Forum:2018 Pacific hurricane season

July
It's officially July now by UTC, though we'll leave the above storms up until they dissipate, and by then well put them in the June archive. Ryan1000 00:21, July 1, 2018 (UTC)

GFS with all its fantasy storms doesn't show anything at all in the next 384 hours, which suggests the first half of July will probably be dead. ~ KN2731 {talk} 13:06, July 4, 2018 (UTC)

MATE.

A BLOKE ON TWITTER SAID THE PPM CRASHED AND THE EAST PACIFIC IS ICE-COLD.

SUPER ANNOYED AT THIS RIGHT NOW.

I REALLY WANT AN ACTIVE EAST PACIFIC. TEAM EAST PACIFIC 2018 ALL THE WAY. The West Pacific have god-awful names this year along with the Atlantic. I REALLY WANT LANE TO BE A LONG FISH. WHAT ARE WE GONNA DO NOW, EH? I WILL RAISE THE ROOF IF THIS SEASON UNDERPERFORMS. §ÖñÖ ÇHÌ ñÖ §ÄÐÄMÈ JÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖJÖ 16:51, July 7, 2018 (UTC)
 * The basin is most likely just in a slumber for now, and it'll pick up again by the end of the month. The developing El Nino should prevent another 2010 (which had an active June and then fell asleep for the rest of the season) from recurring. ~  Steve 🌞   Talk Page  My Edits  📧  18:35, July 7, 2018 (UTC)

98E.INVEST
Well this basin isn't sleeping yet. This invest has a 10/20 chance of tropical cyclone formation. -- Roy 25  14:08, July 10, 2018 (UTC)
 * F-king pathetic. 0/10. Pissed off right now. I just want heavy shear and dry air to take over the Atlantic now. §ÖñÖ ÇHÌ ñÖ §ÄÐÄMÈ JÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖJÖ 20:08, July 11, 2018 (UTC)
 * I mean.. I think it's fair to say this season is gonna be another 2010. I've given up. REALLY GIVEN UP. I really can't care about the overrated Atlantic this year because the names are sooo bad this year unlike the Pacific which have the better names... NOTHING FEELS MORE BAD THAN BEING PROMISED AN ACTIVE SEASON AND YOU'RE GETTING THE FXXING OPPOSITE. CAN THE TRADES AND PMM COLLAPSE PISS RIGHT OFF? OR I'LL PLACE AN ENTIRE GIANT HEATER INDER THE EAST PACIFIC REGION. I JUST WANT MY LANE RIGHT NOW. §ÖñÖ ÇHÌ ñÖ §ÄÐÄMÈ JÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖJÖ 20:12, July 11, 2018 (UTC)
 * Fabio dissipated only five days ago. --Dylan (HurricaneMaker99) 21:38, July 11, 2018 (UTC)
 * Mate you're missing the point. Still expecting activity to pick up in late July but it's looking less likely this will be the super hyperactive season some thought last month. The +PMM pattern has degraded, and the EPAC so far is yet to have a single named storm form this month. Overall, I think activity will end up above average for this season due to the weak-moderate El Niño, but without a strong +PDO or +PMM it's not likely to be a record breaking season. §ÖñÖ ÇHÌ ñÖ §ÄÐÄMÈ JÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖJÖ 21:52, July 11, 2018 (UTC)
 * Wow calm down. From what I've heard, the PMM crash was likely caused by early activity last month. This basin will warm up, I'm sure of it. Besides, we aren't even in the peak of the season yet lol. The Atlantic had a dead June and only three named storms whereas this basin had 6 named storms, and so far, a dead July unfortunately for this basin. Anyways, 98E has been upped to 10/10, but chances are, this may not develop, but only time will tell. -- Roy 25  02:03, July 12, 2018 (UTC)
 * Dead.  Send Help Please (talk) 08:57, July 12, 2018 (UTC)
 * Great, only time will tell when we get Gilma or Walaka. Just get on with the Nino already! IDC, just give me either one at any strength then I'll be all set. §ÖñÖ ÇHÌ ñÖ §ÄÐÄMÈ JÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖJÖ 12:22, July 12, 2018 (UTC)

AOI: Over 1500 miles southwest off the southern coast of Mexico
Another disturbance with 10/30. This one maybe has the potential. -- Roy 25  20:57, July 13, 2018 (UTC)
 * 20/40 now.--GentleEarthquake 01:36, July 14, 2018 (UTC)
 * Up on the CPHC outlook. Can this become Walaka? ~ KN2731 {talk} 04:09, July 15, 2018 (UTC)

99E.INVEST
TropicalTidbits has it up as an invest. Should be Walaka if it develops, unless it rapidly organizes by the time it crosses into the CPac early Monday (highly doubt it). ~  Steve 🌞   Talk Page  My Edits  📧  05:07, July 15, 2018 (UTC)


 * NHC has upped 99E to 40/60. I would prefer Walaka to be used instead of Gilma though so I'm hoping 99E moves into the CPac before it gets named. ~ KN2731 {talk} 06:00, July 15, 2018 (UTC)


 * Same. Up to 60/70 now, and it shouldn't be named before reaching the CPac boundary unless we get a surprise. Another (sad) mention in the TWO: "and a tropical depression could form during the next couple of days before upper-level winds increase". This might only be a weak fail if it develops, sigh. ~  Steve 🌞   Talk Page  My Edits  📧  22:38, July 15, 2018 (UTC)

Up to 70/70. Could become Walaka as it moves towards and into the CPac but it won't get too strong if it does and it'll pass south of Hawaii down the road too. Ryan1000 00:54, July 16, 2018 (UTC)
 * 80/80. Might cross into CPac before becoming a depression though. ~ KN2731 {talk} 14:17, July 16, 2018 (UTC)
 * Babes this has already crossed into the CPac. Now only at 70/70. BABES HOW THE HECK ARE WE GONNA GET AN ACTICVE EPAC NOW? WE LITERALLY HAVE A WINDOW OF OPPORTUNITY AND NOW SOME ANTICYCLONE, HUGE AMOUNTS OF WIND SHEAR AND YET ANOTHER SAL OUTBREAK HAPPENED! I'm sorry mate but we're looking at 2013. LITERALLY fed up. WPac sucking out all the activity. Awful mames that side. COME ON!!!! WE NEED TO SEE AT LEAST TWO NAMED STORMS THIA MONTH TO GET BACK ON TRACK!! §ÖñÖ ÇHÌ ñÖ §ÄÐÄMÈ JÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖJÖ 21:19, July 16, 2018 (UTC)
 * Down to 50/50. Unfortunately, this invest will run into high wind shear, but still has an outside shot of becoming the first named CPac storm since 2016. -- Roy 25  02:28, July 17, 2018 (UTC)

Down to 40/40. Starting to doubt whether this would be anything at all. Anonymous 2.0 (talk) 08:58, July 17, 2018 (UTC)


 * Busted, 30/30 (insert facepalm). Also this has apparently been renumbered as 91C, but that won't matter much because it's going to die soon anyway. ~ KN2731 {talk} 14:04, July 17, 2018 (UTC)

10/10. Bye... Anonymous 2.0 (talk) 16:40, July 18, 2018 (UTC)


 * 20/20. Still won't be anything. (Wait, is this another AOI or still 99E/91C? Sorry for being too confused right now, too many EPac AOIs appeared in the past 24-48 hours.) Anonymous 2.0 (talk) 05:39, July 19, 2018 (UTC)


 * Well, Tropical Tidbits has the former invest (91C) still up which was the one that epically busted. It's currently located at 156°W. I'm quite surprised that 91C ended up being an 80% bust before succumbing to wind shear... The new system you're talking about is right near the boundary of 140°W (if you see the CPac outlook). So, the one you described is a different system. I hope I cleared up the confusion. ~  Steve 🌞   Talk Page  My Edits  📧  06:18, July 19, 2018 (UTC)
 * Thank you for clarifying, Steve. Turns out that this invest is already dead. Anonymous 2.0 (talk) 08:36, July 19, 2018 (UTC)

AOI: SW of Mexico
Another one is on the TWO, this is at 10/10 but is also moving into an unfavorable environment down the road. Ryan1000 00:54, July 16, 2018 (UTC)
 * 20/20. What a f-king joke babes. Next. §ÖñÖ ÇHÌ ñÖ §ÄÐÄMÈ JÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖJÖ 21:20, July 16, 2018 (UTC)
 * Mate I will say this one more time. MAKE. SURE. MY. LANE. BECOMES. A. LONGTRACKER. CATEGORY. 4. OR. I. WILL. END. YOU. SAL. SHEAR. §ÖñÖ ÇHÌ ñÖ §ÄÐÄMÈ JÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖJÖ 21:24, July 16, 2018 (UTC)
 * Down to 10/10. ~ KN2731 {talk} 09:51, July 18, 2018 (UTC)

Gone from the TWO, I believe. Anonymous 2.0 (talk) 05:36, July 19, 2018 (UTC)


 * This isn't on the TWO anymore. This system was going to enter unfavorable conditions, and I don't see any mentions of unfavorable conditions on any of the three systems currently on the 5-day outlook. ~  Steve 🌞   Talk Page  My Edits  📧  06:21, July 19, 2018 (UTC)

AOI: SSW of tip of Baja California Peninsula
Here's another one, 0/20 on TWO. Send Help Please (talk) 05:57, July 18, 2018 (UTC)
 * This one will either bust or become a weak TD at most. Models aren't enthusiastic on this at all. ~ KN2731 {talk} 09:56, July 18, 2018 (UTC)

Correct me if I'm wrong but I think this is the one that's now at 0/40. Anonymous 2.0 (talk) 05:36, July 19, 2018 (UTC)


 * I agree, this should be the currently 0/40 one right behind the 30/40 one, considering this is the one that appears most like "SSW" in the header. So many systems. I guess the EPac is waking up again! ~  Steve 🌞   Talk Page  My Edits  📧  06:24, July 19, 2018 (UTC)
 * With the Atlantic going back to sleep and WPac chilling (as nothing is expected to follow Ampil just yet), I think this is EPac's time to catch up. I hope we get Gilma and Hector from both 90E and this one, and also Walaka from the CPac AOI (though that is still 20/20 as of now). Anonymous 2.0 (talk) 08:36, July 19, 2018 (UTC)
 * This has support from the ECWMF but not the GFS. Gonna be interesting to see how this pans out. YE Pacific Hurricane  00:15, July 20, 2018 (UTC)

This is now 10/60 on the TWO. Anonymous 2.0 (talk) 15:53, July 20, 2018 (UTC)
 * This has been dropped by the GFS, ECMWF, and UKMET. These models are really pissing me off with their horrific false alarm rate while above average winds aloft are dominant throughout the basin. YE Pacific Hurricane  20:59, July 21, 2018 (UTC)
 * Agrred 100% Wind shear is sh-t right now and looks like it ain't improving. COME ON GILMA!!!!!!!11 😡😡😡😡😡😡 IF YOU AND HECTOR DON'T FORM BY JULY 31 I AM CALLING FOR SEASON CANCEL!! ALL THE FAVOURABLE IS GOING TO ASIA WITH THOSE AWFUL NAMES!! §ÖñÖ ÇHÌ ñÖ §ÄÐÄMÈ JÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖJÖ 22:39, July 21, 2018 (UTC)
 * Now down fo f-cking 10/50. F-CK OFF SHEAR! §ÖñÖ ÇHÌ ñÖ §ÄÐÄMÈ JÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖJÖ 01:03, July 22, 2018 (UTC)
 * Down to 10/40. It's still possible to get up to Hector by the end of the month if this and the other 0/30 system develop. They still seem to have a chance and I would be mad if both of them busted. But for now,let's chill. ~  Steve 🌞   Talk Page  My Edits  📧  19:08, July 22, 2018 (UTC)
 * This AOI probably has a best bet for a July storm this year, but from what I'm witnessing so far, I don't have high hopes for this month. Sigh.  ~ Roy25     Talk  |  Contributions   21:09, July 22, 2018 (UTC)

Now down to 10/20. Disappointing. Anonymous 2.0 (talk) 01:13, July 25, 2018 (UTC)
 * Still 10/20. We're just waiting for the inevitable to happen here. Anonymous 2.0 (talk) 14:32, July 25, 2018 (UTC)
 * All of the AOIs in the EPAC and CPAC seems likely to fail. Even if one does end up being a tropical cyclone, it may be like the last day of July or early August. Speaking of which, when was the last time the EPAC had a dead July?  ~ Roy25     Talk  |  Contributions   18:41, July 25, 2018 (UTC)

Strange. This became 30/30. Anonymous 2.0 (talk) 09:04, July 26, 2018 (UTC)

92E.INVEST
Also invested like 93C and 91E below. And it's 50/50 now. Oh my, that escalated quickly. Anonymous 2.0 (talk) 12:14, July 26, 2018 (UTC)
 * now at 70/70, though isn't this 92E instead of 92C? Anyways unfavorable conditions expected.  ~ Roy25     Talk  |  Contributions   19:33, July 26, 2018 (UTC)

Tropical Depression Nine-E
Well, as soon as I updated on Eight-E, NHC just declared Nine-E right after that. Expected to move into CPAC. ~ Roy25    Talk  |  Contributions   20:52, July 26, 2018 (UTC) and won't be hecking hector §ÖñÖ ÇHÌ ñÖ §ÄÐÄMÈ JÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖJÖ 21:25, July 26, 2018 (UTC)
 * What the heck, I did not expect any more development from this. A real shocker! Not expected to become a TS though, and I absolutely hope it does not dare steal a name. What's a bit strange is that they keep this as a TD throughout the whole 5-day forecast. ~  Steve 🌞   Talk Page  My Edits  📧  21:38, July 26, 2018 (UTC)
 * Given that advisories were simultaneously initiated on this and TD8E, I wonder how the NHC decided which depression to give which number. --Dylan (HurricaneMaker99) 23:01, July 26, 2018 (UTC)

May have been a mistake on the part of Tropical Tidbits, but I agree that this should have been 92E instead of 92C. Anyway, the NHC forecast says that this will remain as a TD in the coming days, which means that (in the long run) Walaka may be coming from this one, unless this becomes a TS before it crosses the 140°W. Anonymous 2.0 (talk) 01:35, July 27, 2018 (UTC)
 * Hector or Walaka may have to wait longer; 9-E is not forecast not to reach TS status, and is still disorganized until now. Anonymous 2.0 (talk) 09:10, July 27, 2018 (UTC)

Remnants of Nine-E
And it spectacularly flopped. Anonymous 2.0 (talk) 14:49, July 27, 2018 (UTC)
 * But its remnants are still being tracked by the CPac hurricane center, even if it's at 0/0. Anonymous 2.0 (talk) 00:23, July 28, 2018 (UTC)

AOI: SW of Mexico again
And ANOTHER one, 0/30 on TWO. Send Help Please (talk) 05:56, July 18, 2018 (UTC)
 * This one hasn't appeared on the 2-day TWO, but models are more keen on this one becoming Gilma. ~ KN2731 {talk} 09:53, July 18, 2018 (UTC)

If I got it right, I think this is the one that is at 30/40 now. Again, please correct me if I am wrong. Anonymous 2.0 (talk) 05:36, July 19, 2018 (UTC)

90E.INVEST
Should be. BTW, I think this is invested according to Tropical Tidbits. ~  Steve 🌞   Talk Page  My Edits  📧  06:29, July 19, 2018 (UTC)
 * Rooting for this one to become an epic fishspinner. Anonymous 2.0 (talk) 08:36, July 19, 2018 (UTC)
 * Look for the two systems behind it for development. This one isn't happening most likely. YE Pacific Hurricane  00:13, July 20, 2018 (UTC)
 * It's been hours since your comment and turns out you are correct. This won't be anything at all, down to 20/30. Anonymous 2.0 (talk) 15:52, July 20, 2018 (UTC)
 * 10/20, I think? ~ KN2731 {talk} 08:18, July 21, 2018 (UTC)

20/20 but still unlikely to develop. Anonymous 2.0 (talk) 02:07, July 22, 2018 (UTC)
 * This isn't going to develop at all. Down to 10/10 as it crosses into the CPac. Wind shear is too strong in that region. ~  Steve 🌞   Talk Page  My Edits  📧  19:09, July 22, 2018 (UTC)


 * Finally dropped from the CPac TWO. Anonymous 2.0 (talk) 01:11, July 25, 2018 (UTC)

AOI: South of Mexico, SW of Guatemala
New AOI, I guess. 0/20. Anonymous 2.0 (talk) 05:36, July 19, 2018 (UTC)
 * The EPac is starting to EXPLODE. If all these AOIs that are currently on the outlook develop, we could be up to Ileana very soon. ~ <font face="Impact"> Steve 🌞   Talk Page  My Edits  📧  06:31, July 19, 2018 (UTC)
 * EPac is on drugs confirmed. Looks like that El Niño might be kicking in. Send Help Please  (talk) 07:56, July 19, 2018 (UTC)

0/40 now. Anonymous 2.0 (talk) 15:54, July 20, 2018 (UTC)
 * Seriously these systems are taking SO SLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW to develop. Looks like we gonna have to wait until the middle of August to see Gilma as the wind shear is TOO BAAAAAAAAAAAD. §ÖñÖ ÇHÌ ñÖ §ÄÐÄMÈ JÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖJÖ 23:25, July 21, 2018 (UTC)
 * Down to 0/30. I really hope they don't bust, or else the EPac will become more of a disappointment this year. 😑 ~ <font face="Impact"> Steve 🌞   Talk Page  My Edits  📧  19:12, July 22, 2018 (UTC)
 * This AOI still has a slight chance before the end of the month, but July is already a disgrace for this basin compared to June.  ~ Roy25     Talk  |  Contributions   21:08, July 22, 2018 (UTC)

10/30 now. Anonymous 2.0 (talk) 01:14, July 25, 2018 (UTC)
 * 20/40. Chances are still slim, but who knows... Anonymous 2.0 (talk) 14:31, July 25, 2018 (UTC)
 * 30/50. Steadily increasing, huh? Anonymous 2.0 (talk) 22:20, July 25, 2018 (UTC)
 * 40/60, Gilma is coming. --GentleEarthquake 01:10, July 25, 2018 (UTC)
 * Based on what? Given how models are preforming, I would not be confident. YE <font color="#66666">Pacific  <font color="#66666">Hurricane  03:28, July 26, 2018 (UTC)

91E.INVEST
50/60 now, and finally invested. Does this mean that EPac is finally waking up? May not become Gilma though. Anonymous 2.0 (talk) 12:14, July 26, 2018 (UTC)
 * 70/80 now, and according to TT, this has become PTC 08E, though not confirmed by the NHC yet.  ~ Roy25     Talk  |  Contributions   19:30, July 26, 2018 (UTC)

AYYYYYYYYYYYY WE GOT GILMAHHHHHHHHHHH §ÖñÖ ÇHÌ ñÖ §ÄÐÄMÈ JÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖJÖ 21:23, July 26, 2018 (UTC)

Tropical Depression Eight-E
"...TROPICAL DEPRESSION FORMS IN THE EASTERN NORTH PACIFIC... ...NO THREAT TO LAND..." Alas, a July EPac cyclone! However, expected to peak at 50 mph.  ~ Roy25     Talk  |  Contributions   20:47, July 26, 2018 (UTC)
 * I hope it can get stronger than that since NHC forecasts for the EPac are often conservative. At least it appears that we're getting Gilma before the end of July! ~ <font face="Impact"> Steve 🌞   Talk Page  My Edits  📧  21:40, July 26, 2018 (UTC)
 * Not likely to be much more than 35 knots. It's becoming less organized as we speak. YE <font color="#66666">Pacific  <font color="#66666">Hurricane  22:53, July 26, 2018 (UTC)

At least it formed. It would be a delight if this eventually becomes Gilma, given the lack of activity this month. Anonymous 2.0 (talk) 01:41, July 27, 2018 (UTC)
 * Seeing signs of deepening actually - this is just really shallow and prone to fall apart pending time of day. YE <font color="#66666">Pacific  <font color="#66666">Hurricane  04:09, July 27, 2018 (UTC)

Tropical Storm Gilma
Finally. 35 kts (40 mph), 1006 mb. Anonymous 2.0 (talk) 09:06, July 27, 2018 (UTC)
 * Hm, doesn't look like it will become much from here on out. T  G  2 0 1 8 10:55, July 27, 2018 (UTC)

Yeah, Gilma will probably die soon. Didn't expect this to form in all seriousness, nor 9-E (which is dead now), but Gilma won't last much longer with most of her convection removed from her center by now. Ryan1000 18:14, July 27, 2018 (UTC)

Tropical Depression Gilma
Already down to a tropical depression. What a weak failure of a storm. Something seems wrong with the EPAC this year. Regardless, Gilma isn't expected to last much longer. - Vile

Yep, that didn’t last long at all. Expected to be gone by Monday. Also, on The Weather Channel, referring to Gilma’s future track, Dr. Knabb said “That’s about the stubbiest, saddest looking cone I’ve ever seen.” That made me laugh. :P Leeboy100 Hello!! 00:02, July 28, 2018 (UTC)
 * Though the NHC sees Gilma to last for another 24-36 hours, I personally don't see Gilma lasting longer than 12 hours from now. A name stealer, but hey, at least it gave EPac a lease of life. Anonymous 2.0 (talk) 00:20, July 28, 2018 (UTC)
 * Boo Failma, boo. You are officially this season's biggest loser, because at least Nine-E didn't steal a name. Please become something more next time. Send Help Please  (talk) 01:53, July 28, 2018 (UTC)
 * Ladies and gentlemen, may I present to you the opening to the anime: Tropical Storm Gilma! Anyway... FYI, Gilma was 1006, Felicia was 1004, Jova was 1003. Who knows if Gilma might be downgraded to a depression? "Tropical Depression Gilma"... sounds legit.  §ÖñÖ ÇHÌ ñÖ §ÄÐÄMÈ JÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖJÖ 12:00, July 28, 2018 (UTC)
 * No wait... I've just found the remastered version. After formetti, rest in spaghetti, never forgetti. Rip in kill Gilma. Cause of death: 2sexy4felicia, overdosed on ur m80 Snoop's wind shear, the kewler alternative to weed -adjusts hipster glasses-... La da da da dah, it's the motherf-ckin' G-I-L-M-A (Gilma!) Hope you ready for the next episode (Hector), hey ey, smoke shear everyday!  §ÖñÖ ÇHÌ ñÖ §ÄÐÄMÈ JÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖJÖ 12:20, July 28, 2018 (UTC)

Gilma looks like a bird on the NHC's latest 2-day graphic. --Dylan (HurricaneMaker99) 12:50, July 29, 2018 (UTC)
 * more like a dead bird fam (also enjoy ur radiohead concert.) rip in kill gilma 3sexy5felicia §ÖñÖ ÇHÌ ñÖ §ÄÐÄMÈ JÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖJÖ 13:18, July 29, 2018 (UTC)
 * Lol thanks Liz, they're my favorite band and Saturday night's show was one of the best I've ever been to. Setlist is here if anyone's interested. --Dylan (HurricaneMaker99) 23:23, July 31, 2018 (UTC)

Remnants of Gilma
At least Gilma persisted for a few days before it succumbed to shear. Finally gone though. Anonymous 2.0 (talk) 02:24, July 30, 2018 (UTC)
 * rip in kill 3sexy5felicia §ÖñÖ ÇHÌ ñÖ §ÄÐÄMÈ JÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖJÖ 11:26, July 30, 2018 (UTC)

AOI: Near 140°W
New one on the CPac outlook located very close to the boundary. They have it at 20/20, but kind of contrary to their percentages, they say conditions are expected to allow a TD to form in the next few days. ~ <font face="Impact"> Steve 🌞   Talk Page  My Edits  📧  06:33, July 19, 2018 (UTC)
 * Hmmm, this seems to become interesting in the long run. Would love to see this cross into the WPac later on. Anonymous 2.0 (talk) 08:36, July 19, 2018 (UTC)

A day has passed and this thing is still 20/20. Won't be anything, I guess. Anonymous 2.0 (talk) 15:55, July 20, 2018 (UTC)


 * 0/10 and will be off the TWO later on. Anonymous 2.0 (talk) 02:06, July 22, 2018 (UTC)

Well well well... I am absolutely fed up with the massive outbreak of wind shear affecting the entire basin. Even the Kelvin Wave over the Pacific isn't working efficiently. Frankly speaking, I am fed up of the WPac sucking away all the activity. I am desperate for Lane to be a major fishspinner, then I will be happy (I will tell you the real reason why I want Lane to be a major but not on here). The names for the West Pacific are you know what? Bloody awful.


 * At this stage, I will consider this season cancelled unless the following criteria is satisfied:
 * 1) Gilma has until 31st July 2018 to form.
 * 2) Gilma can peak to at least a Category 1 hurricane.
 * 3) August must catch up rapidly and produce at least 3 fish storms peaking as major hurricanes.

I cannot be arsed tracking next year's EPac season. The names for next year are atrocious compared to the Atlantic.

§ÖñÖ ÇHÌ ñÖ §ÄÐÄMÈ JÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖJÖ 14:06, July 22, 2018 (UTC)


 * Like the system behind it, this is 10/10 and won't develop due to strong upper-level winds. And I think you're asking a bit too much out of the EPac. Hopefully it does explode in August, but 3 major hurricanes in August alone looks somewhat unlikely with the way the EPac is acting right now. ~ <font face="Impact"> Steve 🌞   Talk Page  My Edits  📧  19:15, July 22, 2018 (UTC)


 * GFS is showing two systems developing in early august, so, what do you think? -- GentleEarthquake 19:23, July 22, 2018 (UTC)
 * Well I do not trust the models anynore given how poorly they are performing right now but if the EPac doesn't follow the criteria I set above then we might be in for a below average season. It really needs to catch up. I am pissed off. §ÖñÖ ÇHÌ ñÖ §ÄÐÄMÈ JÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖJÖ 20:01, July 22, 2018 (UTC)
 * Yeah, the models are usually crazy with predicting storm tracks and intensity. Anyways, I don't think this AOI will last. Perhaps the only hope for this month is the AOI with 10/40, and maybe the 0/30 AOI. If those fail, then this month maybe dead, and I hope August is better than this month. This basin just went from full activity mode to dead in a matter of one month. So much of my prediction we would reach the end of the list (don't ask why 😛)  ~ Roy25     Talk  |  Contributions   21:06, July 22, 2018 (UTC)
 * Not possible to form now. GFS is unreliable as it often "wishcasts" the storms. We are likely to see a 2010-like season due to how the season suddenly died and none of the invests are likely to form. Cane Harvey   (Talk |  Contributions)  05:37, July 23, 2018 (UTC)

F-cking ditto that. West Pacific and its awful names can take everything. §ÖñÖ ÇHÌ ñÖ §ÄÐÄMÈ JÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖJÖ 11:53, July 23, 2018 (UTC) FOR F-CK'S SAKE, MOVE ALL THE ACTIVITY TO THE EPAC! I. DO. NOT. CARE. ABOUT. THE. WPAC. WITH. THEIR. AWFUL. STORM. NAMES. HURRY UP OR WE WILL SEE A 2010! §ÖñÖ ÇHÌ ñÖ §ÄÐÄMÈ JÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖJÖ 11:58, July 23, 2018 (UTC)

EVERYTHING IS GOING TO THE WPAC NOW. F-cking hell. I wish I can put a giant heater under the EPac portion of the Pacific and suck out all the wind shear from the basin along with cooling the WPac. Seriously WTF is an "Ampil" or "SonTinh"???!? Should have stuck with the names lists since the 1990s (good times, would rather live then than now). '''If Lane is anything weaker than a major hurricane I will quit this place and storm tracking for good. I put money on betting that Lane would be a strong and intense storm and I cannot afford to lose it. ''' §ÖñÖ ÇHÌ ñÖ §ÄÐÄMÈ JÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖJÖ 12:04, July 23, 2018 (UTC)


 * MJO should be moving from WPac to EPac in a week or two, maybe activity will pick up then. ~ KN2731 {talk} 14:39, July 23, 2018 (UTC)
 * I will believe it when I see it mate. I still cannot afford to lose my money though. Not just a few quid mate. Was out that night with mates at uni and I legit betted that Lane was gonna be a major hurricane. Anyway still most don't know what a "SonhTinh" or "Ampil" is anyway. What do you predict in the EPac in August? §ÖñÖ ÇHÌ ñÖ §ÄÐÄMÈ JÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖJÖ 14:52, July 23, 2018 (UTC)
 * I think activity will go through the roof starting mid-August. Even with this July hiatus I'm confident the EPac will wake up once again this year, with the incoming El Nino likely to produce a late-season show. ~ KN2731 {talk} 14:35, July 24, 2018 (UTC)
 * MJO is going to be entering the dead circle soon from the EPAC so its statistically unusual for the WPAC to be so busy. However, there is no development in the EPAC right now because it is plagued with strong westerlies; this pattern will likely reverse in early August and lead to somewhat of a spike in activity. YE <font color="#66666">Pacific <font color="#66666">Hurricane  20:33, July 24, 2018 (UTC)

Surprisingly this is still in the CPac TWO. Not for long though, I think. Anonymous 2.0 (talk) 01:12, July 25, 2018 (UTC)

93C.INVEST
Invested according to Tropical Tidbits. Still 10/10. Anonymous 2.0 (talk) 12:14, July 26, 2018 (UTC)
 * It's been 10/10 for days now. I wonder why they keep it up on the TWO when it's not going to do jack sh!t. Unless it somehow pulls a Jose '11 or Emily '17, but I highly doubt it. ~ <font face="Impact"> Steve 🌞   Talk Page  My Edits  📧  21:43, July 26, 2018 (UTC)

0/0 now, yet it's still on the CPac TWO and the Tropical Tidbits site. Weird... Anonymous 2.0 (talk) 01:43, July 27, 2018 (UTC)
 * Finally gone. Anonymous 2.0 (talk) 00:21, July 28, 2018 (UTC)

AOI: SW of Mexico III
Another AOI appears. 0/20. Anonymous 2.0 (talk) 00:21, July 28, 2018 (UTC)
 * Now he 10/30. Check dem runs bruh bc de ting poppin' §ÖñÖ ÇHÌ ñÖ §ÄÐÄMÈ JÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖJÖ 12:02, July 28, 2018 (UTC)

So far so good... §ÖñÖ ÇHÌ ñÖ §ÄÐÄMÈ JÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖJÖ 13:27, July 28, 2018 (UTC)
 * Aletta: "haha look at me i believe i can fly i believe i can touch the sky no motherf-cker can match me ahahahaha"
 * Bud: "haha i'm gonna beat you! all years before 2006 sucked! now i'm finally a cat 4! i made landfall unlike that dutch twit aletta who is a coward!"
 * Carlotta: "mummy i wanna go to mexico like patwicia"
 * Daniel: "zzzzzz... damn... zzzzzzz"
 * Emilia: "all 1994 cat 5s for sh-t tropical storms in 2018"
 * Fabio: "i am trying to eat more to be a category 5 but i'm not gaining any weight"
 * Gilma: "SMOKE SHEAR EVERYDAY!"
 * Hector (my prediction):  "halp   pws "
 * Ileana (my prediction): "hahaha mexico get drenched while i flirt with your coastline"
 * John/Kristy/Lane (my prediction): "WHERE IS YOUR GOD NOW? WHAT ARE WE DOING? WHY ARE WE THREE GETTING FATTER? WHY ARE WE SEEING HULA DANCERS?"-lane overdoses on roids at the same time john takes xans and kristy takes ket-
 * Miriam (my prediction): "zzz"
 * well now de ting at 20/40 get in §ÖñÖ ÇHÌ ñÖ §ÄÐÄMÈ JÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖJÖ 01:12, July 29, 2018 (UTC)
 * DE TING GO BOOM AT 30/50 MAN GUN FORM BEFORE JULY ENDS §ÖñÖ ÇHÌ ñÖ §ÄÐÄMÈ JÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖJÖ 13:15, July 29, 2018 (UTC)
 * any1 ceen de gfs runs? whoever is runnin it is on crak cocaine bcuz dei dink hector wll reach c8gorii 5... fabio any1? POWAH TO HEKTUR!!!!!!! :DDDD §ÖñÖ ÇHÌ ñÖ §ÄÐÄMÈ JÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖJÖ 13:25, July 29, 2018 (UTC)

Back to 20/40 again. Anonymous 2.0 (talk) 02:22, July 30, 2018 (UTC)

93E.INVEST
Has been invested a few days ago (according to Tropical Tidbits), and has been designated as 93E. 50/60. Anonymous 2.0 (talk) 00:04, July 31, 2018 (UTC)
 * JTWC has issued a TCFA (although unofficial). 60/70. Anonymous 2.0 (talk) 06:56, July 31, 2018 (UTC)
 * If this becomes Hector it's going to be weak, unfortunately. ~ KN2731 {talk} 13:55, July 31, 2018 (UTC)
 * HOW??? DIDN'T THEY BLOW HIM UP INTO A CAT 5?!?! §ÖñÖ ÇHÌ ñÖ §ÄÐÄMÈ JÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖJÖ 14:55, July 31, 2018 (UTC)
 * Maybe the wind shear is at it again. Or the cold waters of the EPac intervened. But whatever. I just hope we'll get to at least Lane or Miriam before August ends. Anonymous 2.0 (talk) 16:45, July 31, 2018 (UTC)
 * lane better be a roidy storm bruh §ÖñÖ ÇHÌ ñÖ §ÄÐÄMÈ JÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖJÖ 17:47, July 31, 2018 (UTC)
 * and now de ting at 80/80 now get dem jerky chicken n chow mein down ur belly gyal (i meant boi) and you will grow up poppin. yass queen. §ÖñÖ ÇHÌ ñÖ §ÄÐÄMÈ JÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖJÖ 17:57, July 31, 2018 (UTC)

Tropical Depression Ten-E
35 mph/1007 mb, becomes a hurricane at the very end of the current cone. Future Hector, you had better not let me down. Send Help Please (talk) 20:49, July 31, 2018 (UTC)
 * Well, at least I'm glad that a storm is finally predicted to become a hurricane, but whether it does or doesn't, all of that will happen in August unfortunately. This July is probably one of the least active July in the EPAC since, well I'm not sure.  ~ Roy25     Talk  |  Contributions   21:01, July 31, 2018 (UTC)
 * July 2010 was even less active. Anyways, I'm excited to see that this could become a hurricane in 5 days. Hopefully it does become a hurricane because it would be frustrating to see it underperform, especially due to the inactive July. Don't let me down upcoming-Hector! ~ <font face="Impact"> Steve 🌞   Talk Page  My Edits  📧  02:25, August 1, 2018 (UTC)

Tropical Storm Hector
Now a TS with 40/1006. Still expected to be a hurricane in the long run. ~ Roy25    Talk  |  Contributions   03:09, August 1, 2018 (UTC)

AOI: South of Mexico
Another AOI at the south of Mexico appears. 0/30 as of now. Anonymous 2.0 (talk) 02:22, July 30, 2018 (UTC)
 * DE TING BE BLOWIN UP MAN §ÖñÖ ÇHÌ ñÖ §ÄÐÄMÈ JÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖJÖ 11:24, July 30, 2018 (UTC)
 * This one probably won't do too much. Models are more interested in blowing up a possible system after this into a powerful hurricane. ~ KN2731 {talk} 13:56, July 31, 2018 (UTC)
 * in what way won't ileana do anything and john be poppin dem hurricane pills brah? §ÖñÖ ÇHÌ ñÖ §ÄÐÄMÈ JÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖJÖ 14:56, July 31, 2018 (UTC)
 * SO WAIT JOHN BE POPPIN PILLS TO BECOME A CAT 5? AND THE OTHER STORM IN THE MODEL RUN IS KRISTY?? If shear is gonna relax in august according to models then 420% likely that lane be on roids §ÖñÖ ÇHÌ ñÖ §ÄÐÄMÈ JÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖJÖ 15:00, July 31, 2018 (UTC)
 * Up to 0/40, and I feel this could be Ileana, but not sure how strong it'll get. However, "John" sounds like a strong name, and it would be exciting to see the system after this become "John" and intensify to as much as a C5 (as long as it remains out to sea). ~ <font face="Impact"> Steve 🌞   Talk Page  My Edits  📧  02:29, August 1, 2018 (UTC)

Retirements at a Glance
Seven storms have formed and we might as well add this section now. Anonymous 2.0 (talk) 17:16, July 31, 2018 (UTC)

A2.0's EastPac retirement expectations

 * Aletta - 4% - Shown us how to start a season. 4% because it peaked as a C4.
 * Bud - 4% - Also 4% because of its Category 4 status. Great follow-up to Aletta, but juat like Bud's predecessor, it caused no harm to land, so that won't merit any realistic chance of retirement for either Aletta or Bud.
 * Carlotta - 5% + Affected Mexico and caused some problems, but no fatalities were recorded so I think Carlotta will be back in 2024.
 * Daniel - 0% - Danfail it is, as Send Help Please called it. Broke the streak of strong hurricanes that bore the same name. Yikes.
 * Emilia - 0% - Another forgettable storm.
 * Fabio - 2% - For peaking as a Category 2. Forecast to become a major, yet Fabio bottled it a la Hilary 2017.
 * Gilma - 0% - Just like what Send Help Please also said, Failma. The Failicia of this season along with Danfail, so far.

That's it.

Originally posted by: Anonymous 2.0 (talk) 17:16, July 31, 2018 (UTC).

Rara's OAP home preddies
§ÖñÖ ÇHÌ ñÖ §ÄÐÄMÈ JÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖJÖ 17:48, July 31, 2018 (UTC)
 * Aletta (0%): "haha look at me i believe i can fly i believe i can touch the sky no motherf-cker can match me ahahahaha"
 * Bud (0%): "haha i'm gonna beat you! all years before 2006 sucked! now i'm finally a cat 4! i made landfall unlike that dutch twit aletta who is a coward!"
 * Carlotta (0%): "mummy i wanna go to mexico like patwicia"
 * Daniel (0%): "zzzzzz... damn... zzzzzzz"
 * Emilia (0%): "all 1994 cat 5s for sh-t tropical storms in 2018"
 * Fabio (0%): "i am trying to eat more to be a category 5 but i'm not gaining any weight"
 * Gilma (0%): "SMOKE SHEAR EVERYDAY!" rip in kill 3sexy5felicia 2018-2018 never 5get

Dylan's predictions
--Dylan (HurricaneMaker99) 23:20, July 31, 2018 (UTC)
 * Aletta: 0% - A beautiful, intense, harmless kick-off to the season.
 * Bud: 1% - Another gorgeous storm to observe over open water, with fortunately minimal effects on land.
 * Carlotta: 2% - Was more of a nuisance for Mexico than expected.
 * Daniel: no
 * Emilia: 0% - Not an epic fail, not much of a winner either. It sort of just existed.
 * Fabio: 0% - 🎶leeeet doooown aaaaand haaaaanging aroooouuund🎵
 * Gilma: 0% - Worse flop than Daniel in terms of intensity but at least it was resilient in its post-TS depression stage.

Roy's Retirement Prediction
Intensity colors: <font color="#5ebaff">TD, <font color="#00faf4">TS , <font color="#ffffcc">C1 , <font color="#ffe775">C2 , <font color="#ffc140">C3 , C4 , <font color="#ff6060">C5 

Retirement percentages colors: 0%, 0.001-9% , 10-19% , 20-29% , 30-39% , <font color="#cf0">40-49% , 50% , <font color="#fe0">51-59% , <font color="#fc0">60-69% , 70-79% , <font color="#f70">80-89% , 90-99% , <font color="#500">100% , ???


 * <font color="#ff8f20">Aletta ( 0% ) - A nice harmless fishspinner. Obviously this won't be going.
 * <font color="#ff8f20">Bud ( 0.001% ) - While it did affected land at the end of its life, this was also pretty much a fishspinner
 * <font color="#00faf4">Carlotta ( 1% ) - While weak, it has came close to Mexico, but no deaths and damage were reported.
 * <font color="#00faf4">Daniel ( 0% ) - A weak failicia that untimately was a name stealer. Unimpressed
 * <font color="#00faf4">Emilia ( 0% ) - A rather weak, but a nice fishspinner
 * <font color="#ffe775">Fabio ( 0% ) - Nice fishspinning hurricane that broke the TS streak, but failed to reach major hurricane status. Sigh
 * <font color="#00faf4">Gilma ( 0% ) - Same as Daniel, except weaker, and only lasted 6 hours as a TS. Name-stealer.
 * <font color="#00faf4">Hector (???) - Currently active

NOTE:
 * 1) Should I give a tropical cyclone name a retirement chance of 50% and above, then that tropical cyclone name will be all caps.
 * 2) The triple question marks on my retirement percentage scale is only used as placeholders on an active storm.
 * 3) Storms that exits a basin and enters another basin would not have their own retirement predictions in that basin it entered, instead will have it in the basin of origin.

~ Roy25    Talk  |  Contributions   02:36, August 1, 2018 (UTC)

Steve's predictions and grades
See "notes" (at the very bottom) for explanations of some stuff.

Intensity colors: <font color="#5ebaff">TD, <font color="#00faf4">TS , <font color="#ffffcc">C1 , <font color="#ffe775">C2 , <font color="#ffc140">C3 , <font color="#ff8f20">C4 , <font color="#ff6060">C5 , <font color="#905">200+ mph

Retirement percentage colors: 0% or N/A, <font color="#77A">0.001-0.4% , <font color="#44C">0.5-0.9% , 1-4% , <font color="#05F">5%-9% , <font color="#0AF">10-14% , <font color="#0FF">15-19% , <font color="#0F8">20-24% , <font color="#0F0">25-29% , <font color="#3F0">30-34% , <font color="#6F0">35-39% , <font color="#9F0">40-44% , <font color="#CF0">45-49% , 50% , <font color="#FC0">51-54% , <font color="#F90">55-59% , <font color="#F60">60-64% , <font color="#F30">65-69% , <font color="#F00">70-74% , <font color="#D01">75-79% , <font color="#B02">80-84% , <font color="#903">85-89% , <font color="#604">90-94% , <font color="#505">95-98% , <font color="#303">99-99.999% , <font color="#000">100% or TBA

Grading colors: <font color="#033">EO+, <font color="#055">EO , <font color="#077">A++ , <font color="#096">A+ , <font color="#0C3">A , <font color="#0F0">A- , <font color="#3F0">B+ , <font color="#6F0">B , <font color="#9F0">B- , <font color="#CF0">C+ , <font color="#FF0">C , <font color="#FC0">C- , <font color="#F90">D+ , <font color="#F60">D , <font color="#F30">D- , <font color="#F00">E , <font color="#C00">F , <font color="#900">F- , <font color="#600">Z , <font color="#300">Z- , <font color="#000">TBA


 * <font color="#5ebaff">One-E :
 * Retirement: N/A - No name, no retirement.
 * Grading: <font color="#C00">F - Gets credit for its formation before the start of the season. Still a fail, nonetheless.


 * <font color="#ff8f20">Aletta :
 * Retirement: 0% - Complete fishspinner.
 * Grading: <font color="#0C3">A - A nice early season powerful hurricane. As a bonus, no one was affected at all.


 * <font color="#ff8f20">Bud :
 * Retirement: 1% - Struck Baja, but without doing much harm. Caused a moisture plume to reach the southwestern U.S., and that wasn't harmful either. Impacts are too light for retirement.
 * Grading: <font color="#0F0">A- - Another nicely strong hurricane that reached the bare minimum for C4. Impacts are not enough to affect the grade.


 * <font color="#00faf4">Carlotta :
 * Retirement: 2% - Caused torrential rainfall in the area of Mexico that it affected. Impacts are not enough to even think about retirement, though.
 * Grading: <font color="#F60">D - Strong tropical storm that affected land. At least it was not a total failure like the below storm was.


 * <font color="#00faf4">Daniel :
 * Retirement: 0% - Out to sea, no one was affected.
 * Grading: <font color="#600">Z - Laughable failure that only lasted 2 days and peaked at no more than 45 mph/1003 mbar. Danfail will be remembered as a complete nothingburger. 😂


 * <font color="#00faf4">Emilia :
 * Retirement: 0% - Another fishspinner.
 * Grading: <font color="#F00">E - That very active June was a bit more about quantity than quality. Reached 60 mph, but I don't care for this boring storm.


 * <font color="#ffe775">Fabio :
 * Retirement: 0% - Yet another out-to-sea system.
 * Grading: <font color="#FC0">C- - A strong C2 usually doesn't get this low of a grade. But the story is that Fabio's grade really suffered because it was expected to become a major hurricane, but flunked the mark by just 5 mph! In fact, it had potential to RI to reach C4 or possibly even C5. A major disappointment you were, Fabio.


 * <font color="#00faf4">Gilma :
 * Retirement: 0% - Also out to sea.
 * Grading: <font color="#600">Z - Even worse than Danfail, and was a TS for only 6 measly hours. Gilfail was one of the worst, and most laughable, name-stealers ever! It did last a few days in total, which is the only thing that prevents it from being Z-.


 * <font color="#5ebaff">Nine-E
 * Retirement: N/A - Cannot be retired.
 * Grading: <font color="#600">Z - It had potential to last even longer than it did. At least it didn't steal a name. Still a pathetic failure though.


 * <font color="#00faf4">Hector :
 * Retirement: <font color="#000">TBA - Currently active. Retirement chance will be released once it dissipates.
 * Grading: <font color="#000">TBA - Currently active. Grade will be released once it dissipates.

Notes: Intensity colors -
 * Based off of the SSHWS, except for the 200+ mph color.
 * I still use "TD" due to the inclusion of grading (they cannot be retired). So it would be wrong for TD to be considered redundant in this case because TDs are still included for grading only.
 * I wanted to give special recognition for cyclones reaching insane intensities by introducing a new color for those that reach the "200 Club." Of course, very few storms will ever receive this color.

Retirement percentage colors -
 * "N/A", which is gray like 0%, is most often used for tropical depressions, which are usually not named and thus cannot have a name retired. Other unnamed storms receive "N/A" as well.
 * "TBA", which is black like 100%, is used for currently active storms or recently dissipated storms without a definite percentage of retirement yet. "TBA" is also used for grading when a system is currently active.
 * 0% and 100% are estimated percentages, in which they don't necessarily mean that it is absolutely certain that a storm name will or won't be retired. Unless it is the PAGASA basin (which has retirement requirements), there will always still be an infinitesimally small chance of retirement (for 0%) or non-retirement (for 100%).
 * New for 2018: My scale comes in ranges now instead of individual percentages. This allows me to use any percentage now instead of having to restrict myself to individual percentages. Any percentage within a range (like from 1-4%) uses the same color (in this example, blue). The range also includes decimals and goes slightly beyond what is shown as the "highest" number in my scale. The actual highest limit to the range earlier described is 4.99999...% (I don't round up to the next range). Those upper limit decimals are not included in my scale in order to preserve space.
 * Different fonts indicate how likely a storm is to be retired. The whole entry of the storm is bolded, italicized, underlined, or capitalized depending on my retirement prediction. For low or nil-chance storms (0% to 24%), only the colored components (storm's name, percentage, and grade) are bolded and the rest of the entry is plain-text. For 25% to 49%, the whole entry is bolded. For 50% to 74%, the whole entry is both bolded and italicized. For 75% to 99.999%, the whole entry is bolded, italicized, and underlined. 100% entries are bolded, italicized, underlined, and capitalized.

Grading colors -
 * EO = "Extraordinarily Outstanding". This is beyond "A", when a TC is so good that it deserves special recognition. Add a "+" to emphasize the best and most outstanding TCs that have ever occurred in history (such as Patricia '15 or John '94). I try to avoid giving this rating to catastrophic storms due to the fact that catastrophe knocks down a storm's reputation, and it would seem insensitive to give such storms a high rating. An EO+ storm has requirements that are stricter than EO: it has to be a fishspinner (or, if affecting land, not cause very significant damage or deaths, which means no Haiyan, Wilma, Irma, etc.) and it has to be very near records (I'd say top 3), tie, or break records relating to powerful intensity, longevity, or how unusual it is. If the achievement is one of the latter two, an EO+ storm has to peak as a major (C3+ on the SSHWS). An exception to the major rule could occur if a storm is INSANELY long-lived or unusual. For example: a tropical system that literally forms in the Arctic Ocean/right on the equator/Antarctic/far inland/other extremely strange spots, or a storm that lasts months would almost always be deserving of "EO+".
 * Z = If the grading scale were to go down the same pattern as A to F, it would go to G, H, etc. and would eventually have to stop at "Z". All the in between letters from G to Y are skipped because it would be way too much, redundant and unnecessary. "Z" is the letter assigned to the worst of the worst, and such storms would be considered epic failures and unmemorable because of a lack of land effects. If I gave a highly impacting storm a Z, it might seem insensitive because the storm actually did something. Add a "-" to the grade to emphasize the worst epic failures that ever occurred in history. Specific requirements for the Z- storm are as follows: Fishspinner (or barely affecting land) due to lack of memorability, peaks at no more than 40 mph, lasts no longer than one day, or is downgraded from a TS to a TD or worse in post-analysis while still named. Although weak named TSs receive Z- on occasion, even fishspinning TDs don't receive the Z- grade that often because, in my opinion, stealing a precious name is a worse offense than remaining unnamed. If a system is named, more should be expected out of it.
 * Except for the extreme grades and "E", this scale is obviously based off of the educational grading system.

~ <font face="Impact"> Steve 🌞   Talk Page  My Edits  📧  04:06, August 1, 2018 (UTC) (last updated 04:06, August 1, 2018 (UTC))

Post-Season Changes
Already we have our first TCR, its for One-E. Only change was that the pressure was raised to 1007, and One-E's duration was decreased by one day. -- Roy 25  23:11, July 17, 2018 (UTC)