Forum:Hurricane Talk/1

My Personal Opinion
What caused this freak to be christined? Was the Atlantic in December 2003 acting like June and become a threshold for TC's? I think that this is a storm that should be well talked about. Link:TS Peter (2003) (I made this article BTW) Sincerely, Hurricane Andrew (aka User: Andrew444) 01:52, August 5, 2011 (UTC)
 * Hmm...conditions were favorable, seeing that 2003 had 7 hurricanes and an ACE of 150+...CobraStrike (t)(b)(c) 19:05, August 12, 2011 (UTC)
 * When you think about it, December and June are the same distance from the peak of the season..2 months to August and 2 months from October, just in December the shear and dry air are less favourable but the SST's are higher. Yqt1001 19:42, August 12, 2011 (UTC)

Tropical Storm Omeka (2010)
Is this unusual or is it normal?Cyclone10 01:29, August 28, 2011 (UTC)
 * Its unusual for forming far out, but some other storms did it as well. What was so unusual was that it formed so late it the midst of a strong La Nina. CobraStrike (t)(b)(c) 01:32, August 28, 2011 (UTC)
 * It was unusual because it transition from a subtropical cyclone.Cyclone10 18:43, August 28, 2011 (UTC)

Tropical Storm Zeta (2005)
Making it down to Zeta was pretty much an accomplishment for the 2005 season. But why December into January 2006? Is that too weird? (I already know about Alice -_-) STO12 (talk) 00:02, October 12, 2012 (UTC)

Zeta was the first time in recorded history that an Atlantic system had advisories in two calendar years (Alice wasn't operationally disovered until January 2, 1955). But it's not too weird for the NHem. It's happened in the WPac quite a few times (Soulik 2000, Vamei 2001, Mary 1977, and a few more). But this event has not been reliably detected in the EPac, CPac, or NIO. Andrew Talk To Me  Contribs  Mail Me  11:39, October 12, 2012 (UTC)

Great Lakes
I was thinking about it, but are the great lakes possible to sustain tropical/sub-tropical cyclone development? The SST's right now are hot enough to sustain a category 2 hurricane and are roughly the same temperature Hurricane Vince (2005) formed on. The size of Lake Huron is more than enough for a storm like TS Marco to fit in, and the temperatures more than enough to support a TS...A cyclone in 1996 that looked like a tropical cyclone, might have been indeed a hurricane on the great lakes..but there is no info on whether this was a polar low or a suptropical cyclone. So what do you guys think? Should any tropical like waves in the great lakes be watched by the NHC for possible TC development or are these freak events polar lows? Also, what do you guys think the 1996 cyclone was? Sub-tropical or polar? Yqt1001 19:40, August 12, 2011 (UTC)
 * Yqt1001, I'm not sure what to say about the cyclone. The link you provided only has one satellite image. It would be nice if there is a collection of images or a satellite imagery video. Also, lake Huron is far too north to have tropical waves form. There would have to be a tropical transition from an extratropical cyclone, and I'm not too sure there would be enough time for a fully tropical transition to occur before the storm would hit land. Suprise11 21:08, August 12, 2011 (UTC)
 * Extratropical transition would automatically occur, preventing cyclonegenesis. If a storm were to attempt to form, either the jet stream would eat it up, or it would just go weee and into Canada by way of strong winds. CobraStrike (t)(b)(c) 00:48, August 13, 2011 (UTC)
 * The Great Lakes is not be a great place for TCs, but they do make a pretty great place for extratropical and Subtropical cyclones. This just reminds me of 96.INVEST from Mid-August. Cyclone10 21:47, August 27, 2011 (UTC)

Mediterranean Sea
Have you ever heard "Italy" and "hurricane" in the same sentence, or maybe "Libya" and "cyclone?" Obviously, it's a very rare phonomena that occurs only 2 times a decade, according to a few sites. However, most "Mediterranean cyclones" in the books are not true storms, having a warm cores like those in subtropical storms. Understanding the European/African storm is currently a roadblock for a few meteorologists, while the subject remains unbeknownst to others. Are these cyclones a product of climate change, or is it just a recurring event? To the right is a depiction of Med. Hurricane tracks during the winter season, of which were published in Crotia's case file of the 2005 Genoa Cyclone. So, what's your take on Med. Cyclones? CobraStrike (t)(b)(c) 02:10, August 13, 2011 (UTC)


 * The SST's are warm enough to produce tropical cyclones during the northern hemisphere tropical cyclone season. The reason why they are rare is because there are no tropical waves in the Mediterranean. There has to be tropical transitions (from extratropical cyclones; read my comment in the previous section) to have tropical cyclones form. The potential storms often do not have enough time to transition because of land interaction in addition to other unfavorable conditions. Cyclones tend to be more common here than the great lakes (although both are debatable) because there is more water. Concerning another question, I think there is not enough evidence to conclude if these are a product of climate change since we've had satellite imagery for only about 40 years, while the Earth has been here for much longer and has cyclic patterns. Suprise11 02:47, August 13, 2011 (UTC)
 * It has happened now! TS 01M is near Italy. Cyclone10 Talk  Contributions  20:53, November 7, 2011 (UTC)

Alaska Tropical Cyclones
Been thinking about these. No tropical cyclone has ever made landfall there, altough the 1975 hurricane came close (and by close, I mean by 300 miles), and Hurricane Ioke's remants affected the state. The reason is because of the cold waters that kill cyclones. What are your opinions on these rare cyclones? Hurricane Andrew (444) 22:25, August 13, 2011 (UTC)
 * Well, the 1975 hurricane came close to the southernmost part of Alaska. However, it didn't affect the state. The only systems that did at anything but extratropical strength hit the Aleutian Islands, the usual place where a WPAC Japan curving hurricane makes its last ordeal. The storm that approached nearest to the Alaskan mainland was Gordon 1982, but it did so at who-knows what strength. Other than the 1975 hurricane, the only other storm that got close to Alaska at any strength but extratropical was an "unamed 1966 tropical storm" that got close as a TD. CobraStrike (t)(b)(c) 00:31, August 16, 2011 (UTC)


 * There's also TS Virginia from 1968. Cyclone10 E-Mail  02:28, June 23, 2012 (UTC)

How to Decide if a Storm is an Invest or Not
Many people on the forums like to jump at every AOI and call it an invest. No, that is not how you do it. To confirm whether a storm is an invest or not, first check with the Navy/NRL Tropical Cyclone Page since they are the ones who decide the invest. Then check with the Wunderground Tropics Page and finally, check with CIMSS, CobraStrike (t)(b)(c) 17:55, August 16, 2011 (UTC)
 * Does that apply to the WPac? That would be really nice. Cyclone10 19:20, August 27, 2011 (UTC)
 * Yes, it applies to every basin with the exception of the Southern Hemisphere Season. CobraStrike (t)(b)(c) 19:47, August 27, 2011 (UTC)
 * I thought it applies for every basin in the world, even including SAtl. Cyclone10 21:50, August 27, 2011 (UTC)
 * Hold on let me check. CobraStrike (t)(b)(c) 21:58, August 27, 2011 (UTC)
 * It does for every basin.10'Q.'INVEST 03:03, October 25, 2011 (UTC)

The 130 mph Hurricane
I have never seen a 130 mph hurricane in my life. They've either been 125 or 135 mph, never right at the 130 mark. Is there a reason for this or is it that they're just 'rare'? CobraStrike (t)(b)(c) 22:24, September 6, 2011 (UTC)
 * NHC uses knots as the official intensity. Because of the fact that 1 kts = 1.25 mph (not too sure about the exact conversion) there are a few missing numbers. In this case it is a bit different, it has more to deal with the SSHWS. 115 knots is 132mph, rounded down to 130mph however category 4 is 131mph-156mph (if that SSHWS change got approved) so it becomes 135mph. Katia's max intensity was 115kts/130mph but she officially peaked at 135mph. I believe 130mph is used in the EPac though and 135mph is replaced with 140mph. 55mph is also not used because 50 knots = ~58mph or 60mph and 45 knots = ~52mph or 50mph. I believe the only time I saw 55mph used was in the EPac where Beatriz had one advisory at 55mph. Yqt1001 22:44, September 6, 2011 (UTC)


 * These are the new category changes. Category 3 - 111-129 mph Category 4 - 130-156 mph and Category 5 - 157mph + &mdash;13R.KIEWII 21:16, January 8, 2012 (UTC)

Hall of Lame
Ok, there is a hall of fame for cool hurricanes, what about a hall of lame for hurricanes that fail? I mean, like Don and rina? Who here agrees? 188.223.248.201 19:39, October 4, 2012 (UTC)

Sure. Storms like Lee '05, Emily '99, Karen '95, Cindy '11, Gert '11, Fernanda '11, Blas '10, Karina '08, or Ingrid '07 could all go there. Andrew Talk To Me  Contribs  Mail Me  00:18, October 5, 2012 (UTC)

Okay! Great suggestions! So... let's all start putting down storms! (just put down storms for the hall of lame!) ok ppl!! Whatcha'll think of ma nommyz? mine are bolded atm. Just add more to the list XD 188.223.248.201 16:36, October 5, 2012 (UTC)
 * lee 05
 * emily 99
 * karen 95
 * blas 10
 * karina 08 (not katrina 05)
 * 'grid 07
 * cindy 11
 * gert 11
 * 'nanda 11
 * jose 11
 * frankie 11
 * bret 11
 * don 11
 * sean 11
 * john 12
 * kristy 12
 * 'leana 12
 * Jerry '07
 * Melissa '07
 * Laura '08
 * Nana '08
 * Gaston '10
 * Enrique '09
 * Estelle '10

I wouldn't call Sean an epic fail since it did kill someone in Bermuda. Andrew Talk To Me  Contribs  Mail Me 23:52, October 5, 2012 (UTC) Ok 188.223.248.201 19:05, October 6, 2012 (UTC)

Wordsearch
Ok, this is a 2013 AHS Wordsearch. You must try to find all the 2013 Atlantic Hurricane names in this wordsearch. After that, please, pretty please. Tell us which names you found!! :D And tell me what was special about this wordsearch thanks! ' MORE GAMES SOON! ' 188.223.248.201 19:30, October 4, 2012 (UTC)