Forum:2008 Atlantic hurricane season/October

AoI: Near Hispanola
I haven't really been keeping tabs on all the Cape Verde systems, so I'm not sure if this is part of an earlier AoI. It was in the Central Atlantic just a day or two ago. It could strengthen as it heads through the warm Caribbean waters, but heading into the Gulf seems unlikely due to the cold water, shear, and dry air there. 2007Astro&#39;sHurricane 20:36, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

AoI: East of Bermuda
I know it's under a heavy shear environment, but maybe it will emerge north of the high, then sink southward into warmer waters as the Central Atlantic trough cuts the Bermuda high in half. 2007Astro&#39;sHurricane 14:00, 4 October 2008 (UTC)

AoI: North Central Atlantic
A lot of models seem to be predicting formation. 2007Astro&#39;sHurricane 14:00, 4 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Up as low-risk on NHC. 2007Astro&#39;sHurricane 22:24, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

AoI: Southwest of Cape Verde
It's about to come off the coast, and many major models are predicting formation and have been for the past few days. 2007Astro&#39;sHurricane 14:00, 4 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Anyway, guys, will 2008 repeats 2004/2006/2007 in terms of inactivity in October? Storm&#39;s Eye 21:16, 4 October 2008 (UTC)

97L.INVEST
Now an invest and medium-risk on NHC. Wow, this actually has a shot. This would be pretty far east for this time of the year if it developed. Bob rulz 14:22, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Whoops, wrong AoI, I moved it into the other one. Will probably be pulled up into the gap in the high and into oblivion. 2007Astro&#39;sHurricane 19:58, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Um, no...I'm pretty sure it was at the right system before. NOTE: Actually, on second thought, they might be the same systems if it hadn't even come off the coast yet at this time. Can anyone try to clarify this? I know it was at the right AoI before but they might be the same waves. Bob rulz 05:34, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
 * No, this is a merger of this AoI and the other one NE of French Guinea. The other AoI, formerly east of the Lesser Antillies, is now in the Eastern Caribbean and up as low-risk on NHC. 2007Astro&#39;sHurricane 14:00, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
 * It's up to high risk now from NHC. --Patteroast 12:21, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
 * NRL has it up as TD 14. 2007Astro&#39;sHurricane 20:39, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

Tropical Storm Nana
Now officially a TS, although rapid weakening is predicted similar to Josephine but faster. 2007Astro&#39;sHurricane 20:53, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Considering that forecast, I'm surprised they even named it. I'd say either they were close to not naming it at all, or when the report comes out, it'll have been a depression earlier. --Patteroast 23:43, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Probably the latter, but not much earlier. Nana survived the abortion but her parents are looking for a big, fluffy pillow to shove in her face. If this storm lives another 36 hours, I'll be very impressed. -- SkyFury 03:55, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

AoI: Marco Remnants (near Florida)
There has been a cluster of storms hovering near the coast, drifting north, presumably the higher cloudtops left over from Marco, where as the LLC died the instant it hit land becase of it's size. But these storms sitting here over bath water, I'm worried a new circulation could spin up and hit the US gulf coast, I'm thinking LA-ish. -Winter123 17:08, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm thinking I'm not at all concerned about it. I'm not even sure you'd need an umbrella down there. -- SkyFury 02:49, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

AoI: Upper Level low sitting near Belize
It's the low that helped marco to develop, but now i see outflow on the north side. It's dead stalled so we have time to watch. satellite of both -Winter123 17:08, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

AoI: NE of French Guiana
This developed from the same system that the one NW of CV developed from, but all the models I've been able to check are predicting development. 2007Astro&#39;sHurricane 22:28, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

90L.INVEST
Remember before Nana formed, there were 2 circulation centers? Well, the weaker one apparently still exists, and is firing thunderstorms directly over its center, all the while less than 300 miles south of TD Nana. Go figure. Anyway, NHC says it's going to be absorbed, but I'm not so sure. BAM models predict this thing will head west/southwest, but I'd rather wait for more reliable models before making any assumptions. undefinedundefined 19:27, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Yes, and the other centre had an AoI as well. SWFMD models predicting it to drift into Caribbean. 2007Astro&#39;sHurricane 19:40, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
 * A deep burst of convection has made this system more organised than Nana. 2007Astro&#39;sHurricane 21:23, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

AoI: NE of Colombia
It's a disorganised but convective patch of thunderstorm activity, and some models are predicting development. 2007Astro&#39;sHurricane 22:28, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Over South America now. -- SkyFury 02:46, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

AoI: NW of Morocco
Now, I'll probably get a ton of critisism for listing a subtropical-like and Meditteranean AoI in 30 kt of shear, but it's expected to emerge near the Canaries (ie. Winter's territory), as a low similar to the last one. 2007Astro&#39;sHurricane 22:28, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
 * I don't know what it is, but I know what it isn't and it isn't tropical. It's also over Morocco (hot sand isn't the same as hot water). -- SkyFury 02:44, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

AoI: Eastern Caribbean
No, not the system northest of the Islands, but the one east of it, where the disorganised showers are. Some models predict development. 2007Astro&#39;sHurricane 22:28, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
 * It's drifted way south, and up as low-risk on NHC. 2007Astro&#39;sHurricane 22:58, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

98L.INVEST
NRL's calling this 98L now. --Patteroast 20:35, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
 * NHC now has 98L at medium risk of development. --Patteroast 00:19, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
 * And now up on the NHC's danger graphic. Their language towards something developing is getting stronger. I have a feeling we'll be saying hello to the first Tropical Storm Omar sooner rather than later. --Patteroast 23:45, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Other than possible effects in Puerto Rico and Dominican Republic and Virgin Islands, this is likely to be a fish storm, pulled up into the hurricane graveyard along with Nana although both GFDL and HWRF are predicting a cat. 2. 2007Astro&#39;sHurricane 01:07, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
 * If this thing goes over Hispaniola, it's finished. If it makes it into the Atlantic, the conditions don't look too bad (for October). It might bypass that trough, which will be Nana's dimise and have a little better prognosis. The models essentially either make it a hurricane or don't develop it at all. -- SkyFury 04:03, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
 * NHC has it at high risk now, and they say "THIS SYSTEM HAS THE POTENTIAL TO BECOME A TROPICAL DEPRESSION TOMORROW." --Patteroast 04:17, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
 * "SATELLITE IMAGES AND SURFACE OBSERVATIONS INDICATE THAT A TROPICAL DEPRESSION COULD BE FORMING IN THE EASTERN CARIBBEAN SEA ABOUT 275 MILES SOUTH OF THE EASTERN TIP OF THE DOMINICAN REPUBLIC AND IF THIS TREND CONTINUES...ADVISORIES WILL BE INITIATED LATER TODAY. AN AIR FORCE RESERVE UNIT RECONNAISSANCE AIRCRAFT IS SCHEDULED TO INVESTIGATE THE AREA THIS AFTERNOON." Also, GFDL and HWRF runs seem to be showing a category 3 hurricane in the vicinity of Puerto Rico. --Patteroast 12:15, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
 * NRL's showing something called 15L.FIFTEEN and something called 99L.INVEST... when you click on 15L, you get pictures of 98L. I'm sure this'll be sorted on in the next hour or so, but I have to go do things other than refresh hurricane tracking sites, now. :P --Patteroast 13:49, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

Tropical Depression 15
Okay, so I snuck back to check on it after all. Confirmed by NHC, forecast makes it Omar soon, and a hurricane after it passes Puerto Rico. --Patteroast 14:46, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Predicted to make Hurricane Omar eventually. When it does, we'll get to 15-7-3, meaning that for the first time since 2005, NOAA won't have over-predicted either the numbers of storms, hurricanes or major hurricanes (Nana puts them in the green for number of storms, and Ike took care of majors long ago, but they still have 6 'canes to a predicted 7-10).--Guillaume Hébert-Jodoin 15:50, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Shear's going to be a little steep for a hurricane. We'll see how it pans out. The models may be overdoing it a bit. -- SkyFury 17:01, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Both GFDL and HWRF predicting a cat. 3! This is going to be interesting to watch, but likely to be a fish except for Puerto Rico, eastern Dominican Republic, perhaps Newfoundland, perhaps Europe, and just maybe Bermuda. 2007Astro&#39;sHurricane 18:48, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
 * I don't trust SHIPS, period - it never gets a storm past 100 knots that's not already a 2. Given that, I wouldn't be too surprised if it did become major number four. No hurricane is rather unlikely, giving less bias to the SHIPS - when the GFDL and HWRF consistently point to a major hurricane, it's darn unlikely that the storm will peak at 60 knots (they've hardly ever been that poor). The only example I can think of is last year's Gabby (Fay wouldn't be fair, since that was initially forecasted to stay over the water, where it certainly would have been a hurricane). To top that off, the GFDL and the HWRF have been very good this year - wouldn't make sense to dive off of the deep end all of a sudden. Squarethecircle 20:21, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
 * GFDL predicting a cat. 3 landfall on Dominican rep.! Close to TS now. 2007Astro&#39;sHurricane 01:24, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

Tropical Storm Omar
Oh, hello... We've got Omar. Upgraded at the latest advisory. Oh, and it's showing early signs of Rapid Intensification... Not looking promising at the moment for Puerto Rico - Salak 15:11, 14 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Whoa! It did rapidly intensify! Omar is now almost a hurricane. If the 11 pm forecast advisory shows Omar reaching major hurricane strength, I'd believe it. This is a very healthy storm and all that shear that had existed over the Caribbean has essentially evaporated. Puerto Rico and the Leeward Islands could have serious problem. -- SkyFury 21:43, 14 October 2008 (UTC)


 * NHC is predicting a cat. 2 landfall on the Virgin Islands, and they haven't seen a storm that severe since Lenny of 1999. SHIPS is predicting a cat. 3, while GFDL and HWRF are more conservative. However, given the intensification, NHC says that forecast intensity may have to be adjusted upwards when the 18z models initialize it more strongly, which means a cat. 3 hitting the Leeward Islands is possible, and you'd have a Lenny-like scenario. The Atlantic is waking up again. I'm adjusting my prediction back up to 19 tropical storms, 8 hurricanes, and 4 major hurricanes, and 4 retired names. By the way, methane clathrates are melting! 2007Astro&#39;sHurricane 22:02, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

Hurricane Omar
Official--SpacaB 03:22, 15 October 2008 (UTC)
 * The storm has shrunk significantly since yesterday and the eye isn't very distinct but outflow is still very good so Omar still could become a very scary storm. It has continued to strengthen today. We'll see how much it strengthens. It looks like the Leeward Islands are taking it seriously though. These things are nothing new to them. They should fare all right. It's looking a little less likely that Omar will become a major hurricane. There's a chance, but I don't think it will get that strong. -- SkyFury 18:02, 15 October 2008 (UTC)
 * 8 PM advisory puts Omar at a cat. 2 hurricane, with 105 mph/170 kph/90 kt winds. I wouldn't be surprised if it hit the Virgin Islands as cat. 3 now, rapid strengthening has started. Typical 2008 October? 2007Astro&#39;sHurricane 00:11, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

Major Hurricane Omar
Now a category 3... Centre should pass east of the Virgin Islands in the next few hours, and near the Northern Leewards in the morning. - Salak 03:10, 16 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Well, Omar seems to have shoved my words right down my throat. Not good news for the Leeward Islands. This storm will be passing through those islands at the same intensity as Ivan when it plowed into the Gulf Coast (120 mph as of 1am EDT). This is a very powerful hurricane. Dr. Klotzbach's monthly forecast predicted an active October with four named storms and one major hurricane. That forecast came so very close to being dead on (and still could be since it's only Oct 16). It's downright creepy. The Madden-Julian Oscillation has curiously played a very active role this season. Right now, Anguilla, Antigua and the Virgin Islands (both US and British) stand to get the worst of it. I've been amazed before about the kind of punches they've been able to take. Omar's no Lenny. -- SkyFury 05:44, 16 October 2008 (UTC)
 * The NHC notes, at 5, that the storm may have peaked at 115 knots and this may have been missed by the advisories (similar to Bertha). Right now, Omar is weakening, though extremely heavy thunderstorms are present through the Leeward islands. Omar is no Lenny - but I think, for a different reason: It's moving much faster. Omar is in and out of there as fast as possible. Lenny performed a tiny loop around St. Croix, causing very significant damage to that island. Also, the storm was some 20 knots less powerful, but a 115 knot storm around for 12 hour is more damaging than a 135 knot storm that zips right through (to clarify - it their intensities were switched (given that Omar was a 115 knot storm, which was supported by SFMR, FL winds, and T-Numbers, but of course was only so briefly), Lenny would do more damage, assuming both had hit St. Croix). Squarethecircle 11:23, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

Hurricane Omar (Take 2)
Back down to a Category 1 now... vertical shear and dry air are getting to it. - Salak 15:39, 16 October 2008 (UTC)
 * And did they ever get to it, wow! This storm just collapsed, similar to Opal in 1995 but probably even more so. Omar just fell apart. I think even 75 knots may have been a little generous. -- SkyFury 20:44, 16 October 2008 (UTC)
 * The only thing even close to this is Lili, in fact, it's almost eerie - both went from a 4 to a 1 in what was essentially the same amount of time (a difference of less than three hours, Omar being faster). This storm weakened like a storm hitting land - regardless of how intense the shear is, over-water storms don't lose 40 knots in 7 hours - either they're too strong, or they're too weak (I think the sweet spot would be around 75 - 80 knots starting, and that's a long way from 115 knots). Right now, Omar is naked on visible, and on IR, well, it looks like a complete mess. Just going by the IR, you wouldn't be able to tell the thing was a tropical cyclone - kind of like this year's Ivan, only in a different sort of way (Ivan, at the time, looked like just a loose bundle of clouds, but after that, it happened kind of reverse from Omar). What sucks? It reached it's peak as it was passing through the areas that it would most affect - then weakened immediately after, as if to add insult to injury. Squarethecircle 21:16, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

Tropical Storm Omar (2nd time)
Down to a TS. Storm&#39;s Eye 14:43, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Organising again... - Salak 15:44, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

Hurricane Omar (Take 3)
Now a hurricane again! 2007Astro&#39;sHurricane 20:39, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Will Omar make his mind up? This, that, back to this again... :P - Salak 21:12, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

Tropical Storm Omar
Ok, THIS time he'll probably just slowly fade away. Promise. Squarethecircle 03:03, 18 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Finally, at the 1500 UTC advisory, Omar is now a remnant low devoid of deep convection. True, at 35 knots, it is a very vigorous remnant; however, the satellite images show that the storm is nothing but a few wisps of high altitude clouds. Contrary to what would have seemed to be likely, Omar has died a tropical death - transition is not even in the forecast. It is yet to be known whether Omar has any chance of being retired (though it seems quite unlikely), so goodbye, Omar - if you come back, try to take the not-insane route. (Note: On the subject of being strange, we witnessed a storm go the right way in the Caribbean, turn around, hit the Lesser Antilles after consistent and rapid intensification, then pretty much die - not for no reason, but perhaps for lack of a bad one). Squarethecircle 14:51, 18 October 2008 (UTC)

AoI: East of Texas
A large convective blob has developed, moving west. 2007Astro&#39;sHurricane 17:29, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

99L.INVEST
Move this if this invest has been mentioned earlier, I can't really keep track of them all. :P New invest, just off the coast of Nicaragua. It looks very circular at the moment. Could it end up as Paloma? --Patteroast 14:50, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
 * NHC has 99 at medium risk, on the danger graphic, and released a STDS that says, "CONDITIONS APPEAR FAVORABLE FOR ADDITIONAL DEVELOPMENT... AND THE SYSTEM COULD BECOME A TROPICAL DEPRESSION DURING THE NEXT COUPLE OF DAYS AS IT MOVES SLOWLY NORTH OR NORTHWESTWARD." --Patteroast 15:37, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Uhh, wow, the Atlantic has gotten interesting in a hurry. This thing's a little close to land and may move over Central America before it can do anything, but it looks pretty impressive on the satellite. Where the hell did it come from? -- SkyFury 17:03, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
 * I think it developed from the eastern flank from the earlier AoI near Colombia, while the western flank drifted into EPac and weakened. I won't take credit for this by moving it completely under the previous AoI because that would be vanity. However, I think it will turn west, pass just north of Honduras, pass over the northern part of Yucatan after strengthening to TS, then turn SW under influence of ridge into Campeche where it is still warm. 2007Astro&#39;sHurricane 18:53, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

NHC now have it at high risk, models suggest it could hit Belize and perhaps even be a basin-crosser. - Salak 08:20, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

Tropical Depression Sixteen
Upgraded at the latest advisory and forecast to become TS Paloma in about 24 hours, assuming it stays over water. - Salak 15:14, 14 October 2008 (UTC)


 * That's a big assumption from what I understand. This thing looks like it could go either way. Land, however, appears to be the only inhibiting factor with this one. Recon data seems to indicate the storm is not as organized as originally thought. If the center stays offshore for the next 36-48 hours or so, it will probably reach tropical storm strength. If it comes ashore sooner than that, then chances are it won't get a name. And since the storm center (such as it is) is almost swimming distance from the shore, who knows what's going to happen. But Honduras needs brace themselves for a lot of rain. The Atlantic got interesting in a bleedin' hurry. If that South Carolina storm last month had gotten a name (as it should have), we'd be staring down the barrel of Rene right now. This has been a very active season. If that Carolina storm is upgraded in post-analysis (as it should be), this season would be the fifth most active on record and we still have plenty of time for more. -- SkyFury 21:48, 14 October 2008 (UTC)
 * If its remnants can survive Guatemala, it may re-emerge in the Pacific and re-develop in the Gulf of Tehuantepec, as some models are predicting. 2007Astro&#39;sHurricane 22:08, 14 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Seems the location of the centre isn't as clear cut as was thought. Latest discussion discusses that while the satelite images are being used, the actual centre might be 45mi WNW. That'd put it further out to sea... - Salak 01:20, 15 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Looks like limited opportunity for intensification due to proximity to land. Fairly narrow window of time if this thing wants to become Paloma. Albireo 17:06, 15 October 2008 (UTC)
 * CMC takes it into Florida, while GFDL is depicting a possible re-entry into the Gulf from the Pacific. 2007Astro&#39;sHurricane 20:29, 15 October 2008 (UTC)

Remnant low over Honduras - Salak 03:05, 16 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Gotta love CMC. Damn, this one was close. That ridge built up just enough to shove it into the coast (and then promptly weakened again). Also, I think this one wasn't as well organized as they originally thought. -- SkyFury 05:49, 16 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Got to agree with that last part... Still, 15 consecutive named systems (not counting the end of last season of course) is a pretty long run. Any idea if it's a record? Could have been 16, with that system that hit the Carolinas soon after forming. - Salak 07:00, 16 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Yes - with caveats. 1933, for example, had 21 consecutive systems of TS or greater strength, but they did not name systems at that time.  As a caveat to the caveat, tracking wasn't nearly as good back then as it is now, so it is quite conceivable that there were some depressions breaking up the consecutive storms that simply weren't caught. Albireo 16:29, 16 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Can't count any before the satellite era. In 2005, Tropical Depression Ten breaks a 17 storm stretch in two. If that South Carolina storm back in September is upgraded in post-analysis (as it should be) then 2008's streak would be at 16, a record that would probably be pretty safe. 1969 had 16 "official" duds but probably only a handfull of those were tropical cyclones. 1990 and 1998 were both a perfect 14 for 14. 1995 had two TDs that didn't make it. '96 was a perfect 13 for 13. 2001 was partitioned by two pathetic depressions that were barely TCs, but if 2008 gets the SC storm, 2001 would still fall short. Thus, 2008 appears to hold the record for consecutive named storms as best as we can determine. The only seasons prior to the satellite era that could've exceeded this record are 1933 and 1887. 1916 and 1936 were sufficiantly close that just a few undiscovered storms could challenge the record if they indeed had no duds. -- SkyFury 21:56, 16 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Actually, if the September storm gets upgraded in the post-season analysis, it will technically break the streak into two, as post-season upgrades don't get named :) Albireo 16:15, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

AoI: North of Venezuela
You might be getting tired at all my Cape Verde AoIs, but hey, a lot of them did eventually develop. Most models are developing this once it meets the Caribbean, but it's only expected to be a weak system by then. Nevertheless, it could be worth watching. 2007Astro&#39;sHurricane 22:08, 14 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Hmm. NHC's got it at low risk now, but says slow development is possible. --Patteroast 20:46, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

AoI: SE of Bermuda
The 57th wave of the season, could potentially develop. 2007Astro&#39;sHurricane
 * Up as low-risk on NHC. 2007Astro&#39;sHurricane 20:40, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Up as low-risk on NHC again, and what's really scary is, it's not with this system but my latest calculations show 130 km/h gusts for Southern Ontario Sunday evening. 2007Astro&#39;sHurricane 22:28, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

AoI: East of Cape Cod
All models are predicting something out of this, but it will probably be subtropical, extratropical, or a nor'easter. CMC (obviously) has the most extreme forecast, making it fully tropical (Cyclonephase), then making it landfall onto northeastern Nova Scotia at cat. 3 intensity (or maybe it's just predicted to be an extratropical low with warm seclusion). Most models keep it weaker, probably as a subtropical storm, and curving it out to sea, could be interesting to watch. 2007Astro&#39;sHurricane 22:28, 16 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Are you referring to this? If so i think it should be named right now. -Winter123 20:32, 20 October 2008 (UTC)
 * LOL, it's only an extratropical system now. Anyway, we in Southern Ontario could get some snow tomorrow. Just in time for Halloween! 2007Astro&#39;sHurricane 21:30, 20 October 2008 (UTC)

AoI: South of Bermuda
Up as low-risk on NHC. 2007Astro&#39;sHurricane 21:46, 18 October 2008 (UTC)
 * No idea why NHC declared this. Never had a chance, just a sheared thunderstorm complex, happens almost daily. -Winter123 20:38, 20 October 2008 (UTC)

AoI: Western Caribbean
Up as low-risk on NHC. 2007Astro&#39;sHurricane 21:46, 18 October 2008 (UTC)

91L. INVEST
Now an invest, some models predicting it to head toward Florida, UKM run looks scary for Southern Ontario. 2007Astro&#39;sHurricane 18:52, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Up to medium risk, on the danger graphic. GFDL is still predicting a category 1 landfall in Florida... but most of the other models don't seem to show anything happening. We'll see. --Patteroast 04:54, 20 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Most models are agreeing on it to affect Florida. 2007Astro&#39;sHurricane 21:43, 20 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Unfortunately, 11 people have already been killed by 91L in Honduras. On the contrast, it's snowing in southern Ontario! It has been for the past ten hours, and now it's starting to accumalate. 2007Astro&#39;sHurricane 21:55, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

AoI: East of Honduras
Some intense convection has flared up. 2007Astro&#39;sHurricane 22:41, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Merged. Please pay attention before you post! -Winter123 20:35, 20 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Wait, hahah you posted about the same storm just a day ago, then forgot. That's bad. Do you have memory issues? -Winter123 20:37, 20 October 2008 (UTC)
 * NOO! Please be more careful when you merge my AoIs. This flared up last night, any previous SW Caribbean systems are now in the Pacific. This one is currently east of Honduras, the 91.L is near Belize. I occasionally have poor memory, but not when it comes to AoIs. I remember all my AoIs and geographical names quite well, thank you. It's subsided by now, and looks like it could merge with 91L, but since 91.L is pulling it north, this might be uncertain. We'll see. 2007Astro&#39;sHurricane 21:43, 20 October 2008 (UTC)

AoI: SE of Cape Verde
ANOTHER Cape Verde system! Development for these are decreasing in probability, however. 2007Astro&#39;sHurricane 21:43, 20 October 2008 (UTC)