Forum:2017 Pacific hurricane season/September

September
Same as last month,  It's already September according to UTC. Here comes the peak of the season! Hi!-68.106.0.77 04:30, September 1, 2017 (UTC)


 * While the Atlantic has three simultaneous hurricanes, this basin is dead. Ugh. ~ KN2731 {talk} 09:34, September 7, 2017 (UTC)
 * Yep, this really feels like a La Nina occurring now. I can't wait to see "Max" form, as that is the name of one of my dogs! ~  Steve   Talk Page  My Edits  📧  20:37, September 7, 2017 (UTC)
 * Nobody watches this basin right now, as everyone focuses on the Atlantic, especially Irma. Hurricanes, hurricanes, hurricanes! -68.106.0.77 05:29, September 8, 2017 (UTC)


 * We haven't seen a single CPac-named storm this season. ~ KN2731 {talk} 15:11, September 9, 2017 (UTC)

AOI: South of Baja
Finally something appears on the 5-day outlook; it's at 0/20. GFS and ECMWF both make this a hurricane at 160+ hours. ~ KN2731 {talk} 15:15, September 9, 2017 (UTC)


 * Up to 0/40. Hoping it's a powerful fishspinner, because the name "Max" seems ominous. ~  Steve   Talk Page  My Edits  📧  19:51, September 9, 2017 (UTC)


 * Up to 0/50. ~ KN2731 {talk} 04:56, September 10, 2017 (UTC)
 * This will probably have to settle for Norma, but hopefully not Otis. Because if it does become Otis, that would mean the pathetic 15-E hijacked a name. ~  Steve   Talk Page  My Edits  📧  01:06, September 12, 2017 (UTC)
 * 10/60. Hurricanes, hurricanes, hurricanes!-68.106.0.77 04:35, September 12, 2017 (UTC)
 * 30/70. Hurricanes, hurricanes, hurricanes! -68.106.0.77 14:35, September 12, 2017 (UTC)

97E.INVEST
Now at 70/90. Yet as Max develops and 15-E is to become Norma, this will instead settle in for Otis. Hurricanes, hurricanes, hurricanes!-68.106.0.77 22:35, September 13, 2017 (UTC)


 * 80/90, it should become 17-E shortly after. Hurricanes, hurricanes, hurricanes!-68.106.0.77 03:16, September 14, 2017 (UTC)

Tropical Storm Norma
Hi guys. I am new to the Hurricanes Wiki. Here is my first post to this wiki.

The latest BT had 97E becoming Norma recently. 68.106, you might be surprised about that. I really doubted 15-E going to be Norma first and i am rooted on that to become Otis. I've tracked both on Storm2k and you might know it i am rooting for this to become Norma. :)-- 13:29, September 14, 2017 (UTC)


 * Not yet confirmed by the NHC yet, but it just jumped literally to a TS. Hurricanes, hurricanes, hurricanes! -68.106.0.77 14:29, September 14, 2017 (UTC)


 * Now up on NHC. It was already producing TS-force winds, so it would've immediately jumped to become Norma once it got a closed LLC. Expected to become a hurricane before moving ashore in western Baja. Ryan1000 16:01, September 14, 2017 (UTC)


 * This developed quite fast. The NHC forecasts Norma to get up to 90 mph but it could easily get stronger than that. Baja has to watch out, as this may be worse than Lidia. ~  Steve   Talk Page  My Edits  📧  23:00, September 14, 2017 (UTC)


 * Holy shoot, it has a chance to impact my area in Southern Arizona. Well, it's too early to tell now. Hurricanes, hurricanes, hurricanes!-68.106.0.77 23:39, September 14, 2017 (UTC)


 * Up to 45 mph (40 knots)/1003 mbars. Watch out, Baja... ~  Steve   Talk Page  My Edits  📧  05:35, September 15, 2017 (UTC)


 * Norma is just east of Socorro Island. An eye I think is visible. Norma almost a hurricane, 60 kn/990 mb. Hurricanes, hurricanes, hurricanes!-68.106.0.77 02:45, September 16, 2017 (UTC)

Hurricane Norma
Now a hurricane. Anonymous 2.0 (talk) 03:07, September 16, 2017 (UTC)


 * Now, as it approaches Baja, it will weaken to a TD before making landfall. Hurricanes, hurricanes, hurricanes!-68.106.0.77 14:06, September 16, 2017 (UTC)
 * Norma doesn't seem as bad as I originally thought. Baja could actually get off rather easy if it moves generally to the west like the forecast track says. The landfall will probably be as a remnant low. ~  Steve   Talk Page  My Edits  📧  20:22, September 16, 2017 (UTC)

Tropical Storm Norma (2nd time)
Back to a TS. And Baja could actually be spared, even though tropical storm watches and warnings are still up. ~  Steve   Talk Page  My Edits  📧  22:42, September 16, 2017 (UTC)


 * Norma is now moving away from Baja. Hurricanes, hurricanes, hurricanes!-68.106.0.77 16:22, September 17, 2017 (UTC)
 * It actually reintensified to 50 mph, but its center is sparing southern Baja. They are still getting some impacts from Norma's outer bands though. ~  Steve   Talk Page  My Edits  📧  22:33, September 17, 2017 (UTC)


 * Lidia 2. Well done, Norma Jeane Mortensen. We are now looking forward to more exciting storms (but not dangerous like you were). Yawn. blow a kiss fier a gun all wee need is somebodey to leen on 150px-PrussiaChibi.png 23:50, September 17, 2017 (UTC)

Like Otis below, Norma is now down to 40 mph, 1005 mbars. Forecast to dissipate in a day or two. Anonymous 2.0 (talk) 02:53, September 19, 2017 (UTC)

Tropical Depression Norma (2nd time)
Can't believe this hasn't been updated, Norma has been a depression for a few hours now. I guess Maria's getting all the attention. That, and/or everyone else on here is asleep..... Leeboy100 Beware Maria's Fury. 10:27, September 19, 2017 (UTC)
 * Nobody cares about Norma because Maria is the scary and main attention-getter currently. This storm is forecast to die out by tomorrow. Thankfully Baja was (mostly) spared. ~  Steve   Talk Page  My Edits  📧  18:14, September 19, 2017 (UTC)

Post-Tropical Cyclone Norma
And now she turned post-tropical. Hurricanes, hurricanes, hurricanes!-68.106.0.77 03:56, September 20, 2017 (UTC)

AOI: South of Mexico
0/20, conditions expected to be marginally conducive. ~ KN2731 {talk} 04:56, September 10, 2017 (UTC)


 * Now 10/50. I guess it will be a race for the name "Max". ~  Steve   Talk Page  My Edits  📧  17:19, September 10, 2017 (UTC)


 * 20/70. I think this will be Max. ~  Steve   Talk Page  My Edits  📧  04:48, September 11, 2017 (UTC)

Now 50/70. This needs to be Max. I hope the name of one of my dogs gets very powerful, and doesn't go to that excuse of a TC (I'm looking at you 15-E). ~  Steve   Talk Page  My Edits  📧  01:03, September 12, 2017 (UTC)

Tropical Depression Sixteen-E
And it formed. Expected to remain a TD until it hits Mexico though. Anonymous 2.0 (talk) 15:53, September 13, 2017 (UTC)

Tropical Storm Max
Now Max, at 40mph/1005mb. Landfall tomorrow so unlikely to strengthen much further. Kiewii 22:10, September 13, 2017 (UTC)


 * Thank god the name Max wasn't stolen for 15-E. Hurricanes, hurricanes, hurricanes!-68.106.0.77 22:25, September 13, 2017 (UTC)
 * It will make landfall in Mexico. It seems to me that this is Re-Beatriz and Calvin. Tropical Storm Warning and Hurricane Watch are issued for Zihuatanejo to Punta Maldonado, Mexico. Intensity is 60 mph/1001 mbar. Hurricanes, hurricanes, hurricanes!-68.106.0.77 03:12, September 14, 2017 (UTC)

65 mph. Forecast to reach 70 mph before landfall. Hope this won't be too bad. Anonymous 2.0 (talk) 07:43, September 14, 2017 (UTC)

Hurricane Max
Special advisory issued in lieu of the intermediate that was scheduled for this time. 65 kts/992 mbar, seems to be heading a bit more southward than expected. NHC forecast peak raised to 75 kts to account for the prospect of Max having more time over water before landfall. --Dylan (HurricaneMaker99) 11:58, September 14, 2017 (UTC)


 * WHA? Did NOT expect that to happen...well, at least it's a tiny hurricane, so impacts will be localized from this, rather than MAXimized. Ryan1000 13:19, September 14, 2017 (UTC)
 * And it's a hurricane. Didn't expect to happen though. Hurricanes, hurricanes, hurricanes!-68.106.0.77 14:25, September 14, 2017 (UTC)


 * Whoa, it became a hurricane?! At least my dog's name wasn't used for a weak TS. :D However, it appears to have made landfall in Mexico. I hope damages or deaths are not max-imized. ~  Steve   Talk Page  My Edits  📧  22:58, September 14, 2017 (UTC)

Tropical Storm Max (2nd time)
Weakened to a TS while at landfall. Hurricanes, hurricanes, hurricanes! -68.106.0.77 02:15, September 15, 2017 (UTC)


 * Again, I'm in relief that 15-E didn't steal the name "Max". This is a much better storm than 15-E, and Norma is as well. But it does kinda suck that the name of one of my dogs has to go to land and do destructive things... ~  Steve   Talk Page  My Edits  📧  05:38, September 15, 2017 (UTC)

Post-Tropical Cyclone Max
Gone. Hurricanes, hurricanes, hurricanes!-68.106.0.77 14:37, September 15, 2017 (UTC)


 * Unfortunately, it caused 2 deaths. Hurricanes, hurricanes, hurricanes!-68.106.0.77 04:02, September 20, 2017 (UTC)

AOI: Remnants of Katia
20/20. Doubt this will redevelop though. ~  Steve   Talk Page  My Edits  📧  17:19, September 10, 2017 (UTC)

Tropical Depression Fifteen-E
Are you sure about that, Steve? ;) 25 kts/1006 mbar, could become a weak Tropical Storm Max in about a day or so before weakening. --Dylan (HurricaneMaker99) 21:02, September 11, 2017 (UTC)


 * Ok, this caught me by surprise. 15-E, whatever you do, don't intensify beyond 30 knots/35 mph. If it does, we will have the most massive excuse of a named TC ever (possibly worse than even Jova, Failicia, Karina '08, or Pilar '87). ~  Steve   Talk Page  My Edits  📧  01:00, September 12, 2017 (UTC)
 * Don't worry Steve, shear is taking over 15-E and it's not expected to be a TS. Hurricanes, hurricanes, hurricanes!-68.106.0.77 04:33, September 12, 2017 (UTC)
 * That would be a relief. But with the way it defied unfavorable upper-level winds to become a TD, it could still continue to fight the shear and briefly steal a name. The NHC takes it up to 35 mph, but I would say it getting a tiny bit stronger than that is possible. I hope it remains below TS strength though. So far it looks likely it won't steal the "ominous" name, Max. ~ <font face="Impact"> Steve   Talk Page  My Edits  📧  05:53, September 12, 2017 (UTC)
 * I don't see Max as a particularly ominous name tbh, but then again Bob doesn't sound terribly threatening either and we all know about what a storm with that name did to New England in 1991. --Dylan (HurricaneMaker99) 11:30, September 12, 2017 (UTC)
 * Never mind, it will steal the name Max. God forbid. Hurricanes, hurricanes, hurricanes!-68.106.0.77 02:16, September 13, 2017 (UTC)

Lol. This is actually forecast to strengthen to 50 mph in 3 days. Doubt this will be anything significant though. The race for Max is on. 111.125.87.148 10:24, September 13, 2017 (UTC) (aka Anonymous 2.0 (talk) 14:20, September 13, 2017 (UTC).)


 * As 16-E becomes Max, this will have to settle in for Norma (or even Otis if 97E develops and becomes Norma). 15-E not yet at TS strength. Hurricanes, hurricanes, hurricanes!-68.106.0.77 22:31, September 13, 2017 (UTC)
 * Never mind, this will have to settle in with Otis since Norma came out of nowhere. Hurricanes, hurricanes, hurricanes! -68.106.0.77 14:27, September 14, 2017 (UTC)

This is such a boring storm. It just stays as a TD for days while spinning fish. But, it is forecast to eventually strengthen to at least a moderate TS as it continues being out in the middle of nowhere spinning fish. Looks like the TD order this season could be Lidia, Otis, Max, and Norma. :P ~ <font face="Impact"> Steve   Talk Page  My Edits  📧  23:04, September 14, 2017 (UTC)


 * Both TDs 15-E and 14L are moving westward with no change of strength. They are forecasted to steal the names Otis and Lee or Maria. Sigh. That's how it goes. Hurricanes, hurricanes, hurricanes!-68.106.0.77 05:28, September 16, 2017 (UTC)
 * With the most recent advisory, this is no longer forecast to become a TS. lol --Dylan (HurricaneMaker99) 11:07, September 16, 2017 (UTC)
 * This is like the longest-lasting TD I've ever tracked lol. I actually hope at this point that it doesn't steal the name "Otis", since it will continue to be weak due to dry air (as mentioned in the discussion). And the naming order I mentioned above would be a bit weird to see on the Wiki EPac season page, and could be a bit confusing. ~ <font face="Impact"> Steve   Talk Page  My Edits  📧  20:26, September 16, 2017 (UTC)

Tropical Storm Otis
It happened guys. 35 kts/1004 mbar. In my book this system is a win just for actually earning itself a name after five days as a depression. --Dylan (HurricaneMaker99) 20:44, September 16, 2017 (UTC)


 * I can't believe this happened already. I agree that it is a bit of a win for persisting as a TD for so long. But it is very weak so it won't get a very high grade in my retirements. ~ <font face="Impact"> Steve   Talk Page  My Edits  📧  20:51, September 16, 2017 (UTC)
 * Sigh, finally. It will be weak just like Lee in the other side. Hurricanes, hurricanes, hurricanes!-68.106.0.77 05:07, September 17, 2017 (UTC)
 * 60 mph/999 mb. Not bad but still not a hurricane. Hurricanes, hurricanes, hurricanes!-68.106.0.77 16:20, September 17, 2017 (UTC)

Hurricane Otis
Umm... surprise!!!! RI'd to Category 2, now at 90 kts/973 mbar and projected to peak as a 110-kt Category 3. All I can say is... erm... wow. A couple days ago, it looked like 15-E would more likely sputter and die without ever becoming named. Now it's more likely to become the EPAC season's fourth major!! Go, Otis, go!!! --Dylan (HurricaneMaker99) 20:57, September 17, 2017 (UTC)


 * This is kind of funny. I thought this was going to be a flop. --Whiplash (talk) 21:03, September 17, 2017 (UTC)


 * Just watch this thing RI to a C5. lol T  G  2 0 1 7 22:09, September 17, 2017 (UTC)
 * DID NOT expect this!!! Otis is mad from everybody talking smack about it when it was a struggling TD and when it was just named. This is probably the biggest surprise this year. Nobody expected Otis to do this. I think everybody expected Otis to flop. This could be getting my highest possible grade in my retirements. Who put caffeine and energy drinks in that part of the Pacific?! Just watch it surpass Patricia's strength, lmao. ~ <font face="Impact"> Steve   Talk Page  My Edits  📧  22:35, September 17, 2017 (UTC)
 * It looks like Otis has come out of the depths of what seemed to be a failure to become a surprisingly strong hurricane, the NHC apparently still has much yet to learn with the intensity forecasts of Pacific hurricanes. Ryan1000 22:46, September 17, 2017 (UTC)
 * Um...wow. I didn't expect to be a hurricane. It's RIing into a major. Hurricanes, hurricanes, hurricanes!-68.106.0.77 23:12, September 17, 2017 (UTC)
 * WHAT? I didn't expect this at all! Went from a bumbling depression, with no chance to be a TS and here we are now, a C2. Come on, Mr Redding! You can beat that blonde-haired, blue-eyed pretty boy, I'm sure you will exceed 130mph. GO ON OTIS!! Because you're so popular now, even Jay Z and Kanye made a song about you.  blow a kiss fier a gun all wee need is somebodey to leen on 150px-PrussiaChibi.png 23:48, September 17, 2017 (UTC)

Ummmm, okay? I did not expect that at all. Leeboy100 Hoping for recovery. 01:02, September 18, 2017 (UTC)


 * Neither did I to be honest! BUT LET'S VOTE, EVERYONE. WHO THINKS OTIS WILL BEAT KENNY IN INTENSITY? I DO! Dark skinned, brown-eyed soul singer (Otis) vs blonde-haired, blue-eyed pretty boy (Ken), who wins?  blow a kiss fier a gun all wee need is somebodey to leen on 150px-PrussiaChibi.png 01:19, September 18, 2017 (UTC)

Major Hurricane Otis
115 mph. It's a major. From a storm forecast to die without becoming named to a Category 3, this was unexpected. User:Stacy54 10:02, September 17, 2017.


 * This surprisingly hurricane is now a major. I won't be surprised if this were to intensify into a Category 4/5. Hurricanes, hurricanes, hurricanes!-68.106.0.77 04:04, September 18, 2017 (UTC)
 * It's over marginal SSTs and conditions are not the most conducive... it has only until about tomorrow night to strengthen more, although realistically I think it is near its peak intensity. The RI trend appears to have slowed to a halt. Otis' eye is not as distinct as earlier (according to the discussion). It was cool that Otis got this strong contrary to predictions of it being a flop. It could still strengthen slightly more, but the chances of it becoming a C4 are low, and C5 almost certainly won't occur. ~ <font face="Impact"> Steve   Talk Page  My Edits  📧  05:23, September 18, 2017 (UTC)

Watch Otis become a Category 5, anyway. He got this far, so why not? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ (End of sarcasm) Leeboy100 Hoping for recovery. 05:46, September 18, 2017 (UTC)


 * This is the biggest surprise of the season. From a flop to one of the hurricanes on top. Wow, Otis. Just wow. Anonymous 2.0 (talk) 07:10, September 18, 2017 (UTC)

Hurricane Otis (2nd time)
It was rapidly intensifying, and now, it's rapidly weakening. Hurricanes, hurricanes, hurricanes! -68.106.0.77 14:31, September 18, 2017 (UTC)

Tropical Storm Otis (2nd time)
Back to a TS. Guess it was fun while it lasted. At least Otis isn't a (complete) flop, unlike Lee in the Atlantic... EDIT: it wasn't a flop. Anonymous 2.0 (talk) 14:47, September 18, 2017 (UTC)
 * Easy come, easy go... though I hope that by adding the "(complete)" qualifier, you aren't implying that Otis is in any sense a flop. In my book, this is the biggest win to happen within the NHC's AOR so far this year, though not even close to the strongest storm in either the EPAC or ATL. I can think of only one other ATL or EPAC storm off the top of my head which was forecast at any point to dissipate as an unnamed depression, and then ultimately became a major hurricane; that storm was Joaquin, and while Joaquin was considerably stronger than Otis, the latter was still at 30 kts, forecast to remain below TS status, only 36 hours before it became a major hurricane. All this after five days as an unnamed depression. That is amazing. --Dylan (HurricaneMaker99) 15:04, September 18, 2017 (UTC)
 * This is the most amazing storm of the season thus far, for being a fishspinner and RI-ing way beyond initial forecasts. This is likely getting my highest possible grade. Anyway, a bit surprised that this powered down so quickly. It was fun while it lasted though. ~ <font face="Impact"> Steve   Talk Page  My Edits  📧  16:31, September 18, 2017 (UTC)

Well, it's a forecast defier, so yeah, I agree. This is an amazing storm. What a run, Otis. Latest advisory is just like Norma above: 40 mph, 1005 mbars, and expected to dissipate in a day or two. Anonymous 2.0 (talk) 02:53, September 19, 2017 (UTC)

The only other EPAC storm I can think of that defied forecasts more than Otis, was Genevieve from 2014 (3 years ago already, hard to believe.) This was a pleasant surprise indeed. Leeboy100 Beware Maria's Fury. 10:30, September 19, 2017 (UTC)

Post-Tropical Cyclone Otis
A recent update puts Otis as Post-Tropical. Goodbye Otis! It was nice seeing you btw. Hurricanes, hurricanes, hurricanes!-68.106.0.77 14:39, September 19, 2017 (UTC)
 * Farewell to an awesome storm. :) ~ <font face="Impact"> Steve   Talk Page  My Edits  📧  18:15, September 19, 2017 (UTC)

Farewell, Otis! You were an awesome storm. Leeboy100 Beware Maria's Fury. 18:58, September 19, 2017 (UTC)

AOI: Middle of Nowhere
10/20. (This AOI is actually very far away from Baja, to be honest.) Anonymous 2.0 (talk) 14:21, September 13, 2017 (UTC)


 * Down to 0/10 and development is doubtful. "Middle of Nowhere" is a better location for this AOI :P ~ <font face="Impact"> Steve   Talk Page  My Edits  📧  23:06, September 14, 2017 (UTC)


 * Gone from the TWO. Anonymous 2.0 (talk) 04:11, September 15, 2017 (UTC)

Back on the TWO at 10/10. I think this is the same system as it has only been a few days and it's in a very similar location. ~ <font face="Impact"> Steve   Talk Page  My Edits  📧  00:19, September 18, 2017 (UTC)
 * Again gone from the TWO. Anonymous 2.0 (talk) 02:55, September 19, 2017 (UTC)

AOI: South of Southeastern Mexico
On the 5-day outlook at 0/20. Pilar anyone? ~ <font face="Impact"> Steve   Talk Page  My Edits  📧  00:21, September 18, 2017 (UTC)


 * Now 0/40. ~ <font face="Impact"> Steve   Talk Page  My Edits  📧  16:31, September 18, 2017 (UTC)
 * 10/60, I think this will become Pilar. Hurricanes, hurricanes, hurricanes!-68.106.0.77 14:34, September 19, 2017 (UTC)
 * 30/80. Hurricanes, hurricanes, hurricanes!-68.106.0.77 14:38, September 20, 2017 (UTC)
 * 50/80, but still not invested. Southern Mexico is facing heavy rain and likely flooding over the next several days. I hope none of this is deadly, especially after the country got hit hard by a 7.1 earthquake that killed 225. Mexico has been through enough. ~ <font face="Impact"> Steve   Talk Page  My Edits  📧  04:48, September 21, 2017 (UTC)

98E.INVEST
Jumped right to 80/90 and got invested. Hurricanes, hurricanes, hurricanes! -68.106.0.77 23:52, September 22, 2017 (UTC)


 * 90/90, and still keeping us waiting (and thus focused on the Atlantic). ~ KN2731 {talk} 15:06, September 23, 2017 (UTC)
 * 100/100, Pilar is coming. Hurricanes, hurricanes, hurricanes! -68.106.0.77 17:52, September 23, 2017 (UTC)


 * Get ready for advisories to be initiated at 2 PM PDT (most likely). ~ <font face="Impact"> Steve   Talk Page  My Edits  📧  18:04, September 23, 2017 (UTC)

Tropical Storm Pilar
Shocked that nobody updated this. There are TCs in places outside of the Atlantic, you know. 😐 Anyway, this is going to pass really close to Jalisco and Nayarit and likely landfall in Jalisco. I hope it doesn't cause major flooding or anything like that. ~ <font face="Impact"> Steve   Talk Page  My Edits  📧  05:40, September 24, 2017 (UTC)


 * It'll make landfall in Mexico moments after. Hurricanes, hurricanes, hurricanes!-68.106.0.77 06:12, September 24, 2017 (UTC)

Hopefully Pilar won't be too bad for Mexico...we have a tendency to pay the most attention to the Atlantic forum, but meh. Ryan1000 06:40, September 24, 2017 (UTC)


 * The low-level center appears to be reforming westwards, so landfall may not actually happen. Heavy rains and possible flooding and landslides will still occur though. ~ KN2731 {talk} 09:32, September 24, 2017 (UTC)
 * Pilar just to the west of Mexico. Mexico feels the winds from Pilar and Pilar bring heavy rain to them. Hurricanes, hurricanes, hurricanes! -68.106.0.77 19:06, September 24, 2017 (UTC)


 * Really hope this is not too bad. Mexico has been through more than enough recently with the earthquakes, and to a lesser extent, Katia, Lidia and Max. At least Franklin wasn't deadly. ~ <font face="Impact"> Steve   Talk Page  My Edits  📧  03:11, September 25, 2017 (UTC)

Remnants of Pilar
And it's decreased. No deaths have been reported yet, and damages are unknown. ~ <font face="Impact"> Steve   Talk Page  My Edits  📧  21:08, September 25, 2017 (UTC)

AOI: Southwest of Hawaii
10/10 on the CPHC outlook. I have doubts that this will happen, but I hope it becomes Walaka, as we haven't had a single CPac named storm this year. ~ <font face="Impact"> Steve   Talk Page  My Edits  📧  04:52, September 21, 2017 (UTC)
 * Unfortunately it's gone. ~ KN2731 {talk} 15:07, September 23, 2017 (UTC)

AOI: Near El Salvador
New AOI. 10/30. Anonymous 2.0 (talk) 00:25, September 23, 2017 (UTC)


 * This could be a brief Ramon since it has only a few days before it moves into Central America. The EPac has been very active this year. Can't believe we're already almost on the "P" storm and could be up to "R" as soon as early next week. ~ <font face="Impact"> Steve   Talk Page  My Edits  📧  18:07, September 23, 2017 (UTC)
 * 20/40 now. ~ <font face="Impact"> Steve   Talk Page  My Edits  📧  05:42, September 24, 2017 (UTC)


 * 30/40. With regards to the EPac being active, it's been pretty substandard in terms of ACE; we're still below 100 units with 16 storms, though the average for that number is about 120 units. ~ KN2731 {talk} 09:39, September 24, 2017 (UTC)
 * Probably because of the hurricanes in the Atlantic, I think. The ACE in the Atlantic this year so far is just above 175 units (176.375 to be exact). Hurricanes, hurricanes, hurricanes! -68.106.0.77 16:07, September 24, 2017 (UTC)

Still 30/40. This might only be a TD at most, but Ramon might still be possible from this storm if it rapidly organizes. ~ <font face="Impact"> Steve   Talk Page  My Edits  📧  03:15, September 25, 2017 (UTC)


 * Dropped to 30/30. Hurricanes, hurricanes, hurricanes! -68.106.0.77 14:30, September 25, 2017 (UTC)


 * Down to 20/20. I'm really doubting development now. The NHC also states that hostile upper-level winds are in the region. Ramon will have to wait. ~ <font face="Impact"> Steve   Talk Page  My Edits  📧  21:09, September 25, 2017 (UTC)


 * Plummeted to 10/10. I really, really doubt it would form. Hurricanes, hurricanes, hurricanes! -68.106.0.77 23:47, September 25, 2017 (UTC)


 * And it's gone. Anonymous 2.0 (talk) 08:35, September 26, 2017 (UTC)

99E.INVEST
10/20 and already invested. Doesn't appear that this is the same as the above AOI. Maybe this could be Ramon! ~ <font face="Impact"> Steve   Talk Page  My Edits  📧  18:01, September 26, 2017 (UTC)


 * 20/20 and has very limited time to develop. ~ <font face="Impact"> Steve   Talk Page  My Edits  📧  00:26, September 27, 2017 (UTC)


 * And it's dead. ~ <font face="Impact"> Steve   Talk Page  My Edits  📧  03:32, September 28, 2017 (UTC)