Forum:2019 Atlantic hurricane season/Lorenzo

AOI: Emerging from Africa (2)
Up on the 5-day outlook at 0/20 and expected to emerge in a few days. ~  Steve   Talk Page  My Edits  📧  15:30, September 19, 2019 (UTC)
 * Up to 0/40, this is looking more likely to be a candidate for Karen or Lorenzo (if the 10/30 system develops first). ~  Steve   Talk Page  My Edits  📧  18:27, September 19, 2019 (UTC)
 * Now 0/50. ~  Steve   Talk Page  My Edits  📧  00:14, September 20, 2019 (UTC)
 * Up to 0/60, this seems to be the most likely candidate for Karen unless the 10/30 system develops first. ~  Steve   Talk Page  My Edits  📧  06:02, September 20, 2019 (UTC)

10/70 now. Jas (Anonymous 2.0) (talk) 12:32, September 20, 2019 (UTC)


 * Up to 20/70. ~  Steve   Talk Page  My Edits  📧  18:35, September 20, 2019 (UTC)


 * Now 30/80, I expect this to be either Karen or Lorenzo, depending on if 99L steals a name. ~  Steve   Talk Page  My Edits  📧  00:45, September 21, 2019 (UTC)


 * Increased to 30/90.  Sandy 156   :)  06:20, September 21, 2019 (UTC)

The 00Z Euro run this morning makes this a strong hurricane, but turning north and later east, so not affecting any land areas. Ryan1000 07:59, September 21, 2019 (UTC)
 * Oh man, that's exactly the kind of storm I want for my mother's name (though ironically she wants her name to go to a destructive hurricane :/). I'm getting more and more anxious about whether this or 99L will become Karen... the race is on...! --Dylan (HurricaneMaker99) 13:43, September 21, 2019 (UTC)
 * Oh, and 40/90 now. --Dylan (HurricaneMaker99) 13:44, September 21, 2019 (UTC)
 * Now up to 50/90, should be invested soon. Well Dylan, we can only hope this one gets your mom's name and not 99L, which would just steal a name... ~  Steve   Talk Page  My Edits  📧  18:05, September 21, 2019 (UTC)
 * And this really looks like to become a fishspinner. Even 12z GFS agrees that this system would be a strong one but will stay in the open Atlantic for the entirety of its life. Jas (Anonymous 2.0) (talk) 18:07, September 21, 2019 (UTC)
 * 60/90. Ȝeſtikl (talk) 23:34, September 21, 2019 (UTC)

90L.INVEST
Now invested and up to 70/90. Assuming that 99L becomes Karen, this will become Lorenzo.  Sandy 156   :)  06:25, September 22, 2019 (UTC)
 * Models hint at this being a big one out to sea. I forecast another major out of this one, either Karen or Lorenzo. ~  Steve   Talk Page  My Edits  📧  06:28, September 22, 2019 (UTC)

Lorenzo will come from this one, since the Antilles wave got Karen. It'll probably become a considerable hurricane before eventually heading out to sea. Ryan1000 10:11, September 22, 2019 (UTC) 90/90. Ȝeſtikl (talk) 16:02, September 22, 2019 (UTC)
 * Should become a depression anytime now. Looking like "Lorenzo" might be an amazing fishspinning major. ~  Steve   Talk Page  My Edits  📧  18:52, September 22, 2019 (UTC)
 * Either tonight or tomorrowȜeſtikl (talk) 23:37, September 22, 2019 (UTC)
 * Honestly this seems to look like a TC on satellite already, with banding features and such. It'll probably be upgraded at 11 PM EDT or 2 or 5 AM EDT at the very latest. ~  Steve   Talk Page  My Edits  📧  00:46, September 23, 2019 (UTC)
 * Tropical Tidbits is calling this 13L. I'm still bitter that Karen came from 99L and not this :/ --Dylan (HurricaneMaker99) 01:03, September 23, 2019 (UTC)
 * ATCF is jumping ahead again. Ȝeſtikl (talk) 01:57, September 23, 2019 (UTC)

Tropical Depression Thirteen
It's now a TD and expected to gradually intensify. By day 5, a 110 mph hurricane is forecast, but considering their forecasts tend to be conservative I think it's highly likely to be a major. I predict a C4 peak. ~  Steve   Talk Page  My Edits  📧  03:24, September 23, 2019 (UTC)
 * Not sure if anyone mentioned it but one thing of note is now September has had 8 tropical cyclones, tying this year with 2002, 2007, and 2010 for the most active recorded. I think future Lorenzo is going to put on a show for us. Owen 04:09, September 23, 2019 (UTC)

Actually we've got 7 not 8, as storms are considered September storms for records in that regard if they form in the month, not exist in it. Dorian formed in August but persisted into September, but Felix in 2007 formed as a depression in August but intensified into a TS in September, therefore making it a September-forming storm. We'd have to get Melissa sometime within the next week to have an 8-storm September, like the 2002, 2007, and 2010 seasons. Ryan1000 09:55, September 23, 2019 (UTC)
 * I hope we either get Nestor within the next week, or we don't get Melissa until October. I'm a far bigger fan of breaking records than I am of repeatedly tying them 🙃 --Dylan (HurricaneMaker99) 12:03, September 23, 2019 (UTC)

Understandable, I believe we'll probably get pretty far down the list this year assuming we have a good October, though I doubt we'll get a 9-storm September this year, and with nothing else expected to form in the next 5 days, I'd start looking to October in the western Caribbean and/or GOM for Melissa or other storm activity later on after Lorenzo-to-be. Ryan1000 12:24, September 23, 2019 (UTC)

Tropical Storm Lorenzo
"Yet another tropical storm has formed over the Atlantic" begins the 11 AM discussion on newly-upgraded TS Lorenzo. Forecast peak still at 110, but could well go beyond that to become a major hurricane, and is at 40/1006 currently. Ryan1000 14:53, September 23, 2019 (UTC)
 * I can't believe how active this September has been! 😮 After a mostly quiet June, July, and even August, the season has really blew up this month. At this rate, we could end at Olga or Pablo. It would be a miracle if we somehow got up to Nestor by the months end. With no AOIs present, Melissa might wait until October. Anyway, Lorenzo looks like a fishspinning major in the long run (my favorite type of hurricane). ~  Steve   Talk Page  My Edits  📧  15:45, September 23, 2019 (UTC)


 * This season is proving to be one that is pretty back-loaded. Even with ending at Lorenzo for the month, we can easily have 2-3 more in October which would bring us to either Nestor or Olga. Not to mention we still have November, and the potential for an off-season surprise. It's amazing me that literally all of the hurricanes this year have been male names. Lorenzo is likely to become a potent hurricane which will be no threat to much land, for now at least. He should be fun to watch, and just saying, it would be nice to see this season (and decade as a whole) to have another Cat 5, but doesn't affect any land areas. Forecast calls for 110 mph Cat 2, but I see him peaking as a Cat 3/4. Owen 15:53, September 23, 2019 (UTC)


 * On the topic of the lack of female hurricanes so far this season - I genuinely believe there's a strong chance Karen could pull it off once it clears PR and the Virgins, and I'm not just saying that because of my bias in favor of that name. --Dylan (HurricaneMaker99) 19:47, September 23, 2019 (UTC)

Yeah, but I really don't like the prospect of high pressure building over Karen late in the forecast period and forcing Karen west and towards the U.S. east coast. The model forecasts predict Karen may not only go towards Florida down the road but maybe even as far south of Cuba, or as far north as the Carolinas or New England. It definitely might be something to watch out for down the road. Anyways, back to Lorenzo, he still isn't forecast to become a major hurricane by the NHC's current forecast, though the model runs take it to at least a cat 3, maybe even a cat 4. Ryan1000 20:08, September 23, 2019 (UTC)


 * Now forecast to become a major. Ȝeſtikl (talk) 01:33, September 24, 2019 (UTC)


 * Up to 50 mph/1002 mbar. It's been a while since we've had a classic recurving fishspinner Cape-Verde type major. The last one was I think Edouard in 2014. Other more recent ones that could be considered classic major Cape-Verde fishspinners, like Gaston '16 or Jose '17, actually threatened land (Azores in Gaston's case and the Lessers and New England in Jose's case). I wouldn't really consider Lee '17 one because of how it degenerated after only peaking as a TS and regenerated into a pop-up C3 in the subtropics, not really a "classic" kind in my opinion. Then there was Danny '15, but that also affected parts of the Lessers and never recurved out to sea. Lorenzo reminds me of a good ol' 2010 Cape-Verde fishspinning major like Danielle or Julia. ~  Steve   Talk Page  My Edits  📧  03:53, September 24, 2019 (UTC)


 * Now a strong TS - 65 mph/997 mbar. Forecast peak is 120 mph but it could still very well become a C4. ~  Steve   Talk Page  My Edits  📧  15:08, September 24, 2019 (UTC)


 * ATCF has Lorenzo at 70 mph. Unless the NHC opposes the ATCF, Lorenzo will become a hurricane tomorrow.  Sandy 156   :)  01:48, September 25, 2019 (UTC)


 * Next advisory comes out within the hour, and Lorenzo is already most certainly a hurricane. It appears as if it’s already formed an eye, and it’s looking really well organized. Now we just have to wait for the NHC to upgrade it. Leeboy100 Hello! 08:12, September 25, 2019 (UTC)

Hurricane Lorenzo
And there it is. 80 mph, 988 mbars. Leeboy100 Hello! 09:02, September 25, 2019 (UTC)


 * 70 kt, 988 mbar.-- Java Hurricane  09:17, September 25, 2019 (UTC)


 * Forecast peak at 120 mph, but cat 4 is definitely still in play. Ryan1000 09:35, September 25, 2019 (UTC)


 * Now 85 mph/983 mbar, I'm expecting a Category 4 to be honest. I'm loving this classic recurving fishspinner Cape-Verde major-to-be! ☺ Like I said above, reminds me of the glory days of 2010 (Danielle, etc.). ~  Steve   Talk Page  My Edits  📧  18:22, September 25, 2019 (UTC)


 * Up to 90 mph/978 mbar, might be a category 2 in the next advisory or so. ~  Steve   Talk Page  My Edits  📧  21:10, September 25, 2019 (UTC)

Forecast peak raised to 125, though I'm strongly expecting a cat 4 from this. It might later affect the northeastern Azores Islands while turning northeast, but Lorenzo will probably weaken to a category 1 hurricane by that point. Ryan1000 21:41, September 25, 2019 (UTC)
 * The fish are getting dizzier by the minute. Beatissima (talk) 23:38, September 25, 2019 (UTC)
 * ATCF says 100/974, probably will become a C2 in the next advisory. This hurricane is giving me Isaac 2000 vibes.  Sandy 156   :)  02:33, September 26, 2019 (UTC)
 * And it's official, Lorenzo is now a C2.  Sandy 156   :)  02:39, September 26, 2019 (UTC)

Major Hurricane Lorenzo
Welp, did not expect that, but Lorenzo is now 125/955. ph tracking  10:29, September 26, 2019 (UTC)
 * Just noticed that and got kicked out of the editing screen. Ȝeſtikl (talk) 10:30, September 26, 2019 (UTC)
 * Whoa, this has been intensifying rapidly. Now a Category 4, 130 mph/949 mbar and is one of the strongest and most powerful on record for that region, comparable to Gabrielle 1989. Imagine this became a C5 fishspinner 🤗 ~ <font face="Impact"> Steve   Talk Page  My Edits  📧  15:15, September 26, 2019 (UTC)
 * 140/943 now. I actually really hope this becomes a Category 5 fishspinner. That would be really nice to see. Leeboy100 Hello! 20:57, September 26, 2019 (UTC)

Lorenzo actually isn't the most powerful for the region (Julia formed farther east in 2010), but he is the largest Cape-Verde-type major hurricane (for this area) since Gabrielle 30 years ago (which also formed under this naming list). I also don't think Lorenzo will hit category 5 intensity over open water, but it might get very close (150-155 mph), since he only has until tomorrow night or Saturday morning for additional intensification before he recurves and gets some shear from the approaching trough. Also, the Azores are still in play for a landfall down the road from Lorenzo, but now Lorenzo's expected to be at 105 mph when he reaches the islands...if that pans out, this might actually have a chance at being historic for the Azores down the road. Ryan1000 21:39, September 26, 2019 (UTC)
 * According to this tweet from Phil Klotzbach, the strongest Azores hurricane landfall on record was with 90-kt winds, so if that forecast verifies, then Lorenzo would either tie the record or fall just short of doing so (allowing for slight additional weakening between the Day 5 point and any Azores landfall). --Dylan (HurricaneMaker99) 23:52, September 26, 2019 (UTC)
 * 145 mph from ATCF. I would really like a fish C5 from this hurricane, since it's not impacting land at all.  Sandy 156   :)  01:07, September 27, 2019 (UTC)
 * 145/939 rn from the NHC.  Sandy 156   :)  02:36, September 27, 2019 (UTC)
 * This is probably near its peak now. 🙁 But I still wouldn't at all rule out a 150-155 mph C4 before it begins weakening. ~ <font face="Impact"> Steve   Talk Page  My Edits  📧  03:14, September 27, 2019 (UTC)

Forecast landfall for the Azores has been reduced to 100 mph, but the islands of Flores and Corvo (home to over 4,000 people) are directly in Lorenzo's path. Hopefully they can be evacuated to the other islands farther east before Lorenzo hits. Ryan1000 10:26, September 27, 2019 (UTC)


 * It has weakened a little to 140 mph/943 mbar. So much for this being a complete fishspinner. Hopefully the western Azores prepare themselves for Lorenzo. ~ <font face="Impact"> Steve   Talk Page  My Edits  📧  15:24, September 27, 2019 (UTC)


 * Down to a Category 3, 125 mph/948 mbar. Expected to weaken a bit more, stall at 115 mph from 24-48 hours, and then turn extratropical as it passes into the Azores. ~ <font face="Impact"> Steve   Talk Page  My Edits  📧  21:48, September 27, 2019 (UTC)


 * Down to 120 mph/952 mbar and still forecast to weaken only very slowly in the next few days. ~ <font face="Impact"> Steve   Talk Page  My Edits  📧  06:42, September 28, 2019 (UTC)


 * Now 115 mph/957 mbar, continued slow weakening expected and it is likely to still be tropical when it passes near the Azores. Looks like the extratropical remnants might strike the British Isles in the long run, so they should prepare too. ~ <font face="Impact"> Steve   Talk Page  My Edits  📧  18:02, September 28, 2019 (UTC)

Lorenzo has spiked back up to 130 mph and down to 950 mbar. Beatissima (talk) 21:04, September 28, 2019 (UTC)
 * And now back up to 145 and down to 942. Just read that Lorenzo sank a tugboat with 14 on board. 3 survivors have been rescued. The others are still missing. Beatissima (talk) 00:03, September 29, 2019 (UTC)
 * Didn't expect that kind of re-strengthening at all. It could even tie or surpass its previous peak (I think 145 mph/939 mbar) at this rate. However, it SHOULD weaken again after tonight. ~ <font face="Impact"> Steve   Talk Page  My Edits  📧  00:38, September 29, 2019 (UTC)
 * I also hope all the missing people on the tugboat are found alive. This tragedy unfortunately shows how even fishspinners can be dangerous (if boats or other things are caught in the storm). 🙁 ~ <font face="Impact"> Steve   Talk Page  My Edits  📧  00:50, September 29, 2019 (UTC)
 * I hope they're all found alive, so we can enjoy Lorenzo as a purely awesome fish-spinning beast. Beatissima (talk) 02:18, September 29, 2019 (UTC)

Category 5 Hurricane Lorenzo
...LORENZO STRENGTHENS INTO A CATEGORY 5 HURRICANE... Ȝeſtikl (talk) 02:12, September 29, 2019 (UTC)
 * Holy shit, I'm done with this. Lorenzo is now a fish C5 with the intensity of 160/925. Lorenzo is in the record books. I have no more words...  Sandy 156   :)  02:16, September 29, 2019 (UTC)
 * 160/925.... I don’t even know what to say anymore. I have no words. This season has broken me. Leeboy100 Hello! 02:18, September 29, 2019 (UTC)
 * Were it not for 99L, my mom's name would have gone to a Category 5 hurricane, just like she and I both wanted. 🤬😭🤬😭🤬 --Dylan (HurricaneMaker99) 02:21, September 29, 2019 (UTC)
 * Maybe Lorenzo is actually Karen, and is rapidly intensifying because she's LIVID that the NHC wrote the wrong name on her Starbucks cup! Beatissima (talk) 02:24, September 29, 2019 (UTC)
 * Holy shit. I had a feeling Lorenzo would pull this off, assuming this will be the last Category 5 of the season, it's definitely a better way to close off the decade. I just hope the Azores do not get hit too hard down the line. Owen 03:00, September 29, 2019 (UTC)

...LARGE AND POWERFUL CATEGORY 5 LORENZO BECOMES THE STRONGEST HURRICANE THIS FAR NORTH AND EAST IN THE ATLANTIC BASIN... Ȝeſtikl (talk)

Holy shit, this seriously became a C5?! 😮😮😮 This is now in the record books as the most powerful that far northeast in the open Atlantic! I never expected this kind of strengthening from him at all! This is the closest we've ever gotten to an actual C5 fishspinner in the Atlantic basin. Unfortunately, the Azores are directly in Lorenzo's path and this might be one of the strongest to ever hit those islands. And after extratropical transition, Ireland is in Lorenzo's bulls-eye as well. ~ <font face="Impact"> Steve   Talk Page  My Edits  📧  06:37, September 29, 2019 (UTC)
 * Wow, I didn't think this would intensify all the way to a cat 5 over open waters, that makes Lorenzo the easternmost such storm on record in the Atlantic, surpassing the previous record set by either Hugo in 1989 or Isabel in 2003, both of which did so just east of 55 W. But, as amazing as this is to see, Lorenzo might not be a total fishspinner; as Owen mentioned, the northwesternmost two Islands in the Azores, Corvo and Flores (combined have over 4,000 people, mostly on the latter island) are still right in the firing line of Lorenzo, and with Lorenzo's unexpected explosion to category 5 strength, he's now expected to be a 110 mph hurricane when he reaches them according to the latest NHC forecast, but seeing as how Lorenzo managed to pull off cat 5, Lorenzo could very well end up being the first major hurricane to hit the Azores on record, which might cut his chances of returning in 6 years...behave, Lorenzo. Ryan1000 06:48, September 29, 2019 (UTC)

Major Hurricane Lorenzo (2nd time)
Back down to 155 mph as of the latest advisory. It may have been short lived, but I'll be damned if that wasn't an impressive peak. Gotta say though, Lorenzo's going to look pretty tacky on the "all known cat. 5 Atlantic hurricanes" image. Send Help Please (talk) 09:03, September 29, 2019 (UTC)
 * Would be hard to miss Lorenzo when he's added to WP's image, he'll really stand out for how far east he reached cat 5, however briefly. Corvo and Flores are still in the center of Lorenzo's cone, though the forecast intensity at that point was downed slightly to a 105 mph storm with the latest discussion, like before, but still, those two islands better keep their eyes out. Ryan1000 09:37, September 29, 2019 (UTC)
 * Down to 145 mph/938 mbar and is on track to hit the western Azores by Wednesday. This storm really is a rare outlier. ~ <font face="Impact"> Steve   Talk Page  My Edits  📧  19:47, September 29, 2019 (UTC)
 * And it just weakened quicker than I expected, now a Category 3 (but barely, 115 mph/948 mbar). ~ <font face="Impact"> Steve   Talk Page  My Edits  📧  21:08, September 29, 2019 (UTC)

Tropical Tidbits says Lorenzo's down to 110 mph (95 knots), so maybe this will only be at category 1 strength or minimal cat 2 (100 mph or so) when he reaches the northwestern Azores islands. But in any instance, Lorenzo will be a very large hurricane by the time he reaches Flores and Corvo, so winds and rain will be quite prolonged. Ryan1000 01:07, September 30, 2019 (UTC)

Hurricane Lorenzo (2nd time)
Lorenzo is now a cat 2, 105 mph winds and continuing to wind down as he races northeast. Hurricane watches are up for the islands. Ryan1000 08:50, September 30, 2019 (UTC)
 * Watches now upgraded to warnings. Flores, Corvo, Faial, Pico, Sao Jorge, Graciosa and Terceira now under a hurricane warning, Sao Miguel and Santa Maria now under TS warning. Lorenzo still at 105 mph in the 11 AM update, pressure now up to 962 mbars. Jas (Anonymous 2.0) (talk) 17:36, September 30, 2019 (UTC)
 * Still at 90 kts, but pressure slightly decreased to 957 mb. By the way, I think there is a chance for Lorenzo to be downgraded in post-analysis. I hope that won't happen though. Jas (Anonymous 2.0) (talk) 21:08, September 30, 2019 (UTC)
 * All of the Azores now appear to be under a hurricane warning. I hope they're getting prepared for this thing. And it better not be downgraded post-analysis...a year with two C5's is amazing and I want 2019 to stay that way, especially considering that Lorenzo is one of very few Atlantic C5's that are not absolutely devastating disasters, unless the Azores gets absolutely wrecked (hope not). ~ <font face="Impact"> Steve   Talk Page  My Edits  📧  00:30, October 1, 2019 (UTC)

Lorenzo's looking quite remarkable on satellite imagery right now, there might even be a chance Lorenzo will rebound in intensity slightly as he approaches Flores and Corvo tomorrow night or so. Ryan1000 12:44, October 1, 2019 (UTC)


 * Hmm...Tidbits still says 100 mph, but Lorenzo's continuing to look really nice, and the eyewall looks poised to go right over Flores, actually tomorrow morning or so. Lorenzo is zipping by pretty fast. Ryan1000 13:55, October 1, 2019 (UTC)


 * Now 100 mph/962 mbar as it closes in on the Azores. It should strike them tonight through tomorrow. By Friday, Great Britain needs to prepare for what could be a powerful post-tropical windstorm. ~ <font face="Verdana"> Steve   Message Me  My Edits  📧  18:17, October 1, 2019 (UTC)

Lorenzo is losing the intense convection that blew up around his circulation earlier today. Now I would expect him to fall down to a cat 1 when he reaches Flores and Corvo tonight, but if the center doesn't pass directly over them, the right-side of Lorenzo would, so there could be somewhat extensive impacts to the islands from Lorenzo. Ryan1000 20:38, October 1, 2019 (UTC)


 * Winds still at 100 mph with the new advisory but pressure fell two mbars to 960. Expected to be at 90 mph when his right eyewall or center passes over Corvo and Flores tonight. Ryan1000 21:53, October 1, 2019 (UTC)
 * Hopefully the impacts aren't worse than expected in the Azores, and they better prepare. It's sad to not have this become a true C5 fish from this.  Sandy 156   :)  02:29, October 2, 2019 (UTC)


 * Sadly, Lorenzo is now deadly. Three of the missing crew members on the Bourbon Rhode are confirmed dead. Eight more are still missing. Let’s hope Lorenzo doesn’t cause any more deaths in the Azores. Leeboy100 Hello! 02:28, October 2, 2019 (UTC)


 * This just sucks. Seriously, it seems like Atlantic C5s can never go without at least some sort of tragic news. I was hoping Lorenzo would be a complete fishspinner, the first Atlantic C5 to be that on record, but nooo - it HAS to cause deaths and impact the Azores. Hoping those missing eight are found alive. ~ <font face="Verdana"> Steve   Message Me  My Edits  📧  03:24, October 2, 2019 (UTC)

Looks like Lorenzo will be post-tropical soon. Beatissima (talk) 03:29, October 2, 2019 (UTC)


 * Down to 90 mph/960 mbar. It's now striking the Azores and looks like it's starting the extratropical transition. ~ <font face="Verdana"> Steve   Message Me  My Edits  📧  06:52, October 2, 2019 (UTC)
 * Lorenzo now 75 kt, 960 mbar. Forecast to dissipate over the Low Countries. -- Java Hurricane  12:59, October 2, 2019 (UTC)

(Edit Conflict) Looks like Lorenzo missed a landfall just to the west, so Lorenzo is now the only category 5 Atlantic hurricane to officially never have its center of circulation cross land, but like I said before, that means Flores and Corvo got the eastern eyewall of Lorenzo, the strongest part of the hurricane, so they got hit pretty hard. With a hurricane as big as Lorenzo, there was a lot of large waves, widespread strong tropical storm-force winds, and surge damage to the islands. Some images and videos of it can be found on Dr. Master's blog post (archived from overnight)...hopefully the final toll doesn't end up being as chilling as some of those photos and videos may seem to suggest. Ryan1000 13:05, October 2, 2019 (UTC)

Post-Tropical Cyclone Lorenzo
And NHC issues its final advisory. Jas (Anonymous 2.0) (talk) 15:02, October 2, 2019 (UTC)
 * It's amazing this never made landfall! The first Atlantic C5 to do that as Ryan mentioned above. But unfortunately, the impacts to the Azores and the sinking of the ship don't make this a complete fishspinner. The UK and Ireland also need to prepare for extratropical impacts. ~ <font face="Verdana"> Steve   Message Me  My Edits  📧  15:16, October 2, 2019 (UTC)
 * A trendsetter, a record-breaker. Sadly not a complete fishspinner. Lorenzo deserves his own archive, to be honest. Hopefully the impacts aren't as severe as feared. Jas (Anonymous 2.0) (talk) 18:49, October 2, 2019 (UTC)

We'll keep him up until his extratropical impacts in Ireland and the UK are finished later on. But after that, yeah, we'll give Lorenzo his own archive from the rest of September. Ryan1000 23:33, October 2, 2019 (UTC)
 * I just archived the rest of September. I've also been debating on whether to give Imelda her own archive, as that was a very devastating storm to Texas and likely could get retired despite being a weak and relatively short-lived TS. What do you guys think, should we give Imelda her own archive too? In the meantime I've archived it with the rest of September. ~ <font face="Verdana"> Steve   Message Me  My Edits  📧  21:00, October 3, 2019 (UTC)
 * Imelda is a notable one, so I think she deserves her own archive. Was only a TS for more or less 6 hours, yet became Texas's 4th wettest TC ever. Actual total of damage is still unknown, but the low death toll could affect her retirement chances. Jas (Anonymous 2.0) (talk) 22:12, October 3, 2019 (UTC)

Yeah I suppose Imelda should get her own archive, she was notable enough, maybe not enough to be retired but still notable. And Lorenzo was somewhat excptional for his location, and parts of Flores did suffer extensive damage from him, so he'll get his own archive too. Ryan1000 04:37, October 4, 2019 (UTC)
 * Alright, Imelda's getting her own archive. The extratropical remnants of Lorenzo have also been striking the British Isles over the past day, leaving behind quite a bit of impacts and flooding/power outages in places such as Donegal. Hopefully it doesn't get any worse. ~ <font face="Verdana"> Steve   Message Me  My Edits  📧  20:11, October 4, 2019 (UTC)