Forum:2017 Atlantic hurricane season/Irma

AOI: Tropical Wave Over Western Africa
This one is about to emerge from Africa into the Atlantic. It's at 0/20. Pray for Texas...-68.106.0.77 18:45, August 26, 2017 (UTC)


 * This could be Jose assuming 92L finally develops into Irma before that one merges with a cold front mid-week. I have a feeling that something formidable could come from this wave. ~  Steve   Talk Page  My Edits  📧  22:06, August 26, 2017 (UTC)


 * Lmao GFS has a Category 3-4 striking near me in Atlantic Canada in 2 weeks time with this system. I mean this is my reaction:  XD (Still too far out to predict with any accuracy but I mean wtf... --Whiplash (talk) 05:27, August 27, 2017 (UTC)


 * Always felt the name Jose would one day be used for something ominous, even though the 2011 one was that pathetic naked swirl. If this verifies, we have another monster hurricane setting its sites on the East Coast and Atlantic Canada long term. But I would say personally this wave is beginning to already have rotation over Africa and with the way the ridge is building, it sounds more like an Ike situation actually. I hope I'm wrong, that's the last thing the US would need after Harvey but it's also only August and the waters are warm. Owen 05:33, August 27, 2017 (UTC)


 * Or this could be Irma instead, depending on 92L's fluctuating formation chances. If that's the case, we might see the continuation of the "I" curse this year. Anonymous 2.0 (talk) 12:55, August 27, 2017 (UTC)


 * Oh well, this will become Jose (if it doesn't go bust just like the AOI above). Anonymous 2.0 (talk) 21:55, August 27, 2017 (UTC)


 * Really feel that this will be ominous. It has got a lot of ocean along the future path. Hope it is nothing devastating in the very long run. If an "Ike situation" that Owen said materializes, it could even reach the same area as Harvey which is totally not acceptable. P.S. I once made a prediction on Hypothetical Hurricanes Wiki about "Jose" being an extremely deadly and destructive system. It is here. That prediction is very, very unrealistic. But in an "Ike situation", I kind of fear that future "Jose" could actually take a similar path to that prediction (but likely not going into Mexico). ~  Steve   Talk Page  My Edits  📧  00:38, August 28, 2017 (UTC)
 * The GFS takes this meandering over the central Atlantic over the next week or two without affecting land, but the Euro takes this heading WNW north of the Antilles and potentially hitting south Florida as a strong major hurricane in two weeks; if a cat 4 or 5 comes into Miami it would easily exceed Katrina's damage total as the costliest U.S. hurricane ever, due to the immense amount of property directly along the southeastern Florida coastline. Ryan1000 01:34, August 28, 2017 (UTC)
 * Now at 0/40. Hi!-68.106.0.77 01:44, August 28, 2017 (UTC)
 * This one very unfortunately looking more and more like a potential Ike situation or even Andrew situation. I believe with Ike's path inititally model runs took the hurricane into Miami. God forbid, imagine it went into Miami and into New Orleans or a setup to where a trough could bring this thing to the northeast after crossing into the GOM taking it into Tampa (my city I live in, and most overdue city right now for a hurricane strike) which I just don't want to think of potential scenarios with this especially after Harvey. But what we are seeing here is a formula for the most destructive season since 2005, and the potential for Harvey and what would be Jose to be the costliest hurricanes on record (both in a single season). Hope I'm wrong. Owen 10:29, August 28, 2017 (UTC)

93L.INVEST
Up to 30/70 and invested. I really don't like what the ECMWF is showing right now. At least the GFS makes this a fish. (Random horrible thought: if this strikes Florida or the Carolinas 2 weeks out on 11 September we may have one of the worst coincidences in US history. Actually why am I even thinking of this.) ~ KN2731 {talk} 13:57, August 28, 2017 (UTC)


 * The models were agressive with Harvey before it formed, then they backed off until the runs that took it into Texas days before, and if the Euro nails this one and it does hit the east coast a monster hurricane, then Harvey, as damaging as he is, may be rivaled himself. I know it's 10 days out but this season is definitely ramping up and with the position of the Bermuda high and active Cape Verde waves, we may have a string of damaging storms hitting the U.S. this year. Ryan1000 14:28, August 28, 2017 (UTC)

As NHC is now saying that 92L may not develop into a TS, well I think we might see a continuation of the "I" curse this year. Maybe Irma dodged it when 4L did not become strong enough to become Don (thus making 9L receive the name Harvey), but if PTC Ten/92L won't develop, I guess Irma can also be destructive (especially if it hits land). I hope that this system will stay in the open Atlantic though. Anonymous 2.0 (talk) 21:18, August 28, 2017 (UTC)


 * I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but the GFS has been tracking farther west towards the U.S. and Atlantic Canada as well, or at least hitting Bermuda as a strong hurricane. All of the latest runs from the Euro make this a cat 4/5 pointed at south Florida, and the HWRF also expects this to be strong and heading towards Florida in the long run as well. It may be a long way out but it's something to watch out for. Up to 50/80 and it could become a depression as soon as tomorrow. Ryan1000 00:54, August 29, 2017 (UTC)

Please, please no. Harvey is bad enough. A Cat 5 hitting South Florida would be just as bad. This season is starting to scare the crap out of me. Leeboy100 Beware Harvey's fury. 01:27, August 29, 2017 (UTC)


 * As I mentioned earlier in Harvey's section, the United States's luck with no major hurricanes was bound to end some day. Harvey will hopefully be a reminder that worse will come our way in the next few decades. Moreover, given how active the MDR has been this year (case in point Bret, Don, and Harvey), I am not surprised that the models are going crazy with this system. This is almost like 2004, which started off very quiet but soon produced long-lived beasts, namely Frances and Ivan. Chances of formation for Invest 93L are now 50% for the next 48 hours and 80% for the next five days. Steve, as I commented previously, you seem to have some good fortune-telling skills with this season. On a side note, while we are talking about devastating storms, let me repeat an infamous saying that SkyFury would always say at this time of the year: BEWARE THE FIRST STORM OF SEPTEMBER! Andrew  Talk To Me  Contribs  Mail Me  02:07, August 29, 2017 (UTC)
 * If only SkyFury can finally return someday. lol. Anyhow, this is very likely to continue the "I" curse because PTC 10 is being the most massive disappointment ever.
 * BEWARE THE "I" OF THE STORM!!!!!!!!!  ~  Steve    Talk Page  My Edits  📧  04:24, August 29, 2017 (UTC)
 * I'm hoping this storm will continue the "I" curse. Ida and Ian from 2015 and 2016 respectively were weak and haven't caused any impacts on land. Hi!-68.106.0.77 04:54, August 29, 2017 (UTC)

And it's now 70/90. This will most likely become Irma. Anonymous 2.0 (talk) 11:55, August 29, 2017 (UTC)
 * I miss Eric... fwiw though, assuming this becomes Irma, then we'll probably have to wait until Jose to see the first storm of September, since it's looking increasingly likely that this will develop before the end of August (though the adage still applies to systems which form as depressions in August, but don't become named storms until September — Felix is one such example). --Dylan (HurricaneMaker99) 15:16, August 29, 2017 (UTC)


 * Invest 93L is presently located near the Cabo Verde islands, and it may bring some heavy rainfall there, as noted in the latest NHC TWO. However, the most significant impacts will likely occur further west if the system develops and sustains itself. Andrew  Talk To Me  Contribs  Mail Me  16:57, August 29, 2017 (UTC)
 * The GFS and HWRF have backed off on the intensity of this invest recently, but the Euro is still very agressive in the long-range intensity of this thing. However, the latest run of the Euro has pulled this a bit to the north in the last bit, so this may eventually make landfall north of Florida, but unless it remains out at sea, it would mean bad news elsewhere for where this does hit. Ryan1000 20:38, August 29, 2017 (UTC)
 * Actually, scratch that, the GFS is now on the bandwagon with the Euro, showing a major hurricane hitting south Florida over 10 days out. A long ways, yes, but after Harvey, we need to keep a very close eye on these heart-of-season storms. Ryan1000 01:25, August 30, 2017 (UTC)
 * Now 90/90. PTC or TD 11 is coming (soon Irma). Get ready for the "I" storm! Hi!-68.106.0.77 05:43, August 30, 2017 (UTC)

100/100, NHC say advisories will most likely be initiated at 11am EDT. Kiewii 11:34, August 30, 2017 (UTC)

Tropical Storm Irma
NHC have confirmed advisories will begin on 93L at 11am EDT, and ATCF says it is already up to 40kts/1006, marking the development of Tropical Storm Irma for the first time ever in the Atlantic. Kiewii 13:01, August 30, 2017 (UTC)


 * Looks like this could be a replay of the "I" curse. All depends on the track of this thing. Looks like will be a major at some point no matter whether it is a fish or something that impacts the U.S. --Whiplash (talk) 13:17, August 30, 2017 (UTC)
 * Come on Irma, continue the "I" curse! Hi!-68.106.0.77 14:22, August 30, 2017 (UTC)
 * She's here. 50 mph on first advisory already. Looks like will be a hurricane before too long. --Whiplash (talk) 14:55, August 30, 2017 (UTC)


 * And she's forecast to hit 90 mph in 120 hours. May affect the Antilles adversely though. Anonymous 2.0 (talk) 15:10, August 30, 2017 (UTC)
 * This is looking highly threatening in the long run. Irma kind of reminds me of a somewhat more northerly version of Ivan (don't know if this will be a C5 though). BEWARE THE "I" OF THE STORM!!!!!!!!! ~  Steve   Talk Page  My Edits  📧  16:33, August 30, 2017 (UTC)
 * I think Irma is going to become our second major hurricane of the season. She along with Harvey are really going to bring back up our ACE totals. And Kiewii, that's actually not true. The name Irma has been used before, and the last time it was used was back in 1978 before the new naming list. Owen 18:33, August 30, 2017 (UTC)
 * Yeah, Irma was previously used in the 1978 Atlantic hurricane season before the modern lists which began in 1979, and it was also used to name quite a few typhoons on the old WPac naming lists, and two SHem storms back in 1967 and 1987. But onto this Irma, the early portion of it's track is reminicent of Ike's in 2008, it's expected to move WNW, but the Bermuda High is expected to strengthen and force Irma west-southwest later on, and if that materializes, this could be a very severe storm for the northeastern Lesser Antilles in the long run, and if the ridge stays strong, Irma might storm through the Bahamas and crush south Florida like the Euro has been consistently showing. However, the GFS has backed off again on that and turns it northward and out to sea later on, though they were on board with the Euro earlier. Ryan1000 22:42, August 30, 2017 (UTC)

Now NHC takes this near the Lesser Antilles as a major. Looks like the "I" curse will continue this year. Anonymous 2.0 (talk) 03:17, August 31, 2017 (UTC)


 * Intensity on 65 mph/999 mbar. The last hurricane to be infected by the "I" curse was Ingrid in 2013. Hi!-68.106.0.77 04:58, August 31, 2017 (UTC)
 * Yep, this will be the first storm since Ingrid to be cursed by the "I". This could be a hurricane by tomorrow, and the NHC now forecasts a major. Irma scares me. The Lesser Antilles are doomed to take a massive beating from Irma. And the very long run is even more concerning. A potential U.S. strike in Florida or the Gulf Coast is very possible if the ridge stays strong; if not, an Irene repeat in that it strikes the east coast could occur. The uncertainty for the very long run is great. Now, I'm going to make the adage a little less spammy (in case you were wondering, I didn't create the adage, Leeboy did back in 2015 - see archives on Ida). And I am going to use it every time I post about this storm in hopes that this adage will hold up and become popular among Hurricane Wikia users. Beware the I of the storm!!!!! ~  Steve   Talk Page  My Edits  📧  05:08, August 31, 2017 (UTC)
 * One thing I also didn't notice until further research was that Irma formed in the same area as Hurricane Donna did on August 29, 1960. Irma was born a day later than that 57 years later on August 30, 2017. The early path looks similar and the possibility of C4/C5 exists with Irma, and Donna herself accomplished C5. Donna was a major hurricane that ended up making landfall around Naples and rode up the East Coast to the northeast. I don't have a great feeling, could Tampa, the most overdue city for a hurricane be the next one to be devastated by a hurricane this year? Quite possibly - I, living in Tampa, am a bit concerned. Like the United States' drought for a major hurricane, the Tampa shield is going to break soon. Not only that, but the interaction with the expected future Jose in the Gom and a cut off low from a meteorological perspective could be epic. Most importantly, as Irma, treks across the Greater Antilles that's a lot of real estate and threatening to lives. Irma means business. Owen 07:48, August 31, 2017 (UTC)
 * Actually Owen, Donna was downgraded to a cat 4 at its peak in the hurricane reanalysis project earlier this year. Ethel of 1960 also suffered a major intensity nerf to minimal cat 3 in reanalysis. But there's a possibility that Irma might become a cat 5 in the long run, and if the Euro projections verify, then it looks like Irma will end a long drought for the Miami area, and a repeat of the 1926 hurricane, if Irma pulls that off (god firbid it), would rival or even exceed the 160 billion damage estimate from Harvey, which in of itself was much worse than if a repeat of the mighty 1900 hurricane for Houston and Galveston happened today. All that aside, Irma has strengthened slightly, and is now up to 65 mph/999 mbars. She may become a hurricane later today. Ryan1000 08:42, August 31, 2017 (UTC)
 * Up to 70 mph and 997 mbars, forecast now calls for a fairly powerful cat 3 approaching the northern Lessers down the road. Ryan1000 12:30, August 31, 2017 (UTC)

Hurricane Irma
Wow! We have a quickly intensifying hurricane on our hands (Category 2 already). I'm quite surprised. This one has plenty of time to intensify further, and if Irma becomes a Category 5 at any point in her life like I think she could, it will be the first time we have back-to-back seasons with a five since 2004/2005. Owen 14:51, August 31, 2017 (UTC)

Oh my God, Irma just exploded. This is scary. Leeboy100 Beware Harvey's fury. 14:55, August 31, 2017 (UTC)


 * Wow, I didn't expect such rapid strengthening. This just skipped C1 status completely. ~ KN2731 {talk} 14:59, August 31, 2017 (UTC) UPDATE: This isn't looking good for the Lesser Antilles and the US East Coast in the long run as Irma has been moving south of what current guidance is suggesting, which continues to trend further southward. The NHC shows a C4 approaching the Lesser Antilles at the end of the week. ~ KN2731 {talk} 15:04, August 31, 2017 (UTC)
 * Woah, I didn't expect Irma to intensify this fast, it completely skipped category 1 intensity and became a cat 2, I've never seen a storm do that before. Unless the storm entrains some dry air over the next day or two (which hasn't hindered Irma as much as the NHC initially expected), this might become a cat 5 before hitting the upper Lesser Antilles. They haven't seen a strong major hurricane since Lenny in November 1999, which approached from the southwest in the Caribbean; Georges the year before Lenny was the last major cape-verde type storm to hit the upper Lessers. The strengthening ridge also poses a problem, especially if it can stay strong while Irma heads westward, because that puts the U.S. eastern seaboard much more at risk. The Euro has trended from a cat 5 landfall in Miami southward to a major hurricane tearing through Hispaniola and Cuba before moving into the GoM. The GFS still doesn't expect the ridge to strengthen as much as the NHC expects, but they do make Irma an 898 mbar cat 5 coming dangerously close to Bermuda and later moving straight north into New England, so either way, Irma is a storm to watch out for. Ryan1000 16:36, August 31, 2017 (UTC)

This is already looking like a major hurricane. Since the advisories are being issued every 6 hours instead of 3, is it possible that in the next advisory Irma will be a Category 4? Once again skipping a status? Leeboy100 Beware Harvey's fury. 16:25, August 31, 2017 (UTC)


 * Irma is continuing to strengthen. She really is trying to take off and pull a Julia 2010, but boy, she is going to be much more of an ACE generator. Owen 18:11, August 31, 2017 (UTC)
 * See here ! Hurricane Irma can be seen in Bahamas with another behind... Owen 19:13, August 31, 2017 (UTC)


 * Oh my... I am beyond frightened. Is Irma trying to pull off a Julia?! This could become a massive ACE maker, potentially along the lines of Ivan (2004) by the time Irma dissipates. I can't believe that we are getting these big, dangerous monsters all of a sudden. This is likely going to be the worst and most damaging year since 2005. It is forecast to be a major through the whole 5-day forecast and at this point, I might be surprised if Irma fails to become a C5 with all the favorable enough conditions ahead. Cooler waters and dry air should stop Irma before early next week, when favorable conditions return and it just gets beyond frightening from there. Stay tuned everyone, this could become as damaging as Harvey and extremely deadly once its dissipation day comes. I knew the early MDR tropical storms would mean something... this season is really scaring me. Beware the I of the storm!!!!! ~  Steve   Talk Page  My Edits  📧  19:48, August 31, 2017 (UTC)

Major Hurricane Irma
30 hours after it formed. Amazing. 100 kts/967 mbar per the latest advisory, 10-9-4-2. Even if Irma never affects land (we can only hope), it looks "I" curse is well and truly back in effect. --Dylan (HurricaneMaker99) 20:36, August 31, 2017 (UTC)

Wow. If Irma keeps strengthening at this rate, I'll be very surprised if it doesn't become a Category 5. Leeboy100 Beware Harvey's fury. 20:45, August 31, 2017 (UTC)

Category 4 is already in the NHC forecast...just as it starts reaching inhabited islands.12.144.5.2 21:05, August 31, 2017 (UTC)

Rapid intensification begins. Meanwhile, media predicts Harvey will cost more than Katrina. Puffle •  Talk  Blog  21:45, August 31, 2017 (UTC)

So, Irma is now scaring me personally. One of the models (I forget which one, maybe the Euro?) takes Irma close to where I live, if not, directly hitting where I live. Now, I live in a part of Florida where hurricanes are quite common, and we have gotten a few big ones, like Ivan. The problem is it's been 12 years since a hurricane has made a direct hit in this area, it was Dennis, in case you're wondering. This scares me, because the population of where I live has grown dramatically since 2005. So, I don't know how everyone will fare in this storm, with a lot of people living here who've never experienced a hurricane before. Heck, I don't know how I'd prepare for a direct hit. I barely even remember what it's like to see a powerful storm slowly moving towards you, although I do vividly remember the aftermath of Ivan and Dennis. No matter where it hits though, Irma is looking bad, and season is really starting to scare me. Leeboy100 Thinking of Texas. 00:46, September 1, 2017 (UTC)


 * Already a Category 3 hurricane, Irma is a little scary to watch as it will potentially continue to RI into a Category 5. Hi!-68.106.0.77 02:10, September 1, 2017 (UTC)
 * Latest advisory has lowered the intensity forecast (though still ends with 140 mph winds).12.144.5.2 02:54, September 1, 2017 (UTC)
 * Latest advisory said that Irma's RI phase is over... for now. We may still see our next C5 from this storm. I hope the Antilles are prepared for this. Anonymous 2.0 (talk) 03:09, September 1, 2017 (UTC)

Hurricane Irma (2nd time)
She is currently undergoing an ERC so intensity is down to 95/972, expected to weaken slightly further, and no longer forecast to reach Category 4 strength within the next five days. Kiewii 14:54, September 1, 2017 (UTC)




 * It's not out of the question though, as conditions will become favorable again by that time, so the Lessers should still watch out. Ryan1000 18:51, September 1, 2017 (UTC)
 * Whom I now refer to as Insane Irma is looking good again! To be a major hurricane out in that region is impressive enough, but the fact that Irma won't be heading into the subtropics or for an early recurve really makes this interesting. If Irma is strengthening again, she could possibly become a Cat 4 east of 40W, on a westwardly track toward some sort of land area. Nothing like that has ever happened. Irma has the biggest potential to become the strongest storm the Atlantic has ever seen. I don't think that will happen, but I'd bet on it becoming a Cat 5 and being able to stay there for a long time. To have a Cat 4 going west toward the US/Bahamas at its only at 40W.....the potential for this storm is baffling. Owen 19:33, September 1, 2017 (UTC)
 * The Euro has moved north from a Miami landfall in its latest runs, expecting Irma to eventually head into Georgia or the Carolinas as a large and powerful major hurricane down the road, while the GFS takes this north of the Antilles and then storming on a straight south-north rush into New England, particularly over Rhode Island or Massachusetts as a very powerful hurricane. It's still too soon to tell if Irma will hit the U.S. (there's still a decent possibility it may recurve east and out to sea; hopefully that happens, especially if the Antilles get hit by this), but the long-range potential U.S. landfalls from the global models are concerning, even at this point in time. EDIT: Also, according to Dr. Masters latest blog post, Irma is the earliest storm on record to become a major hurricane east of 35 degrees west and one of only five to do so since 1970; the others were Frances of 1980, Isaac of 2000, Fred of 2009 and Julia of 2010. Ryan1000 20:12, September 1, 2017 (UTC)

Major Hurricane Irma (2nd time)
"Well, that eyewall replacement cycle didn't last long." 105 kts/964 mbar. --Dylan (HurricaneMaker99) 20:59, September 1, 2017 (UTC)


 * Lol, I was about to quote that from Blake in the new forecast discussion, NHC's humor never dissapoints. :) Anyways, the forecast now shows Irma going up to cat 4 again, but it'll be a while, as it's moving over only marginally favorable conditions right now, some dry air to the northwest of the storm and SST's at only the minimum needed for hurricane formation should keep the intensity in check until it nears the upper Lessers next week. Ryan1000 21:24, September 1, 2017 (UTC)
 * I hope this one can intensify into a Category 4. Hurricanes, hurricanes, hurricanes!-68.106.0.77 23:32, September 1, 2017 (UTC)


 * 68...that's only provided Irma stays out to sea. We don't want to root for it if it's a threat to land. Unfortunately, the 18Z GFS hasn't made Irma's long-range track any more promising, they now forecast Irma to be a 948 mbar major hurricane directly hitting NYC in 216 hours. This is all still far out, but the GFS has been trending increasingly farther west towards a U.S. landfall, and the Euro is still taking it to a strong hurricane landfall somewhere along the southeast coast. Ryan1000 00:13, September 2, 2017 (UTC)


 * The new South Ferry subway station Sandy flooded into uselessness reopened in June,so maybe the tropical weather gods decided New York is due for another hit.12.144.5.2 01:38, September 2, 2017 (UTC)
 * And never mind, I hope it weakens instead. Pressure up to 967 mbar. Hurricanes, hurricanes, hurricanes!-68.106.0.77 05:54, September 2, 2017 (UTC)

Hurricane Irma (3rd time)
Welp, back down to cat 2, 110 mph/970 mbars. Forecast to go back up to a major again later on. Ryan1000 09:27, September 2, 2017 (UTC)


 * It's going to be a long week... Kiewii 09:45, September 2, 2017 (UTC)


 * The eye's clearing out again. Looks like Irma's going back up to C3 by the end of the hour. ~ KN2731 {talk} 14:38, September 2, 2017 (UTC)
 * Never mind. ~ KN2731 {talk} 15:01, September 2, 2017 (UTC)


 * Well, this storm is way more boring than I expected. T  G  2 0 1 7 15:08, September 2, 2017 (UTC)
 * Sigh. Who knows if it lasts for a couple of weeks... Hurricanes, hurricanes, hurricanes!-68.106.0.77 16:05, September 2, 2017 (UTC)
 * It's expected to rise back up to C4 strength (130 mph) when it passes north of the Lessers. I think this could become a fishspinner (hopefully), but the East Coast still has to watch out. I also agree that the continued fluctuating between C2 and C3 status is a bit frustrating. Everywhere along the East Coast (and maybe even Florida or the Lessers) should brace for impacts... Beware the I of the storm!!!!! ~  Steve   Talk Page  My Edits  📧  17:59, September 2, 2017 (UTC)
 * The GFS is becoming increasingly aggressive with this, the 18Z run from today now takes Irma down to an 878 mbar category 5 monster off the southeast coast before weakening to a 919 mbar category 5 hitting Virginia and the mid-Atlantic, god forbid a hurricane hit that area of the U.S. The latest run of the Euro recurves Irma offshore the U.S. east coast before it makes landfall (hopefully that happens), but they make this a powerful cat 4 hitting the upper lessers at the same time. The NHc forecast still makes Irma a cat 4, but narrowly missing the lessers to the north. However, due to Irma's very small size, a small deviation in her track can make the difference between devastation and no impacts at all to the islands; both of the models see Irma expanding after that before she approaches or eventually hits the U.S. east coast. Ryan1000 23:38, September 2, 2017 (UTC)
 * Has the unprecedented amount of hot air emanating from 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue affected the storm track?12.144.5.2 01:50, September 3, 2017 (UTC)

Irma going through another Eyewall Replacement Cycle. Isn't this like the third or fourth ERC Irma has gone through? I don't think I've ever seen a hurricane go through this many eyewall replacement cycles in such a short period of time. Leeboy100 Thinking of Texas. 03:44, September 3, 2017 (UTC)


 * Irma is making that southward jog that the NHC has been anticipating, and it appears to be getting better organized as conditions are becoming more favorable for it, although it's still expected to miss the islands to the north. In their forecast discussion, NHC also notes that while Irma may currently be a small hurricane, it could grow in size before it hits the upper lessers; if it doesn't, most of the models predict Irma will definitely grow in size afterwards. The latest GFS and Euro runs both make this a large and powerful cat 5 hitting North Carolina down the road. Ryan1000 08:15, September 3, 2017 (UTC)

Major Hurricane Irma (3rd time)
Again, another 5-knot increase, another new header. ~ KN2731 {talk} 09:10, September 3, 2017 (UTC)


 * Irma can't make up her mind, can she. :/ However, conditions are starting to get better for Irma by now, and it's WSW movement will continue for the next day or two before it turns WNW again. The 06Z GFS still makes it an enlarging, sub-900 mbar category 5 storm north of the Bahamas, and making a 900 mbar cat 5 landfall in southern North Carolina in about 8-9 days. If Irma hits NC at that intensity, it would be the strongest hurricane to ever hit North Carolina, and the northernmost cat 5 on record in the Atlantic. Ryan1000 11:45, September 3, 2017 (UTC)
 * NHC forecast says it will peak at 140mph winds,though,who has it hitting 156?12.144.5.2 17:07, September 3, 2017 (UTC)
 * Every time, it strengthens and then weakens and then it strengthens again. This one is getting boring to watch. Hurricanes, hurricanes, hurricanes!-68.106.0.77 19:41, September 3, 2017 (UTC)

Hurricane watch now in effect for the upper part of the Lessers. Latest NHC track says that Irma might impact the Bahamas later this week. Anonymous 2.0 (talk) 23:03, September 3, 2017 (UTC) HMON model today.

Intermediate advisory has same speed winds but lower pressure.If Irma settles on an eyewall rather than staying in the changing room we could be in for a cat 4 soon.12.144.5.2 01:30, September 4, 2017 (UTC)

As someone in Tampa, I am deeply concerned. I've had a feeling for a while Irma might ride up the West Coast of Florida then slam into Tampa and make the run up the Eastern Seaboard. I wouldn't rule it out. Especially if Irma gets close enough to Hispaniola and Cuba to make the move the hurricane a bit more to the west hugging the coastlines. The GFS has literally been making this a Category 5 slamming into the United States in every single run. I cannot imagine a C4/C5 even going up the spine of Florida and riding all the way through. I trust the models more now with the new recon data and the trend has been getting more southwest - and much much more concerning. Owen 04:23, September 4, 2017 (UTC)


 * The 06Z GFS doesn't stop making it a 5 either, now they forecast it to be an 899 mbar storm riding up the west coast of Florida before moving inland, meaning Cape Canaveral, the keys, and other areas up the coast will be hit possibly as hard as Tampa. The 00Z Euro's intensity forecast for today is more conservative than the GFS, but they still make it a colossal 932 mbar cat 4 storming into northern Cuba before turning north and hitting near Myrtle Beach, South Carolina. If the Bermuda High stays strong until Irma reaches Cuba, it's hard to imagine her missing a U.S. landfall, the big question is where. Ryan1000 10:30, September 4, 2017 (UTC)
 * Irma is becoming nastier and nastier. I think it's possible to see a Category 2/3 (with land interaction with Cuba) going through Florida and bringing heavy storm surge with the size the models want to grow her to. In the Tampa Bay area, the water will have nowhere to go but rise. I live in Pinellas County, if this scenario verifies, I expect mandatory evacuations for my area to be made. Owen 15:27, September 4, 2017 (UTC)

Currently 120 mph, 944 mbars. This is getting scarier by the minute; Irma is now forecast to reach 145 mph in 48 hours. Hurricane warnings now in place for Antigua, Barbuda, Anguilla, Montserrat, St. Kitts and Nevis, Saba, St. Eustatius, Sint Maarten/Saint Martin, and Saint Barthelemy. Dominica is under a tropical storm watch; Puerto Rico, the British & U.S. Virgin Islands and Guadeloupe are now under hurricane warning(s). If this and the AOI below both affect the Antilles within days as major storms, we may see a repeat of 1995's Luis & Marilyn. Anonymous 2.0 (talk) 15:30, September 4, 2017 (UTC)

The NHC sees that 145mph as a PEAK,though,weakening after that,so well short of C5.But the track has been getting worse and worse for Cuba,and potentially the Gulf.Is Irma chasing Harvey after all?--12.144.5.2 15:42, September 4, 2017 (UTC)


 * Well, I won't be surprised if this intensifies into a Cat. 5. Hurricanes, hurricanes, hurricanes! -68.106.0.77 17:35, September 4, 2017 (UTC)


 * If Irma takes the forecasted path, she most likely will not be on the list again. She's a big girl and is going to pack one hell of a punch wherever she decides to make a landfall. Owen 17:46, September 4, 2017 (UTC)
 * Well,she keeps trying on new eyewalls which distracts her from punching anybody.12.144.5.2 18:14, September 4, 2017 (UTC)
 * AL, 11, 2017090418,, BEST, 0, 167N, 539W, 115, 944, HU, ...We have a Cat4. Owen 18:58, September 4, 2017 (UTC)
 * Ok, Irma is really looking like a re-Ike. The Lesser Antilles, and later on Puerto Rico, Hispaniola and Cuba, will take a terribad punch from the hurricane. The discussion notes that impacts in Florida are possible. But with the way it's going, it might bring impacts to Harvey recovery areas in the very long run. This is a very scary monster. Won't even be surprised if it becomes a C5. "I" is cursed for the first time since 2013, and it will be the first time since 2011 that the letter was used for a destructive major hurricane. Beware the I of the storm!!!!! ~  Steve   Talk Page  My Edits  📧  20:22, September 4, 2017 (UTC)

Irma is now a Category 4. 130 mph, 944 mb. Leeboy100 Thinking of Texas. 20:45, September 4, 2017 (UTC)

The forecast peak is now up to 150mph winds BUT it starts weakening after tomorrow.12.144.5.2 21:13, September 4, 2017 (UTC)


 * Irma may get stronger than that, it wouldn't surprise me if Irma becomes a cat 5 as it approaches or passes just north of the Antilles tomorrow. Both of the global models predicted in their 12Z runs today that Irma would hit Miami as a powerful major hurricane and then head north to hit Savannah, Georgia, but the GFS makes the miami landfall an 897 mbar cat 5 monster, while the Euro does it as a 935 mbar cat 4. Either scenario would be catastrophic; if a category 5 hurricane hit Miami today in a similar fashion to the great Miami hurricane of 1926, it could cause as much damage as Harvey is currently projected to cause, if not worse (since Irma could head farther north up the coast and make a second powerful landfall somewhere, if it doesn't in Savannah). Ryan1000 21:43, September 4, 2017 (UTC)

NHC is predicting a Cat. 4 landfall in South Florida with Irma. Which would be the second of the season. Does anyone even remember the last time there were two cat. 4 landfalls in the US in a single season? Leeboy100 Thinking of Texas. 22:06, September 4, 2017 (UTC)


 * Latest GFS run shows Irma destroying 80% of Florida.-- Isaac829 E-Mail  22:30, September 4, 2017 (UTC)


 * @Lee: There has never been an instance of 2 Category 4+ intensity landfalls on the continental U.S. in a single season as far as I can tell. Only example that might count of two "U.S." Cat 4+ landfalls would be 1928 where the Okechobee hurricane made landfall in Puerto Rico as a Cat 5 (if you can't Puerto Rico as U.S.) and then went on to make landfall in Florida as a 4. But that was the same system not two different ones. --Whiplash (talk) 22:40, September 4, 2017 (UTC)


 * If the models do hold true and Irma makes a strike anywhere near the Miami area as a Category 4 or 5 hurricane this season damage-wise will be more destructive than the 2005 Atlantic hurricane season the previous record holder, and we aren't even close to being done yet there still could be another destructive hurricane later in the season but hopefully not. --Whiplash (talk) 22:55, September 4, 2017 (UTC)
 * Actually Whiplash, 1992 technically had two category 4+ U.S. landfalling hurricanes in one season (Andrew and Iniki), but Iniki was a Pacific hurricane that hit Hawaii; if Irma hits Florida as a cat 4 or stronger, it would be the first time on record in which two Atlantic category 4 hurricanes hit the U.S. at category 4 or stronger strength in one year (operationally, 1945 and 1949 were thought to have accomplished that as well, but the category 4 hurricanes that hit Texas in those two seasons were downgraded to category 3 and 2 intensity, respectively, in the hurricane reanalysis project). Anyhow, back to Irma, yeah, the 18Z GFS is completed, they now make Irma an 891 mbar cat 5 hitting the south-central end of Florida, southwest of Miami but northeast of the Keys and riding up the entire state, that would be terrible to see in Florida. Ryan1000 23:44, September 4, 2017 (UTC)


 * 140 mph, 943 mbars. Sooner or later Irma will dethrone Harvey as this season's strongest (so far). Anonymous 2.0 (talk) 00:52, September 5, 2017 (UTC)


 * Florida has had its share of major landfalls...Keys 1919,Miami 1926,Okeechobee 1928,Labor Day 1935,Fort Lauderdale 1947,Donna 1960,Andrew 1992...but where will Irma rank among them?12.144.5.2 01:39, September 5, 2017 (UTC)
 * Irma is on the verge to be a Category 5 hurricane. Hurricanes, hurricanes, hurricanes! -68.106.0.77 02:08, September 5, 2017 (UTC)
 * My query relates to impact on Florida.(Wilma was a champ among Cat 5s,but wasn't that when hitting Florida,though my cousin certainly endured damage).12.144.5.2 03:12, September 5, 2017 (UTC)

2 AM advisory just came in. Now up to 145 mph, pressure down to 939, also thanks for the info guys, surprising that no Atlantic season has had two category 4 landfalls. Leeboy100 Thinking of Texas. 05:40, September 5, 2017 (UTC)


 * Still 1 Mbar short of Harvey, but it's likely to get stronger in the next advisory or two. Irma isn't far from category 5 intensity and it might become one just before passing by or over the northeaternmost islands in the Lesser Antilles, (particularly Anguilla), but it may become one later on as well. Only unpredictable ERC's that may expand the size of Irma may keep it in check; otherwise, she's having a field day out there. The global models both agree on a landfall in south-central Florida and riding up the state as a powerful major hurricane, but the NHC forecast has been shifting north, if Irma manages to shift to a landfall over Miami, it would be one of the worst hurricanes to hit the U.S, and could rival or well exceed the damage caused by Harvey. Ryan1000 07:09, September 5, 2017 (UTC)
 * Irma now 150/937. Harvey dethroned as strongest of the season. Recon should probably find a strong 4 or Category 5. Owen 08:48, September 5, 2017 (UTC)

This is a (bigger) monster unraveling right before our eyes. Another history is being made, just weeks after Harvey. You're right Owen, this will most likely become a C5, unless it becomes Joaquin-esque (which stayed at 150 mph). Anonymous 2.0 (talk) 08:51, September 5, 2017 (UTC)


 * NOAA Mission #7 is now getting ready to pass through the center. I won't be surprised it finds a C5; Irma's looking really scary on satellite imagery right now. ~ KN2731 {talk} 09:06, September 5, 2017 (UTC)

Category 5 Hurricane Irma
Lord have mercy. Recon found a Cat 5. Owen 11:46, September 5, 2017 (UTC)
 * Oh no. Irma's gotta go after this year. 175 mph, 929 mbars. Is she the strongest since 2005? Or was it Igor? Well, whatever. This is pure madness. May the areas in her path be prepared for her wrath.
 * EDIT: She is the strongest since 2007's Felix. Anonymous 2.0 (talk) 11:56, September 5, 2017 (UTC) (Originally posted by Anonymous 2.0 (talk) 11:48, September 5, 2017 (UTC))
 * At 5 AM they found 150mph winds and the forecast was this would stay steady for two days and then weaken.At 7:45 AM they found 175mph...looks like Irma pulled a fast one!12.144.5.2 12:01, September 5, 2017 (UTC)
 * The models (unfortunately) nailed this, to be honest. Irma is expected to be a C5 for at least 48 hours from now. Forecast to peak at 180 mph. This is a storm for the books — like her predecessor (aka Harvey). This is a disaster unfolding right before our eyes. Anonymous 2.0 (talk) 12:05, September 5, 2017 (UTC)

Oh my gosh. I cannot believe how it just jumped up to 175 mph this fast. Leeboy100 Thinking of Texas. 12:28, September 5, 2017 (UTC)

Its pressure is unusually high for a 175mph cane. Looks to be in the range of Felix/Carla more than anything else.

Will the pressure be lower at the 11 AM advisory?12.144.5.2 12:39, September 5, 2017 (UTC)

Hurricane IRMA As of 12:00 UTC Sep 05, 2017:


 * Location: 16.7°N 57.8°W
 * Maximum Winds: 155 kt Gusts: N/A
 * Minimum Central Pressure: 929 mb
 * Environmental Pressure: 1010 mb
 * Radius of Circulation: 300 NM
 * Radius of Maximum Wind: 15 NM

Strongest hurricane in Atlantic since Wilma in 2005. No words. Owen 12:51, September 5, 2017 (UTC)


 * NHC expects further strengthening to 180 mph soon; if it does, Irma will exceed Felix as the strongest Atlantic hurricane since Wilma (in pressure since Dean, unless Irma gets below 905 mbars). Looks like the GFS wasn't crazy predicting a cat 5 after all, though even that model didn't expect Irma to intensify to a cat 5 this fast. It's time to start praying for the folks in the upper Lessers and Florida, Irma may be their worst hurricane in decades, if not ever. EDIT: (Be careful with putting in coded formats Owen, you might accidentally cause errors on the rest of the page; everything below was indented twice. Don't worry, I fixed it, but be sure to switch to source mode from visual mode at the top-right hand corner of the editor from now on when putting in coded formats). Ryan1000 12:56, September 5, 2017 (UTC)
 * It may supersede Charley as Florida's worst since Andrew,but to be their worst ever,it would have to beat out Labor Day 1935,Okeechobee 1928,and more...12.144.5.2 13:28, September 5, 2017 (UTC)
 * You never know, Harvey didn't seem like it would eclipse Katrina at first glance of its landfall location, but with record flooding in Houston to the northeast, it did, Irma may as well, especially if it maintains this intensity as it approaches Florida down the road, or if it's projected track and landfall shifts farther north towards Miami, which is a possibility since stonger hurricanes tend to turn more north. Another thing of note, Irma is the first category 5 hurricane recorded over the open tropical Atlantic Ocean since Isabel of 2003. Every category 5 since Isabel reached its intensity in either the Caribbean Sea or GOM. Ryan1000 13:34, September 5, 2017 (UTC)

So, the 'I' curse is definitely back. Even if it doesn't hit Florida too hard (one can only hope), areas like Puerto Rico, Antigua, and other islands will be battered by this storm. Also, it's quite fitting that the last major 'I'-named hurricane got the name that this very hurricane replaced. Beware The I Of The Storm... Leeboy100 Thinking of Texas. 13:39, September 5, 2017 (UTC)
 * This is history in the making. I can't believe I woke up to a C5. Irma is going to be a certain retirement candidate now. This is the most cursed that "I" has been since...Ivan? Anyway, really hope that everyone in its path evacuate, take shelter and pack up belongings, for this could be one of the most devastating hurricanes in history. The Lesser Antilles may be devastated, and then it will set its sights on Cuba, Florida and potentially the Gulf Coast. Maybe my Jose prediction (link to it is in this storm's AOI section) wasn't so unrealistic after all... Beware the I of the storm!!!!! ~  Steve   Talk Page  My Edits  📧  14:14, September 5, 2017 (UTC)


 * Archived Harvey as Irma is the new focus right now. Irene (the name Irma replaced) was only a tropical storm when it passed by the upper Lesser Antilles, Irma may be the strongest hurricane to affect the area on record if it maintains this intensity as it approaches the islands, or intensifies slightly to 180 mph. It's still a fairly compact storm for its strength, with hurricane-force winds going only 45 miles out and TS force winds going 140 miles out, but it may enlarge itself through ERC's as it passes through the northeastern Lessers and approaches Florida later this week. Pray for the folks in the upper Lessers, because they may never see a hurricane this powerful again in their lifetimes... Ryan1000 14:08, September 5, 2017 (UTC)
 * Oh my Jesus Christ! A Category 5 hurricane and I knew it would happen. This will definitely continue the "I" curse for sure. Hurricanes, hurricanes, hurricanes!-68.106.0.77 14:26, September 5, 2017 (UTC)
 * I would guess that never seeing a hurricane this powerful again in their lifetimes would be the subject of the prayers.But I think there will be hurricanes like this every now and then.12.144.5.2 14:29, September 5, 2017 (UTC)
 * 11 AM advisory: 180 MPH WINDS AND 931 MBAR PRESSURE. God damn, this is going to be catastrophic for the folks in the Lessers...NHC has increased their tone in their updated statement on the page as well ...POTENTIALLY CATASTROPHIC CATEGORY 5 HURRICANE IRMA HEADING TOWARD THE LEEWARD ISLANDS... ...PREPARATIONS SHOULD BE RUSHED TO COMPLETION IN THE HURRICANE WARNING AREA... Also, according to the forecast discussion,

This makes Irma the strongest hurricane in the Atlantic basin outside of the Caribbean Sea and Gulf of Mexico in the NHC records. Ryan1000 14:48, September 5, 2017 (UTC)
 * 180 and 931? That doesn't seem right.--2600:1001:B00A:EF0:5836:F4E2:4072:4D56 15:13, September 5, 2017 (UTC)
 * The pressure gradient is stronger with storms in this area of the Atlantic, the water northeast of the Caribbean isn't typically as warm as the waters in the northwest Caribbean or GOM at this time of year; if this hurricane was in the Caribbean or GOM with this windspeed, it would be one of the, if not the, strongest Atlantic hurricanes on record in terms of pressure (in terms of windspeed, Irma is already). EDIT: To make matters worse, Irma is looking annular, so it'll be slow to weaken over the next several days, basically a worst-case scenario for some of the Lesser Antilles... Ryan1000 15:21, September 5, 2017 (UTC)
 * I believe these are the highest wind speeds ever recorded for a hurricane in the open Atlantic (as opposed to GoM or Caribbean Sea). --Whiplash (talk) 15:35, September 5, 2017 (UTC)
 * NHC mentioned that in the forecast discussion quote I showed above. Also, Phil Klotzbach mentioned on Twitter that Irma reached 175 mph winds farther east than any other such storm in the Atlantic, eclipsing David of 1979. Ryan1000 15:46, September 5, 2017 (UTC)


 * Winds and pressure both went up.Could mean winds have reached a peak but NHC forecasts weakening to start tomorrow while noting the fluctuations due to eyewall replacements.As I recall Wilma was the lowest-pressure Atlantic hurricane ever,Allen the highest-wind-speed Atlantic hurricane ever,Rita the strongest Gulf hurricane ever,but a storm in 1780 was said to have blown the bark off trees,which takes stronger winds than any modern recorded hurricane has had.Let's hope Irma has no record-setting ambitions,especially in the fatalities department.
 * The NHC forecast track seems to draw a bullseye on Key West,which may be looking back at 1919 and 1935 for comparisons...12.144.5.2 15:49, September 5, 2017 (UTC)
 * But isn't this the same region that gave us Isabel and Hugo? If they can go below 920 with lower wind speeds then so can Irma with 180.--2600:1001:B00A:EF0:3089:C52A:B380:981F 17:07, September 5, 2017 (UTC)

Oh. My. God. NHC discussion now says that this is the most powerful hurricane ever recorded outside of the Caribbean and Gulf. Very likely, Irma is getting the dark red coloring in my retirements (it just needs 5 more mph). Won't be surprised if Allan's windspeed is tied or surpassed... This is the scariest hurricane ever. Beware the I of the storm!!!!! ~  Steve   Talk Page  My Edits  📧  15:59, September 5, 2017 (UTC)

The fact that the pressure went up could mean that the wind speed is about to go down.12.144.5.2 16:09, September 5, 2017 (UTC)


 * Recon found a pressure of 927 not too long ago. Kiewii 16:13, September 5, 2017 (UTC)
 * Was this after the 11 AM advisory?...I note that inhabited islands are now within the purple (highest) "50 kt wind speed probabilities" band on the NHC map though none are in "hurricane winds" yet.Irma is reportedly producing 190kt gusts but that's 30kt short of the world cyclone record (Olivia,in Australia,1996)...what's the Atlantic record?12.144.5.2 16:22, September 5, 2017 (UTC)
 * In sustained winds, Allen of 1980 holds the record with 190 mph winds. In terms of maximum wind gusts on land, I believe Hurricane Gustav of 2008 had a wind reading of 211 mph (184 knots) on it's Cuba landfall as a high-end cat 4, not sure if that's the Atlantic record but I believe it was. Ryan1000 16:34, September 5, 2017 (UTC)


 * Evacuations about to be ordered for Monroe County and the Keys in Florida. --Whiplash (talk) 16:31, September 5, 2017 (UTC)
 * I will be evacuating probably Friday morning - I live in Pinellas County. I am worried, as is many other people here. Very possible we could see the Tampa shield finally come apart this year. Owen 17:19, September 5, 2017 (UTC)


 * Looks like Barbuda is basically screwed by this point. The island is going to get leveled. Anguilla will be next. Could be looking at 2 Category 5 landfalls in short order if Irma keeps up her track. --Whiplash (talk) 17:53, September 5, 2017 (UTC)
 * 2pm intermediate advisory ups the ante further still to 160 kts/926 mbar — funny thing is, going solely by pressure, Irma still has yet to match Igor's 924 mbar, despite being 25 kts stronger by windspeed. --Dylan (HurricaneMaker99) 17:55, September 5, 2017 (UTC)

Irma now up to 185, and 'still' showing signs of strengthening. Is it possible that we could see Allen's record fall? Also, stay safe, Owen! Leeboy100 Beware Irma's Fury. Thinking of Texas. 17:59, September 5, 2017 (UTC)

It looks like Irma will be cashing in the 401k after just one season of work...many retired names have had long careers.I hope Irma didn't go for a 401kt!12.144.5.2


 * Irma has to go after this season. She has an outside chance to approach Patricia's wind record. Owen 18:35, September 5, 2017 (UTC)
 * Yeah,retired hurricanes tend to be real blowhards.12.144.5.2 18:42, September 5, 2017 (UTC)
 * Actually,even a 401km would be a nasty part of Irma's retirement package!12.144.5.2 19:58, September 5, 2017 (UTC)


 * I just looked back in my old prediction archives. I predicted Irma would become a C5 4 years ago, and here we are now. Anyways, this storm is gonna be a doozy. T  G  2 0 1 7 19:38, September 5, 2017 (UTC)


 * Advisory #27 keeps Irma at the same windspeed and pressure. It could still strengthen a bit more to tie Allen's windspeed, before a slow weakening is forecast to begin. The upper Lesser Antilles and Puerto Rico could be absolutely devastated... This is one frightening monster... P.S. congrats on your accurate prediction, TG! :) Beware the I of the storm!!!!! ~ <font face="Impact"> Steve   Talk Page  My Edits  📧  20:55, September 5, 2017 (UTC)
 * Advisory 27 also says that an eyewall replacement is starting (which would lead to weakening),and the forecast discussion has the winds weakening steadily.We may well have seen the most extreme wind and pressure readings.12.144.5.2 21:09, September 5, 2017 (UTC)
 * Irma's annular structure will probably keep it from weakening significantly over the next few days unless it heads farther west than anticipated and hits Puerto Rico directly, though given the farther trend west than previously anticipated, Irma might slam the Virgin Islands directly, if it doesn't just hit the northernmost Lesser Antilles. Either way, this is looking to be historic for the area and later Florida. 12Z Euro takes it over Cuba and then heading north to Naples or the Punta Gorda area, just south of Tampa, while the 18Z GFS turns this north before hitting Miami and eventually hitting South Carolina as a monster hurricane. NHC is taking the Euro's track, but it's still too soon to tell where Irma will go in that area due to an approaching trough. Ryan1000 23:14, September 5, 2017 (UTC)

Hurricane recon has reportedly found a pressure of 917mb. Strengthening appears to be continuing pressure wise even though an ERC looks imminent. --Whiplash (talk) 23:16, September 5, 2017 (UTC)
 * 8pm intermediate advisory keeps the winds steady but lowers the pressure to 916 mbar. 167 kt winds reported by dropsonde near the surface. Barbuda staring down a cannon. --Dylan (HurricaneMaker99) 23:52, September 5, 2017 (UTC)


 * Those winds are (in link) said to be accompanied by 934mb pressure while the ones ~916mb (higher up?) are 173kt...so are the recorded stats for a hurricane based on winds at the surface but pressure at a certain altitude?12.144.5.2 01:00, September 6, 2017 (UTC)

New advisory. Winds stay the same, but pressure has gone down to 916 MB. Leeboy100 Beware Irma's Fury. Thinking of Texas. 23:49, September 5, 2017 (UTC)


 * For the record, with a pressure now down to 916 mbars, Irma has the lowest pressure from any hurricane in the open tropical Atlantic on record, eclipsing Gloria of 1985 by 3 mbars. The northeastern Lessers are about to get crushed by this monster tonight, pray for them...Ryan1000 00:19, September 6, 2017 (UTC)
 * Second to Isabel's 915 mbar, but somehow I have a sinking feeling that Irma might not quite be done intensifying :( --Dylan (HurricaneMaker99) 00:24, September 6, 2017 (UTC)
 * Gah, why'd I forget her...well, unfortunately, I agree with you, Irma might still get stronger before hitting the Lessers tonight. If Irma can pump up just 5 more miles of windspeed, she'll tie Allen. Ryan1000 00:33, September 6, 2017 (UTC)
 * Maybe Irma heard you talking about Isabel...as of Advisory 28A central pressure is 914mb (26.99 inHg).12.144.5.2 06:10, September 6, 2017 (UTC)
 * The Caribbean is in trouble for the hurricane. Hurricane Warnings, Hurricane Watches, Tropical Storm Warnings, and Tropical Storm Watches are in effect for most of the Caribbean. Hurricanes, hurricanes, hurricanes! -68.106.0.77 01:20, September 6, 2017 (UTC)


 * I am still monitoring Irma here in Tampa - still have a gut feeling of a Tampa direct hit. Lines are crazy here, water is completely gone, and schools are closing in preparation. Should the current trends continue, looks like I will be evacuating to see family in New Jersey this weekend. We aren't riding this monster out. Owen 02:25, September 6, 2017 (UTC)


 * Stay safe, Owen! :) Pray it doesn't destroy your home or any belongings left there. Irma is 185 mph/916 mbars, and conditions are deteriorating in the Lessers. They won't get out of Irma without being devastated... And the track is now showing a very likely direct hit on Tampa. I am glad you are evacuating, Owen! ~ <font face="Impact"> Steve    Talk Page  My Edits  📧  02:55, September 6, 2017 (UTC)
 * Situation appears to have levelled off,with eyewall replacement & weakening anticipated,as of Advisory 28.(Amazing how many people feel under pressure about this,when the last thing Irma believes in is high pressure!)12.144.5.2 03:06, September 6, 2017 (UTC)

...POTENTIALLY CATASTROPHIC CATEGORY 5 HURRICANE IRMA GETTING VERY CLOSE TO THE NORTHERN LEEWARD ISLANDS...
 * I hope you stay safe Owen. It will pose threat to the Caribbean. Hurricanes, hurricanes, hurricanes! -68.106.0.77 03:35, September 6, 2017 (UTC)

Landfall on Barbuda
Barbuda is now in the eye wall of the hurricane according to reports and landfall should be occurring within the coming 2 hours. Communications has been lost with both Barbuda and Antigua. Emergency broadcasts that were being played by Antigua's Observer Radio have been cut off. Reports from the station indicated fires and roofs being ripped of in Antigua even before the worst of the storm approached. There is no word from Barbuda where it appears the community of Codrington is likely going to be totally destroyed. Also the island is home to a major natural reserve for birds and there are fears it is going to destroy several populations of endangered birds. Not a good start so far. Looks like will be the worst hurricane ever for this island. --Whiplash (talk) 04:02, September 6, 2017 (UTC)


 * The station on Barbuda if anyone is interested. Should be updating every 6 minutes but hasn't for almost 30. Wouldn't be surprised if this thing has gotten knocked out already or soon will be. --Whiplash (talk) 04:16, September 6, 2017 (UTC)
 * When the station stopped reporting pressure was 28.95 in...falling rapidly,but Irma's eye is at 27.05 in.Looks like the station failed early.12.144.5.2 04:39, September 6, 2017 (UTC)
 * Lol, the station failed miserably. Puerto Rico is preparing for the hurricane. Hurricanes, hurricanes, hurricanes!-68.106.0.77 05:09, September 6, 2017 (UTC)
 * Unfortunately, it already killed 3 people although Irma just made landfall in Barbuda. Hurricanes, hurricanes, hurricanes! -68.106.0.77 05:19, September 6, 2017 (UTC)


 * Recon investigating is finding Irma is holding onto intensity. New minimum pressure of 911.8 mbar found. Owen 05:22, September 6, 2017 (UTC)


 * Appears that Irma has now made her first landfall as Barbuda is now in the eye. --Whiplash (talk) 05:29, September 6, 2017 (UTC)


 * Yes,Advisory 28A says the eye is passing over Barbuda where they apparently still have an automated station reporting 27.40 in pressure (though Irma as a whole has cracked the 27-inch mark with 26.99 (914 mbar) and is maintaining those 185mph winds).12.144.5.2 06:03, September 6, 2017 (UTC)

Winds stay the same, pressure down to 914. Barbuda is getting absolutely battered by Irma right now. I hope people who stayed behind have really good shelter. Leeboy100 Beware Irma's Fury. Thinking of Texas. 06:06, September 6, 2017 (UTC)


 * This is easily going to be Barbuda's worst hurricane on record, and Irma is far from done. The storm is now expected to move into the islands of Anguilla, Saint Barthelemy, and The Settlement on the northernmost British Virgini Islands all while still an extremely powerful category 5 hurricane. However, the islands south of that are taking a beating from Irma as well, and Irma is expected to maintain its category 5 strength as it passes north of Puerto Rico and Hispaniola, before it weakens to a strong cat 4 as it moves into the Bahamas and threatens southern Florida. Ryan1000 07:51, September 6, 2017 (UTC)
 * I also hate to be the bearer of bad news for Miami, but even the Euro has trended farther east with its latest run, and now both it and the GFS take this into Miami as a cat 5 before moving north and hitting either Savannah or Charleston as a weaker category 4 storm. Irma might be the doomsday Miami hurricane that has been feared for a long time, maybe even worse than a 1926 repeat if it makes a 2nd landfall farther north and severely hits two major U.S. cities. Ryan1000 08:47, September 6, 2017 (UTC)

The eyewall is now completely past Barbuda. They got slammed by the eyewall though. Also, an anemometor on Barbuda was knocked out, after it had measured a pressure of 920. I can't even find reports of how high the winds were there. Also, as of the latest advisory, nothing has changed in terms of strength. Winds still 185, pressure still 904 914, forgive me. I didn't get much sleep last night due to worrying about those in the path of Irma. Leeboy100 Beware Irma's Fury. Thinking of Texas. 09:10, September 6, 2017 (UTC)


 * New NHC cone is made out, and landfall has now shifted from the Keys to south-central Florida, if it continues to push farther east than that due to that trough then Miami could be in for a worst-case scenario. Ryan1000 09:46, September 6, 2017 (UTC)

Landfall on St. Barthelemy
Irma's eye has now passed over the small French island of St. Barthelemy, and it's going to pass over Anguilla and St. Martin soon (they're already getting battered by the eyewall of this monster category 5 storm). Ryan1000 10:08, September 6, 2017 (UTC)

Landfall on St. Martin
Irma is now making landfall over Anguilla and St. Martin...St. Martin took a beating from this thing as you can see in this video, not sure how Anguilla is doing but it's likely not any better than St. Martin. Worse, Irma is taking a jog slightly west of north now, and if that continues then the BVI and northern Puerto Rico could get a direct slamming from this as well. Ryan1000 11:15, September 6, 2017 (UTC)


 * 8 AM advisory came out an hour ago, the winds are still roaring at 185 mph but the pressure rose 4 mbars to 918. Irma's outer rainbands have started to bring heavy impacts to the northern BVI. I don't want Florida to let their guard down just yet, but the forecast track for Irma from the 06Z GFS has now shifted far enough east to keep this off the coast of Florida and away from a direct hit on Miami, but they still make it a category 5 hurricane paralleling the east coast of the state, and racing northwards to a cat 4 landfall in Savannah. Ryan1000 13:25, September 6, 2017 (UTC)

...EYE OF POTENTIALLY CATASTROPHIC CATEGORY 5 HURRICANE IRMA PASSES OVER ST. MARTIN... ...NORTHERN EYEWALL POUNDING ANGUILLA...
 * Saint Martin takes the direct hit from Irma. Hurricanes, hurricanes, hurricanes!-68.106.0.77 14:27, September 6, 2017 (UTC)

The 11 AM advisory is out...numbers unchanged from 8 AM...but this has to be asked now...what is the longest time any previous hurricane has maintained winds of 185mph or more?12.144.5.2 15:22, September 6, 2017 (UTC)

Landfall on BVI
I was actually going to point that out 12, there has never been any hurricane in the Atlantic or Eastern Pacific that has maintained 185 mph winds for a full day...until Irma. Gilbert, Wilma, and Allen only held winds that high for one advisory, or 6 hours, the Labor Day Hurricane of 1935 did so for two advisories (12 hours), and Patricia did so for 3 (18). So Irma, pending reanalysis, has spend more time with 160 knot winds than any other TC on record in the NHC's AOR. Also, unless the NHC's track continues to shift east or Irma slips farther in intensity, Irma is now projected to make a 145 mph cat 4 landfall over Miami on Sunday, and then head north towards a Georgia or South Carolina landfall as a category 3 hurricane. Not good...to add onto that, the British Virgin Islands are about to get the eye of Irma, who knows how bad this thing could be there, they've never seen a hurricane this powerful. Ryan1000 15:47, September 6, 2017 (UTC)

It turns out Klotzbach just addressed this in a Tweet,saying Allen had 180mph or more for 18 hours and Irma was up to 24.So at 185 Irma beats Allen 21(will it make 24?) to 6 even though Allen managed a 190 peak.12.144.5.2 15:58, September 6, 2017 (UTC)


 * Yeah, though that 190 mph, 899 mbar peak was only for one advisory, and Allen didn't maintain 180 mph winds for a consecutive 24 hours, it peaked with that windspeed or higher at one advisory in the Eastern Caribbean, 3 advisories in the Yucatan Channel, and one in the western Gulf of Mexico. Also, in either instance, Allen didn't maintain 185 mph winds for more than the one advisory when his winds were 190. To add onto that, Irma's extensive time spent as a strong hurricane has already led to her racking up 34.65 ACE units; if Irma can maintain her powerful major hurricane intensity for the next week or so before it recurves north and hits the eastern seaboard near Georgia or South Carolina, it's very possible Irma could rack up more than 50 or even 60 ACE units, which would be more than any Atlantic storm since Ivan got more than 70 in September 2004. Ryan1000 16:07, September 6, 2017 (UTC)
 * The noon position update on Irma(55 miles east of St. Thomas) says pressure's up to 922mb/27.23 in but winds are still 185,that makes 22 hours.I suppose the 3 advisories in the Yucatan Channel were what Klotzbach meant as the old 180+ record.12.144.5.2 16:13, September 6, 2017 (UTC)


 * IRMAGHERD! HURRURCURN!
 * Anyway, I was just looking at the Sky News report. Kay Burley (the host) and the Antigua and Barbuda spokeswoman said that Irma absolutely obliterated the islands already hit. Some Caribbean islands were left contactless for seven plus hours. The footage on Twitter of this storm proves how catastrophic the damage already is; Saint Marten/Sint Maarten already look like they had a huge 1000000 litre bucket of water dumped on them. Plenty of millionaire mansions are being threatened too (Richard Branson refused to evacuate from his mansion in the BVI) as well as ordinary people's lives. I will be very scared when this approaches Haiti since most lives would likely be taken there (Matthew, anyone?) God help those affected/to be affected by this storm. This looks set to be even worse than Matthew and Ivan; just look at the sheer monstrosity of Irma. And with Jose trailing behind (which to me could be Fabian 2) GOD KNOWS WHAT WILL HAPPEN. HELP THESE PEOPLE! IRMA WILL CERTAINLY BE FACING RETIREMENT THIS YEAR! blow a kiss fier a gun all wee need is somebodey to leen on 150px-PrussiaChibi.png 16:20, September 6, 2017 (UTC)
 * I suppose Irma is in the running to be the worst thing to hit the Antilles since the Great Hurricane of 1780.12.144.5.2 16:26, September 6, 2017 (UTC)
 * In terms of destruction, it wouldn't surprise me if Irma is the costliest hurricane to ever hit the northeastern Lessers on record when all is said and done. But in terms of death toll...hopefully advanced warning and sturdy building codes minimize loss of life, Irma (or any Atlantic hurricane for that matter) is going to have a hard time approaching the ~22,000 deaths of the great 1780 hurricane. But after this rushes through the BVI and passes north of PR and Hispaniola, all eyes are on Florida, because if Irma smacks Miami directly as a strong cat 4, it could easily surpass Harvey as the costliest U.S. hurricane on record, and that's saying something, since Harvey (likely) surpassed Katrina himself. Ryan1000 16:48, September 6, 2017 (UTC)


 * Well then, let's hope this year's season isn't the most expensive since (god forbid) 2005! blow a kiss fier a gun all wee need is somebodey to leen on 150px-PrussiaChibi.png 16:49, September 6, 2017 (UTC)

At this point in 2005 we were already up to Nate and Ophelia was a TD,so at least the storms are not forming as frequently.But what would be left of New Orleans if Irma had hit instead of Katrina?12.144.5.2 17:01, September 6, 2017 (UTC)

1PM position update is out...35 miles east of St. Thomas,pressure back down to 920mb/27.17in and winds still at 185mph for a 23rd hour.12.144.5.2 17:04, September 6, 2017 (UTC)

I have a little bit of good news for everyone. I heard reports earlier and just saw on the ticker on The Weather Channel, regarding Antigua. Despite how hard Antigua got hit by Irma, the Prime Minister of Antigua has confirmed that everyone who has stayed behind has been accounted for and that there has been no loss of life. Unfortunately, while Antigua got off the hook fatality-wise, there's no promise that other islands in the Caribbean will. Leeboy100 Beware Irma's Fury. Thinking of Texas. 17:30, September 6, 2017 (UTC)

2PM update has Irma 20 miles ENE of St. Thomas and numbers steady from 1PM,so that's a a whole day of 185mph winds.12.144.5.2 18:35, September 6, 2017 (UTC)

3PM,no change in wind/pressure(25 hours at 185 mph) and 15 mi NNE of St. Thomas,"core battering the Virgin Islands".12.144.5.2 19:23, September 6, 2017 (UTC)

4PM,now NNW of St. Thomas but no weakening yet!12.144.5.2 20:33, September 6, 2017 (UTC)


 * 90% of buildings in Barbuda destroyed, according to their prime minister. Decades of progress gone.-- <font face="Courier New">Isaac829 <font face="Courier New">E-Mail  20:41, September 6, 2017 (UTC)

Last night, Irma reached it's peak with 185 mph winds, and 914 mbarrs in pressure. Now it did it again. Back to 914 mbars, also The Weather Channel is saying, unfortunately, there have been 2 deaths. Leeboy100 Beware Irma's Fury. Thinking of Texas. 20:59, September 6, 2017 (UTC)

On Twitter,Klotzbach has linked to a PDF file on the records Irma holds...including being the only satellite-era storm worldwide to have had winds this strong for over a day other than Typhoon Haiyan.12.144.5.2 21:21, September 6, 2017 (UTC)

No change in pressure or wind speed at 6 PM with Irma 50 miles NE of San Juan.Someone on Wikipedia has been claiming Camille had 190mph winds as well as Allen,what's the evidence?12.144.5.2 22:00, September 6, 2017 (UTC) ...600 PM AST POSITION UPDATE... ...CORE OF IRMA PASSING JUST NORTH OF PUERTO RICO...
 * 12, don't rely on Wikipedia too much. Two users just increased the wind speed to 190 mph for no reason. The NHC reanalysis reduced the winds to 175 mph. Anyway, Irma passes north of Puerto Rico. Hurricanes, hurricanes, hurricanes!-68.106.0.77 22:42, September 6, 2017 (UTC)
 * I can't believe Irma is still this powerful, she's now lasted over a day with these extreme winds, and isn't expected to weaken very fast as she passes north of PR and Hispaniola. Worse, the NHC forecast track hasn't moved from a cat 4 direct strike on Miami since noon, which would be a worst-case scenario. As a side note, with Jose (and surprisingly this soon, Katia) now becoming hurricanes, this is the first time since September 17, 2010 to feature three simultaneous Atlantic hurricanes active on the same day (on that day, Igor, Julia, and Karl were all hurricanes). Ryan1000 23:03, September 6, 2017 (UTC)


 * 7PM and still no change in winds or pressure as it slips by Puerto Rico.12.144.5.2 23:03, September 6, 2017 (UTC)
 * The survivors of Irma on Barbuda tell their stories of how they survived in this video...no words can describe that. The island was literally shredded to bits. And that's not to mention the apocalyptic damage that occured on St. Martin, Anguilla, St. Barthelemy, and the BVI later on. Ryan1000 23:34, September 6, 2017 (UTC)
 * 8 PM advisory is out, still no change in intensity... Ryan1000 23:58, September 6, 2017 (UTC)
 * 9 PM position statement,it's 55 miles NNW of San Juan,pressure up just slightly but winds still' at 185 mph!12.144.5.2 01:02, September 7, 2017 (UTC)

Pressure is now 916, but with winds remaining this strong, unless Irma weakens quickly, we might be looking at a 150-155 mph cat 4 or even cat 5 landfall in Miami, as SST's are still warm in the straits of Florida. Only some shear may inhibit it, but Irma's annular structure has kept shear weakening negligible over the past day. Ryan1000 01:31, September 7, 2017 (UTC)

So, the winds of Irma have been 180 mph+ for 34 consecutive hours. How much longer can the winds stay this strong? This is a nightmare scenario. Leeboy100 Beware Irma's Fury. Thinking of Texas. 01:35, September 7, 2017 (UTC)

10PM sees no change in pressure or wind from 9 PM as Irma gets further past San Juan.The Bahamas must be having conniptions.12.144.5.2 02:10, September 7, 2017 (UTC)

The 11PM full advisory still holds onto the same pressure and wind.33 hours of 185-mph wind.12.144.5.2 02:57, September 7, 2017 (UTC)


 * She's holding the 185 mph wind speed for so long that I going to faint. Hurricanes, hurricanes, hurricanes! -68.106.0.77 03:36, September 7, 2017 (UTC)
 * Including at the midnight position update,despite another small uptick in pressure.12.144.5.2 04:03, September 7, 2017 (UTC)

...1200 AM AST POSITION UPDATE... ...CORE OF IRMA MOVING AWAY FROM PUERTO RICO...
 * Pressure up to 918 mb but still holding on to the same winds. It's moving away from Puerto Rico now. Hurricanes, hurricanes, hurricanes! -68.106.0.77 04:51, September 7, 2017 (UTC)


 * 1 AM still has the intensity on 185 mph/918 mb. Hurricanes, hurricanes, hurricanes! -68.106.0.77 04:58, September 7, 2017 (UTC)

Haven't really been able to post much due to college and stuff. But the intensity of Irma is now down to 180 mph/921 mbars (at least that's what I saw on the NHC page). I have read that 90% of Barbuda was destroyed and so was 95% of St. Martin. This could have been expected due to the monster's sheer intensity. Puerto Rico could have been severely battered as well (especially the northern coast). Irma is now setting its sights on the Turks & Caicos, Cuba, Bahamas and the most concerning one of them all, Florida. It's expected to totally lash the state while still at major hurricane status. Miami and the state's east coast could be the worst affected IMO. But the size of the storm would mean that Key West, Tampa, and the state's west coast will get sizeable impacts as well. I hope Owen is packing up and evacuating. Stay safe Owen! :) After Florida, the Carolinas would have to watch out, although Irma will be weaker by then (doesn't mean that impacts won't be severe). Beware the I of the storm!!!!! ~ <font face="Impact"> Steve   Talk Page  My Edits  📧  06:40, September 7, 2017 (UTC)


 * The 2 AM advisory finally cuts Irma's winds down a notch, to 180 mph and 921 mbars, and it's still that value for the 3 AM update. The track has shifted east of a direct landfall on Miami with the latest advisory, but it's still too soon to tell if the city will get off the hook. Irma is expected to hit Savannah after it hits Florida, and the intensity at that landfall has been downed to a 110 mph projection, but that could still change; Irma has maintained her intensity for a very long time and it could regain strength in the straits of Florida if it finishes an ERC. Ryan1000 07:22, September 7, 2017 (UTC)
 * 8 AM update is out, no change in Irma's windspeed or pressure, and still moving WNW at 17 mph. Ryan1000 11:57, September 7, 2017 (UTC)
 * Hourly position updates appear to have stopped.12.144.5.2 14:07, September 7, 2017 (UTC)
 * Irma is now responsible for at least 13 deaths in the upper Lesser Antilles, and is also approaching another landfall in the southeastern Bahamas, the Turks and Caicos islands by tonight or tomorrow morning. Ryan1000 14:16, September 7, 2017 (UTC)

...EYE OF IRMA MOVING WEST-NORTHWESTWARD OFF THE NORTHERN COAST OF HISPANIOLA... ...HEADING FOR THE TURK AND CAICOS ISLANDS...
 * RIP to those who died. And finally, the winds are down to 180 mph. Hurricanes, hurricanes, hurricanes!-68.106.0.77 14:30, September 7, 2017 (UTC)

Category 5 Hurricane Irma (cont.)
Adding new section as previous one is becoming long. --Whiplash (talk) 14:29, September 7, 2017 (UTC)


 * @12 updates stopped because Irma's center moved out of range of US radar on Puerto Rico. Winds down to 175 mph, but pressure remains 921 mb. Likely due to eyewall replacement cycle that's finally beginning. ~ KN2731 {talk} 14:54, September 7, 2017 (UTC)


 * I for one cannot imagine hurricane Irma weakening to a 4 looking at the SST in front of her. After her ERC is done I fully expect her to shoot back up in intensity. --Whiplash (talk) 15:07, September 7, 2017 (UTC)

To Owen, I may not know you personally, but I hope you stay safe. Wishing for the best, expecting for the worst. I won't be surprised if 2017 ends up as the costliest season ever because of Harvey and Irma. Anonymous 2.0 (talk) 15:53, September 7, 2017 (UTC)


 * Whiplash, Irma will encounter some increasing wind shear from the trough just off the east coast that will recurve Irma northward towards her landfall or close pass of southeast Florida this weekend, so it's not likely Irma will re-intensify a 180 mph hurricane when she approaches or makes landfall on the southeastern Florida coast on Saturday night/Sunday monring, although the warm SST's over the straits of Florida will likely be enough to keep Irma as at least a strong cat 4 when Irma moves towards a landfall in Miami; the last cone showed Irma hitting the city at 150 mph, now it's back down to 145 mph, but that's still an incredibly powerful, near-repeat of the 1926 hurricane, and Irma could still hit Savannah as a strong category 3 hurricane after striking southeastern Florida. Miami's last direct hit from a major hurricane was 130 mph Hurricane King in October 1950, but the Miami metro area was much smaller back then than it is today, while Savannah hasn't seen a direct hit from a major hurricane since the great Sea Islands hurricane of 1893, although the 3rd storm of 1940 and Hurricane David in 1979 did hit the city as weaker hurricanes, and Matthew of last year came close to a landfall there, but turned away before doing so. Ryan1000 16:18, September 7, 2017 (UTC)
 * Didn't Andrew count as a pretty direct hit on Miami?...my uncle in Coral Gables was very affected by it.12.144.5.2 16:22, September 7, 2017 (UTC)
 * Andrew was a small hurricane and the core of Andrew's strongest winds did not reach the downtown area of Miami, like King and the 1926 hurricane did; the worst of Andrew's extreme winds were felt in Homestead and Elliot Key further south. Had Andrew made landfall just 10 miles farther north, he would've hit Miami directly and been much more destructive than he was. Ryan1000 16:37, September 7, 2017 (UTC)


 * @Ryan: Still find it dubious we would see that much weakening but we will see. This storm is relatively unpredictable. --Whiplash (talk) 16:58, September 7, 2017 (UTC)
 * Well, it's possible Irma might be stronger than 145 mph, the NHC expected Irma to be a 160 mph hurricane at this location a few days ago when it first became a cat 5, and it's still a powerful 175 mph category 5 hurricane right now (2 PM advisory weakened Irma's pressure slightly to 922 mbars but winds are the same). It wouldn't surprise me if Irma is a 150-155 mph cat 4 when she hits near the city sometime this weekend, but I'd be surprised if Irma maintained cat 5 intensity by the time it hits the Miami area. We'll see, but Miami needs all the help and prayers they can get right now, because unless Irma changes course or weakens further before hitting Florida, she could easily be costlier than Harvey's estimated 150-190 billion in total damage. Ryan1000 18:08, September 7, 2017 (UTC)
 * Models shifting west, Euro not good news for Tampa area but would be good news for Savannah. I'm evacuating tonight, too big of a threat. Owen 19:13, September 7, 2017 (UTC)
 * Still bad news for Miami, Tallahassee, Jacksonville, Orlando, and into Georgia later.-- <font face="Courier New">Isaac829 <font face="Courier New">E-Mail  19:19, September 7, 2017 (UTC)

Landfall on Turks and Caicos
Appears Irma will be making multiple landfalls on this territory in short order potentially on the Grand Turk and Middle Caicos. Looks like Cockburn Town the capital is going to take a direct hit from the eye wall. Massive destruction expected here and many tourists are trapped. Surprising how little coverage this is going to get as Cockburn Town has a population of nearly 4,000. --Whiplash (talk) 19:31, September 7, 2017 (UTC)


 * According to Klotzbach these islands have never had a direct landfall from a Category 5. Closest Cat 5 to these islands was Cuba-Brownsville in 1933. I expect we are going to see unprecedented destruction and loss of life here again. :( --Whiplash (talk) 19:50, September 7, 2017 (UTC)
 * I hope Cockburn Town is not demolished, but with the sheer intensity of this thing... it's probably inevitable. :( The northern coast of Hispaniola is also currently getting lashed by this beast. Also, everyone in southern Florida should be evacuating, especially those along the coast. This is a doomsday hurricane for everyone in the northern Caribbean territories, Puerto Rico, northern Hispaniola coast, Turks&Caicos, Bahamas, and Florida, and likely for Georgia and the Carolinas as well. Irma is in fourth place for the longest duration as a C5 in Atlantic records, and it is also the longest-lasting retainer of 185+ mph winds (36 hours, beating Haiyan's previous record). Irma is going to rival the Cuba hurricane for the first record according to the forecast, which keeps it as a C5 through another whole 24 hours. Further catastrophic devastation is inevitable in the Turks&Caicos, Bahamas and Florida, after causing extreme carnage in the northern Lessers, Puerto Rico and northern Hispaniola. Pray for them... Beware the I of the storm!!!!! ~ <font face="Impact"> Steve    Talk Page  My Edits  📧  19:57, September 7, 2017 (UTC)


 * Like for the upper Lessers, this may be an unprecedented disaster in the Turks and Caicos, and Irma may become the longest-lived Atlantic cat 5 if it maintains that intensity through tomorrow and even Saturday morning. Mandatory evacuations are in place for the Miami area and if the current track holds, Irma could be the worst hurricane to hit the city since 1926, if not forever. Ryan1000 20:34, September 7, 2017 (UTC)
 * 5 PM advisory is out, Irma's intensity is unchanged, but the track has now shifted back west to a solid landfall over Miami and going up the entire state of Florida, likely due to the westward trend of the Euro again. It would be worse for Florida if it pans out, but Savannah wouldn't get a major hurricane landfall if this happens. Ryan1000 21:02, September 7, 2017 (UTC)
 * Really depends how it angles itself in its turn north as to where the impacts will go in the long run however it is almost certain Miami is going to get devastated. This is the big one everyone has been fearing. Also reports that Irma has made landfall in the Turks and Caicos now. Waiting for more details and info from Cockburn town where I am anticipating massive destruction. Bahamas is next. --Whiplash (talk) 21:13, September 7, 2017 (UTC)

Still trying to get confirmation as to whether Irma made landfall on Salt Cay which has Balfour Town a community of 184 people on it. If it didn't it still just went through her northeast eyewall along with Cockburn Town. Appears Irma will make landfall on the Ambergris Cays which only have 50 people on them. --Whiplash (talk) 21:32, September 7, 2017 (UTC)


 * Also noting the almost due west motion of Irma in last few frames. Hopefully it doesn't nudge any further north or it could threaten the most major population center of the Turks and Caicos - Providenciales - population of almost 23,000 with the worst of the storm. --Whiplash (talk) 21:41, September 7, 2017 (UTC)
 * Irma's been stairsteping in her motion, and for extremely powerful hurricanes like Irma, that's not uncommon. It was farther north earlier tody than it had been expected, and it may shift north again soon after the westward movement. But even if the storm doesn't directly pass over an area, Irma is still a large and powerful storm; hurricane-force winds go out 70 miles from the center, and TS force winds go out 185 miles. The NHC said in their forecast discussion that northern Cuba could be getting hurricane-force winds from this even though it's not expected to make landfall there. Also, it looks like the NHC has upped the projected windspeed of Irma before her upcoming Florida landfall to 155 mph, just short of category 5. Ryan1000 22:00, September 7, 2017 (UTC)
 * At the 8 PM advisory,pressure DOWN and winds still 175.
 * Could Irma be planning to one-up Miami 1926 AND Okeechobee 1928?12.144.5.2 00:01, September 8, 2017 (UTC)

...IRMA PUMMELING THE TURKS AND CAICOS ISLANDS...
 * I dunno. Florida better prepare. I hope that it won't cause a lot of deaths. Hurricanes, hurricanes, hurricanes!-68.106.0.77 01:27, September 8, 2017 (UTC)
 * Irma's down to 919 mbars now. As much as I hate to say this, it may not be impossible for this to be a cat 5 when it approaches or hits Florida...I hope it doesn't, this is looking worse and worse for Miami. Ryan1000 02:14, September 8, 2017 (UTC)

This is looking more and more like a worst-case scenario for Miami. I hope everyone is prepared. Also, Ryan, I remember you referring to Harvey as Harvageddon, and I think now, that it would make sense to refer to Irma as "Irmageddon." Leeboy100 Beware Irma's Fury. Thinking of Texas. 02:29, September 8, 2017 (UTC)


 * An eyewall replacement cycle is well underway, with about a third of the inner eyewall open. Unfortunately this means that Irma could (and looking at conditions ahead probably will) reintensify as it approaches Miami. "Irmageddon" is indeed an appropriate description. ~ KN2731 {talk} 02:34, September 8, 2017 (UTC)

A matter of perspective...this is clearly between ...SOME SCATTERED SHOWERS ALONG THE AFRICAN COAST ARE BEGINNING TO SHOW POTENTIAL FOR DEVELOPMENT... on the low end and ...WINDS IN EXCESS OF SOUND BARRIER NOW EXTEND OVER 1000 MILES FROM CORE OF CATEGORY 10 SUPERHURRICANE MECHAGODZILLA... ...ORGANIZATION HAS IMPROVED TO REGIMENTED PRECISION AT SUBATOMIC LEVEL... ...LAST HURRICANE HUNTER AIRCRAFT SUCKED INTO EYE AS CENTRAL PRESSURE DIPS BELOW 0.1 NANOBARS... ...CLOUD TOPS NOW CHILLED TO BELOW ABSOLUTE ZERO... ...FLORIDA WILL BE DOWN THERE WITH ATLANTIS BY THE TIME YOU READ THIS... ...THAT'S ALL FOLKS!... on the high end.12.144.5.2 02:49, September 8, 2017 (UTC)

165 mph, 920 mbars. Hurricane warnings for South Florida and the Keys have been issued. Anonymous 2.0 (talk) 03:00, September 8, 2017 (UTC)

Discussion doesn't seem to think it will make any recovery of strength from the eyewall replacement,though it's expected to weaken slowly and stay Cat 5 for 24 to 35 hours.12.144.5.2 03:05, September 8, 2017 (UTC)


 * (edit conflict) It's fortunate to see Irma weakening, hopefully it continues to do so over the next day or two before it hits Florida. Unfortunately, this may also just be temporary, as Irma is undergoing an ERC right now and could reintensify before hitting the state; even if it doesn't re-strengthen, the NHC track forecast still expects Irma to be a 155 mph hurricane before hitting the Miami area, and that's more than bad enough. Ryan1000 03:06, September 8, 2017 (UTC)


 * Considering the SST we can not rule out a restrengthening. Also the structure of the storm is changing and it may be to its advantage where less of the storm is being affected by the topography of Cuba. --Whiplash (talk) 03:09, September 8, 2017 (UTC)

It's weakening. What worries me though is that the NHC is almost always conservative with their predictions. Irma is forecast to be 155 mph at landfall. If that is conservative, we may have a Cat. 5 landfall. I hope that doesn't happen, but it could. Leeboy100 Beware Irma's Fury. Thinking of Texas. 03:14, September 8, 2017 (UTC)

Thanks to Irma, ACE for the NAtl is poised to rise above EPac ACE with the next advisory. ~ KN2731 {talk} 03:23, September 8, 2017 (UTC)


 * See that's the thing once it makes the turn the final approach to Florida has insanely warm waters. Final intensification before landfall is extremely likely and many models play this out. While it is good to hope for a 4. I am fairly convinced it will be a 5 upon landfall. --Whiplash (talk) 03:25, September 8, 2017 (UTC)

...HURRICANE AND STORM SURGE WARNINGS ISSUED FOR SOUTH FLORIDA AND THE FLORIDA KEYS...
 * Yay, it's weakening. I hope it weakens some more before landfall in Florida. South Florida and the Florida Keys have received both hurricane and storm surge warnings. Hurricanes, hurricanes, hurricanes! -68.106.0.77 05:10, September 8, 2017 (UTC)

Landfall on Little Inagua (Bahamas)
Irma is getting ready for what appears will be the first of two landfalls on Bahamian territory before it makes its final approach to the United States. The island is uninhabited which is nice. However second landfall will be on the Ragged Island Chain which does have some population of like 72 people. --Whiplash (talk) 03:31, September 8, 2017 (UTC)

Codrington and Cockburn Town are scarcely a warmup for Miami.12.144.5.2 03:38, September 8, 2017 (UTC)


 * Irma's latest track has it making landfall in south-central Florida to the southwest of Miami, but if Irma does indeed restrengthen in the Straits of Florida and become a strong, 180+ mph cat 5 again, then she'll be more inclined to turn north sooner which means the track could shift farther east again directly over Miami by later today or Saturday. Ryan1000 04:07, September 8, 2017 (UTC)
 * I'm still concerned in Tampa. Miami, Orlando, and Tampa might be the targets of Irma if the NHC forecast verifies. Owen 04:15, September 8, 2017 (UTC)

Latest advisory knocks winds down to 160. It's weakening, but has a chance to restrengthen, unfortunately. Leeboy100 Beware Irma's Fury. Thinking of Texas. 05:48, September 8, 2017 (UTC)

Major Hurricane Irma (4th time)
It's about goddamn time. 135 kts/925 mbar. Here's hoping it weakens considerably more before it hits Florida. --Dylan (HurricaneMaker99) 08:53, September 8, 2017 (UTC)

New advisory downgraded Irma. No longer a category 5, but still extremely dangerous. Leeboy100 Beware Irma's Fury. Thinking of Texas. 08:57, September 8, 2017 (UTC)


 * Irma isn't expected to weaken any further in the straits of Florida through today and tomorrow, except to 150 mph before it makes landfall in Florida. Ryan1000 09:35, September 8, 2017 (UTC)
 * Can we count on Irma's mood once emerged from the eyewall-changing routine?12.144.5.2 10:21, September 8, 2017 (UTC)


 * Well then, that was short lived. Tropical Tidbits puts Irma BACK at 140 kts/925. Yay... - Emma


 * Not so fast, Irma. 150 mph, 927 mbars. Anonymous 2.0 (talk) 12:03, September 8, 2017 (UTC)

...CORE OF HURRICANE IRMA FORECAST TO MOVE BETWEEN THE CENTRAL BAHAMAS AND THE NORTH COAST OF CUBA TODAY...
 * Yay, it finally weakens to a Category 4. This potential catastrophic hurricane is going to make landfall in Florida (plz not surpass 2005 damage totals). Hurricanes, hurricanes, hurricanes!-68.106.0.77 14:28, September 8, 2017 (UTC)


 * Looking at microwave imagery the ERC just ended. Given Irma still has about 48 hours to landfall, this is not good. ~ KN2731 {talk} 14:28, September 8, 2017 (UTC) UPDATE: Okay recon just found a 143-knot surface wind. No words. ~ KN2731 {talk} 14:32, September 8, 2017 (UTC)
 * At what point will NHC switch to a faster position/advisory schedule as Irma approaches Florida?12.144.5.2 16:00, September 8, 2017 (UTC)

Landfall on Ragged Island (Bahamas)
Irma getting ready for her final landfall before her date with Florida. --Whiplash (talk) 16:15, September 8, 2017 (UTC)
 * I have a really bad feeling and I have a prediction to make. I have a funny feeling this will be Tampa Bay's overdue hurricane. If it hits, 115 mph Cat 3. Westward trend is concerning for me and even with Cuba land interaction it's going to be a major wherever it hits. Owen 17:35, September 8, 2017 (UTC)
 * Irma's preparations include dropping pressure and getting winds back up to 155 mph.That island will be REALLY ragged!12.144.5.2 18:19, September 8, 2017 (UTC)
 * Irma still isn't forecast to become a cat 5 by NHC, perhaps due to close interaction with Cuba, but it's still very large and powerful even if it doesn't. I'm not sure if Irma will head far enough west to be a doomsday scenario for Tampa, but the doomsday scenario for Miami has also become slimmer. It's possible Irma might hit neither Tampa or Miami directly if the current forecast verifies, which would be a best-case scenario for Florida, but it would still be very bad regardless. However, it may still be too soon to tell for sure, the latest bit of the storm floater loop shows a northward jog. Ryan1000 19:58, September 8, 2017 (UTC)
 * Actually,the 5PM advisory from the NHC does have 160 mph winds at the 36-hour mark!12.144.5.2 21:18, September 8, 2017 (UTC)
 * Looks like we might have a landfall in Cuba before Florida. Track looking better for Miami yet it looks like it will be Cat 5. --Whiplash (talk) 22:23, September 8, 2017 (UTC)
 * Jim Cantore seen at TIA. Euro and GFS really like a path through Tampa. Owen 23:06, September 8, 2017 (UTC)

...HURRICANE CONDITIONS SPREADING WESTWARD OVER PORTIONS OF CUBA AND THE CENTRAL BAHAMAS... ...HURRICANE WARNINGS EXTENDED NORTHWARD ALONG THE FLORIDA PENINSULA...
 * Storm Surge Watches/Warnings are issued in the bottom part of Florida. Hurricanes, hurricanes, hurricanes!-68.106.0.77 23:33, September 8, 2017 (UTC)

...IRMA'S SOUTHWESTERN EYEWALL MOVING OVER THE NORTH COAST OF CUBA...
 * 24 deaths have occurred so far. Hurricanes, hurricanes, hurricanes! -68.106.0.77 00:00, September 9, 2017 (UTC)

As of the 8PM advisories,Irma has dropped one millibar and Jose two but winds are unchanged for now.I saw NBC News report live from Miami at 6:30 but they promised they would not be there tomorrow.12.144.5.2 00:06, September 9, 2017 (UTC)


 * Irma's track has now shifted far enough west to leave Miami on the easternmost part of the cone, so hopefully they get off easier from this than the west coast of Florida. Cuba is now getting the northern eyewall from Irma, and the NHC forecast now calls for Irma to be a cat 5 in the straits of Florida before heading onto the west coast of Florida. If the current GFS and Euro runs verify, Irma would end up being a terrible storm for Tampa, and the first major hurricane to hit the bay since 1921, but back then, like Miami in 1926, the city was much smaller than today. A cat 4 in Tampa would be one of the worst-case scenarios for damage from a landfalling category 4 or stronger hurricane in the U.S (after Hoston, (which already got Harvey), Miami and New York), and probably the worst-case scenario for storm surge due to Tampa bay's tucked-back position and the large stretch of offshore shallow water off of Florida's west coast...I thought Tampa would get off easy from this, but now it's entirely possible they could get the eastern eyewall, and that would be terrible to see. Ryan1000 01:27, September 9, 2017 (UTC)
 * Wow...whenever Irma turns to north it has to be perfect to stay on the NHC forecast track. To break it down, if the turn is a litle early it will go more toward Miami. A little later and it goes to the most overdue city for a hurricane: Tampa. Owen 01:42, September 9, 2017 (UTC)
 * Owen,are you sucessfully relocated?
 * Klotzbach is saying on Twitter that Irma is making landfall on Cuba as a Cat 4.12.144.5.2 02:54, September 9, 2017 (UTC)

Category 5 Hurricane Irma (2nd time) – Landfall on Camaguey Archipelago (Cuba)
Landfall as a Cat 5.-- <font face="Courier New">Isaac829 <font face="Courier New">E-Mail  03:02, September 9, 2017 (UTC)

Here we go again... Leeboy100 Beware Irma and Jose's fury.. 03:01, September 9, 2017 (UTC)


 * Sigh... another landfall. Hurricanes, hurricanes, hurricanes!-68.106.0.77 03:06, September 9, 2017 (UTC)
 * And at 160 mph winds...though NHC now forecasts it will be going below that strength before hitting Florida.12.144.5.2 03:08, September 9, 2017 (UTC)
 * It looks like Irma is now one of only two category 5 hurricanes to hit Cuba at cat 5 strength, alongside the 1924 Cuba Hurricane, which was the strongest to hit the country. Irma's track has also continued to shift west, and now the western eyewall is forecast to move over Tampa as a cat 4 while just inland in Florida. If Irma's track continues to shift west, then Tampa may be in store for a direct hit from the eastern eyewall. Ryan1000 03:16, September 9, 2017 (UTC)
 * The west coast of Florida including Tampa Bay is being screwed by the hour. 20 miles more west and Tampa will get a 20 ft storm surge. I've called this landfall in this area days ago before he models and NHC did. Models are coming to a consensus between Fort Myers and Tampa. Absolutely monstrous and disturbing thought to think that now I may come home to nothing after all of this is said and done. Owen 03:29, September 9, 2017 (UTC)
 * And I didn't know that it's a Category 5 until then. Hurricanes, hurricanes, hurricanes! -68.106.0.77 03:47, September 9, 2017 (UTC) P.S. Damage totals as of now are at $1.38 billion.


 * Owen, I assume you're successfully relocated by now. Pray that your house isn't destroyed! I would be sad if you will no longer be able go back to your (old) home ever again... Irma is the most doomsday-ish hurricane I've ever tracked. Now northern Cuba is getting LASHED with powerful, catastrophic winds. It's also forecast to strike near Tampa as a strong, dangerous C4. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if it once again reintensifies to a C5 over the very warm waters of the Gulf Stream. This is Florida's Katrina! This and Harvey could make 2017 the costliest season ever, beating 2005... and not to mention, there is still room for more devastation as we have most of September and October left (and November, although devastating hurricanes are rare in that month, except for Otto, Paloma, and likely others I missed). If another monster forms later this month or October (or even November), we have certainly the most costliest season ever. I have a feeling that global warming could be responsible for Harvey and Irma's strength, and why these storms did the things they did. In case you are wondering, I will add the Irma link to my adage when I use it again once the "I" storm comes in 2018, and I will add this storm to my retirements once it dissipates. Beware the I of the storm!!!!! ~ <font face="Impact"> Steve   Talk Page  My Edits  📧  03:58, September 9, 2017 (UTC)


 * Harvey alone could have made this season the costliest ever... Irma's making things worse. Also, is it me, or does Irma appear to be slowing down? ~ KN2731 {talk} 04:13, September 9, 2017 (UTC)
 * You're right...if previous estimates of $160 and $190 billion turn out to be true, goodbye 2005! But I feel there is a good chance they could be overestimated though (I hope). Anyway, 2017 is certainly going to go down as the costliest season ever when it's all done, because of Harvey, this monster, and any potential monsters that could form between now and the end of the season. ~ <font face="Impact"> Steve   Talk Page  My Edits  📧  04:27, September 9, 2017 (UTC)

Sorry to break into this conversation but have been watching the satellite imagery of Irma and it appears the sharp turn towards Florida has begun Irma had been making an ever so slight west even south west motion into Cuba last few images but now has sharply begun turning north-west. This kind of turn could lead it more towards Miami if it chooses this angle of approach and the latest GFS has moved the storm eastward again ever so slightly. --Whiplash (talk) 04:40, September 9, 2017 (UTC)

I think this might be the worst 'I' named storm ever. All of these Category 5 landfalls, and all of the damage it's caused. I've never seen an Atlantic hurricane this frightening (Except maybe Katrina) in my life. Beware the I of the storm!!!!! Leeboy100 Beware Irma and Jose's fury.. 05:07, September 9, 2017 (UTC)
 * I still think my prediction of Sarasota landfall for Irma is holding. New Euro is VERY alarming for Tampa Bay and GFS wants a little further east and I think landfall somewhere between Fort Myers and Tampa. Not going to be good, but better than the eyewall hitting Pinellas and Hillsborough Counties head on. Definitely would be a factor in the mayoral race this fall in St. Pete even from political standpoints besides the catastrophic damage that could occur. The most overdue city for a hurricane might finally be paying. Owen 06:06, September 9, 2017 (UTC)

At 2AM,pressure up slightly,winds still 160.Forecast track straight through Tampa.12.144.5.2 06:06, September 9, 2017 (UTC)

Major Hurricane Irma (5th time)
Down again to 155 mph. Parts of the system appear to be losing significant organization from interaction with Cuba. Not clear whether it will be able to reorganize before crossing the final body of water to Florida. That would be good news. It could however as waters are exceedingly warm. --Whiplash (talk) 09:44, September 9, 2017 (UTC)


 * Irma appears to have lost a lot of her thunderstorm activity due to her interaction with northern Cuba, and the track has now shifted west enough to bring the center right over Tampa, and it's possible it could make a landfall that far north. That's not good, and it's expected to be a strong cat 4 when it does so. Ryan1000 10:35, September 9, 2017 (UTC)


 * This is weakening very quickly over Cuba, going from 155 mph to 130 mph in only 3 hours. At this rate, Irma might be below major hurricane strength if this trend continues while Irma is over Cuba. Damages on Saint Martin/Sint Marteen are up to ~$2.44 billion at the moment. T  G  2 0 1 7 13:45, September 9, 2017 (UTC)
 * My prediction is still going to be 115 mph Cat 3 Sarasota area landfall. A major hurricane like Irma going through Tampa Bay following that landfall is going to be devastating. Owen 14:57, September 9, 2017 (UTC)

941 mbars, 125 mph. Wow, this became a C3 so fast. However, Irma is forecast to restrengthen back to C4 before hitting Florida. Miami got a (relatively) lucky escape from this one as Irma did not give Miami a direct hit/landfall. Anonymous 2.0 (talk) 14:58, September 9, 2017 (UTC)

This storm is getting ripped apart. Not sure it will be able to reorganize in any significant way before Florida landfall. --Whiplash (talk) 15:09, September 9, 2017 (UTC)


 * Unfortunately Irma's inner core remains intact; it just lost a lot of convection especially on the western flank. Once the core moves further north Irma could significantly intensify once more. ~ KN2731 {talk} 15:17, September 9, 2017 (UTC)

...IRMA CONTINUES TO POUND THE NORTH COAST OF CUBA... ...FORECAST TO RESTRENGTHEN WHILE HEADING FOR SOUTH FLORIDA AND THE KEYS...
 * Man, I hope that it will not strengthen some more although it is forecasted to strengthen. Hurricanes, hurricanes, hurricanes!-68.106.0.77 15:54, September 9, 2017 (UTC)
 * It already is right now...-- <font face="Courier New">Isaac829 <font face="Courier New">E-Mail  16:16, September 9, 2017 (UTC)
 * You know, the NHC headquarters is on Miami, Florida. Miami may be impacted by the hurricane and the headquarters may have a little impact on that. Hurricanes, hurricanes, hurricanes!-68.106.0.77 17:03, September 9, 2017 (UTC)

Convection flaring up in Cuba yet. Looks like it is attempting to reorganize it's structure and eye yet again. Tampa looks like it is going to take a direct hit. Bad news as I have an aunt and grandmother living in the city, who were planning to ride out the storm when it looked like it was heading towards Miami. :( --Whiplash (talk) 18:26, September 9, 2017 (UTC) ...IRMA LINGERING OVER THE NORTH COAST OF CUBA... ...MAJOR HURRICANE FORCE WINDS EXPECTED OVER THE FLORIDA KEYS AT DAYBREAK...
 * Oh my, how unfortunate it is. :( Well, I hope your aunt and grandmother stay safe! Hurricanes, hurricanes, hurricanes!-68.106.0.77 18:36, September 9, 2017 (UTC)
 * Euro run still insists on a landfall somewhere between Fort Myers and Pinellas County in Tampa. Owen


 * I have never seen a storm this catastrophic in my life. Fun Fact: All of Irma's landfalls so far has been at Category 5 intensity. This is also the costliest storm on record for the Lesser Antilles, with approximately more than $10 billion. Like I have said before, this is the worst case scenario for all countries in its path. The Lessers for example, also Puerto Rico, first C5 landfall in Cuba in 93 YEARS, and the worst of them all is "Hurricane Phoenix" for Tampa. T  G  2 0 1 7 19:04, September 9, 2017 (UTC)
 * Yeah, this is a total nightmare. Irma is going to be extremely deadly and costly once it is all done. I'd give this thing an ∞% chance of retirement if I could. I'm not adding Irma to my retirements until it dissipates first, as I'm going by my rule placed at the bottom of my retirement section. It is looking pretty likely that Owen's (old) home might be completely wiped out by Irma. This is like a hurricane from "Day After Tomorrow". What a catastrophe, this rivals Haiyan as the scariest storm I ever tracked. I hope Whiplash's aunt and grandmother stay safe :(... Beware the I of the storm!!!!! ~ <font face="Impact"> Steve   Talk Page  My Edits  📧  19:23, September 9, 2017 (UTC)

Dvorak intensity has gone from 5-6 in 4 hours and the thing has hardly moved over the Florida Straits. We are looking at a Category 5 landfall on the Florida Keys potentially. --Whiplash (talk) 19:47, September 9, 2017 (UTC)

Ughhh. Irma is now restrengthening. I hate to say it, but another Category 5 landfall is looking very likely. God, can't the Atlantic just produce a fishspinning Category 5 just once? Why do all of these Category 5's have to hit land? Beware the I of the storm. Leeboy100 Beware Irma and Jose's fury.. 19:54, September 9, 2017 (UTC)

At 5PM,dropped pressure but no wind speed increase yet...forecast to reach 140 mph before landfall,but not 160.12.144.5.2 21:20, September 9, 2017 (UTC)

At 7PM,pressure down a little but winds still 125.12.144.5.2 23:38, September 9, 2017 (UTC)

At 8PM,pressure steady and winds DOWN to 120...is it eyewall replacement time?12.144.5.2 23:56, September 9, 2017 (UTC)


 * Irma's expected to re-intensify to a 140 mph hurricane as it heads northward towards her landfall in Florida, but the landfall location is expected to be south of Tampa. Despite that, the circulation may pass just west of or over the city, so they could get a strong storm surge from the eastern eyewall if the current track pans out, even if Irma doesn't directly make landfall there. But even though it's not making landfall yet, the storm is still producing strong flooding rains due to Irma's slow movement of only 7 mph, and a slew of tornadoes are touching down over the southern part of the state. As a side note, like I mentioned earlier, due to Irma's extensive amount of time spent as an extremely strong hurricane, Irma is now one of only 5 Atlantic hurricanes to have racked up more than 60 ACE units; the others were Hurricane Isabel, the 1893 Charleston Hurricane, Hurricane Ivan and the 1899 San Ciriaco Hurricane. Ryan1000 00:54, September 10, 2017 (UTC)
 * At 9 PM,pressure steady,winds back up to 125.Those five ACEs make a pretty scary hand.12.144.5.2 01:26, September 10, 2017 (UTC)
 * 10 PM,pressure back up slightly and winds back down to 120.12.144.5.2 02:03, September 10, 2017 (UTC)

NHC no longer sees Irma reintensifying to Cat 4 before landfall in Florida. May in fact weaken further. --Whiplash (talk) 03:05, September 10, 2017 (UTC)

11 PM has pressure and wind speed constant from 10,with the center 90 miles from Key West.Eyewall replacement has been detected,wind speed now expected to peak at 125mph in 12 hours,with Irma a post-tropical depression in 3 days and dissipated in 5.Is the end really in sight?12.144.5.2 03:09, September 10, 2017 (UTC)


 * Irma taking its time to make landfall in Florida, this is a total nightmare. Hurricanes, hurricanes, hurricanes!-68.106.0.77 03:17, September 10, 2017 (UTC)
 * Midnight has pressure down one millibar and winds steady,80 miles from Key West.12.144.5.2 04:18, September 10, 2017 (UTC)
 * 1 AM update STILL has it 80 miles from Key West,and winds still 120 mph,but pressure down to 931mb/27.49 inHg.Is Irma pausing to get the new eyewall in gear before making a final charge?12.144.5.2 05:06, September 10, 2017 (UTC)

Back to a Category 4, this is getting worse. Leeboy100 Beware Irma and Jose's fury.. 06:02, September 10, 2017 (UTC)


 * 2 AM update has its winds up to 130 mph making it a Cat. 4 hurricane. Hurricanes, hurricanes, hurricanes!-68.106.0.77 06:04, September 10, 2017 (UTC)

70 miles from Key West and "forecase to restrengthen a little more" from 130 mph.This must be a scary night for those ride-it-out folks,may it not be their last!12.144.5.2 06:04, September 10, 2017 (UTC)
 * Berg set the forecast too low in the first place. Now, Irma's making a beeline for high Cat 4/low Cat 5.-- <font face="Courier New">Isaac829 <font face="Courier New">E-Mail  06:08, September 10, 2017 (UTC)
 * Speak of the Devil...Irma is no longer expected to make a direct landfall on the coast near Naples or Fort Meyers, Irma is now expected to ride all the way up the West Coast of Florida and have the eastern eyewall move right over Tampa as a powerful major hurricane. This may be a near-worst-case scenario for Tampa if that holds. Couple that with Irma's large size, slow movement up the state, and the large amount of property in the storms path, and as hard as it is to admit it, Irma might possibly rival or even exceed the destruction caused by Hurricane Harvey only two weeks ago. Ryan1000 06:37, September 10, 2017 (UTC)

928 mbars, 130 mph. Irma is now near the Keys. May everyone in her path be safe from her wrath. Anonymous 2.0 (talk) 09:05, September 10, 2017 (UTC)
 * Wow, Tampa, Fort Myers and Naples are going to be a mess. GFS coming in agreement with Euro overnight, and brings Irma into Tampa Bay. Noticeably though, the Euro has Irma coming into Tampa Bay around 5 am while the official forecast calls for something around 2-ish am. High tide where I live in Indian Rocks Beach is around 4 am, and that difference in time could be significant. If Euro verifies, Irma is going to be Tampa's Katrina after all these years and they are not ready. Owen 10:14, September 10, 2017 (UTC)

Landfall in the Keys
Even if she doesn't hit at high tide, Tampa is by far the most vulnerable coastal city in the U.S. to the storm surge of a major hurricane, for two reasons. One is the enormous stretch of shallow coastal water off of Florida's west coast that can easily be pushed ashore by a hurricanes winds, and second is Tampa's positioning at the tucked-back end of Tampa bay which acts to funnel and heighten storm surge significantly, so even though Irma's going to be passing just west of the city as a category 3 hurricane, due to the aforementioned factors the storm surge in the city could be as high as 15 to 20 feet, which would be like that of a category 4 or 5 hurricane. Now, there isn't as much coastal property for a hurricane to destroy in Tampa as there is in a city like Miami or New York, but when you tack Fort Meyers, Naples, Punta Gorda, Port Charlotte, and every other city leading up to Tampa onto the storm surge destruction list from Irma, it's very unfortunate, but entirely possible, that Irma could rival or exceed the 130-190 billion damage estimate from Harvey's historic flooding in Houston a few weeks back. All that aside, the Keys are about to get a landfall from this, and assuming Irma maintains 130 mph winds when it does so in an hour or two, it would mark the first time on record that two Atlantic hurricanes hit the U.S. at category 4 or higher strength in one season. Ryan1000 12:39, September 10, 2017 (UTC)


 * Already getting reports of fatalities in the Florida Keys. At least 1 person has died after his truck went out of control on a wet road. The system itself looks quite ragged and this should prevent it from getting Cat 5 status that some have still been worried about. Edit: Apparently there have also been two other deaths in the State as well. --Whiplash (talk) 12:50, September 10, 2017 (UTC)
 * NHC tabbed the landfall as at 9:10AM at Cudjoe Key,pressure's been back up one millibar and winds at 130mph since 6 AM with the 130 forecast as of 5 AM to hold until 5 PM.They say in 3 days it will be post-tropical with 25mph winds but that's not what the Florida coasts are in for.This will be an object lesson on building codes with a lot of obsolete stock cleared out for replacement.12.144.5.2 14:07, September 10, 2017 (UTC)
 * 11 AM advisory has pressure rising,winds steady (forecast to be down to 125 mph in 12 hours and then sharply down after that).Just about the whole east coast of Florida is outside the "Hurricane force wind speeds probability" map but the west coast is taking the bullet the east dodged.12.144.5.2 15:08, September 10, 2017 (UTC)
 * This is somewhat off-topic, but The Weather Channel has the Red Mode for the second time this year. Anyway, Irma leaves the Florida Keys and heads for the Southwest Florida coast. Hurricanes, hurricanes, hurricanes!-68.106.0.77 16:09, September 10, 2017 (UTC)


 * Looks like Irma is weakening. Expect her to be downgraded to Cat 3 on next advisory. --Whiplash (talk) 16:31, September 10, 2017 (UTC)
 * Tampa is one of the most overdue cities for a hurricane. I hope this is not their Katrina... Irma is now predicted to make landfall close to Fort Myers, and then pass through Tampa as likely still a major hurricane. It would suck if Owen's home is completely destroyed by this monster. It's a very scary storm indeed. This very likely will become very costly and deadly for the Floridians. The Florida Keys are literally underwater as we speak. Pray that everyone riding out the storm survives and has good luck... ~ <font face="Impact"> Steve   Talk Page  My Edits  📧  17:02, September 10, 2017 (UTC)


 * I don't think Irma will get to Tampa as a major. Been watching recon flights and I think this thing is at best right now a weak 3 or a strong 2 as last plane run showed winds of only up to 95knts and pressure is now above 935. The storm looks terrible on satellite too right now. --Whiplash (talk) 17:33, September 10, 2017 (UTC)
 * Winds were still 130 mph at the 1 PM position update.(What's the source for tracking recon flights online?...does this wiki have a resource page?)12.144.5.2 17:48, September 10, 2017 (UTC)


 * See: https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/recon/ for updates on recon missions every 10 minutes. Last pass shows 936 pressure and last pass didn't suggest surface winds of higher than 95knts. --Whiplash (talk) 17:52, September 10, 2017 (UTC)


 * 2 p.m. is out storm is down to 120mph with 936 pressure. Storm looks like it will continue to weaken doubt it will be a major by time it gets to Tampa as it is weakening quickly. Structure of the storm is incredibly poor too. Doesn't really have a good eye. --Whiplash (talk) 18:01, September 10, 2017 (UTC)
 * Down to a Category 3, 120 mph/936 mb. Hurricanes, hurricanes, hurricanes! - 68.106.0.77 18:02, September 10, 2017 (UTC)

I think it is safe to say that this will be the worst storm for Tampa in many years it will not be a Hurricane Phoenix level event. --Whiplash (talk) 18:06, September 10, 2017 (UTC)


 * Looks like this storm may make landfall on Marcos island. Epic storm surge flood likely to start in about an hour and a half across south Florida near Naples. --Whiplash (talk) 18:19, September 10, 2017 (UTC)
 * Irma's western half is being eroded by some dry air and the storm is weakening due to interaction with Florida. It's still expected to be a dangerous hurricane when it passes near Tampa, but with Irma heading this far north this quickly without a westward jog, Irma might not ride up the coast as powerful as earlier forecast, which would be better for Tampa, but worse for the folks further south. 12, I edited the links on the main page for the wiki to include model forecasts and TC imagery, you can view it by clicking on the Hurricanes Wikia image on the top of the page. Ryan1000 18:29, September 10, 2017 (UTC)

Landfall on Marco Island/Naples
Irma is making its mainland landfall. Much south of what was anticipated. CNN looks like it is about to capture the eyewall within the next 5 minutes. --Whiplash (talk) 19:29, September 10, 2017 (UTC)

...CENTER OF HURRICANE IRMA MAKES LANDFALL AT MARCO ISLAND...


 * It's official, the NHC confirmed that Irma made landfall at Marco Island. Hurricanes, hurricanes, hurricanes!-68.106.0.77 19:48, September 10, 2017 (UTC)

(Edit conflict) Irma now making landfall, and Mike Bettes from TWC is in Naples, and is about to be in the eyewall. Leeboy100 Beware Irma and Jose's fury.. 19:53, September 10, 2017 (UTC)

And right as I type this, The Weather Channel is showing Bettes, who is now right in the eyewall. Leeboy100 Beware Irma and Jose's fury.. 20:03, September 10, 2017 (UTC)

By the way, I don't know if anyone has already mentioned this here, but Irma maintained Category 5 strength for 75 hours, the second-longest amount of time that an Atlantic hurricane was a Category 5. Only the 1932 Cuba hurricane was a Category 5 for longer. Leeboy100 Beware Irma and Jose's fury.. 20:28, September 10, 2017 (UTC)

Hurricane Irma (4th time)
Finally downgraded to a Category 2. Leeboy100 Beware Irma's fury. 20:57, September 10, 2017 (UTC)


 * Surge gauges are rising extremely rapidly around Naples. Here comes the surge. --Whiplash (talk) 21:11, September 10, 2017 (UTC)
 * The dangerous hurricane near Naples, Florida. Time for the deadliest feature of any hurricane, storm surge. Intensity is 110 mph/938 mb. Hurricanes, hurricanes, hurricanes!-68.106.0.77 21:34, September 10, 2017 (UTC)

I'm starting to feel the effects of Irma here, near the Pensacola area, as it's getting really windy outside. Let me repeat that, in the Pensacola area, near the Alabama border, well away from the center, we're getting winds. The NHC wasn't kidding when they said impacts would be felt across the entire state. Leeboy100 Beware Irma's fury. 22:53, September 10, 2017 (UTC)


 * The 8 PM advisory downs Irma to 105 mph and 942 mbars; in many ways this is turning out to be a best-case scenario for Florida. Irma is heading far enough east that Tampa probably will get the down winds from the storm, which will prevent the city from getting major storm surge, and Miami isn't getting hit too hard either. While it's still a bad hurricane for the area around Naples and Fort Meyers, that's much better than getting a cat 4 direct hit in Tampa or Miami, which Irma was forecast to do earlier in her lifetime. Ryan1000 23:59, September 10, 2017 (UTC)
 * I've been watching CNN coverage today (including a reporter showing the wreckage of the bar in Key Largo where he'd been Friday interviewing people who at the time planned to ride the storm out).They were showing West Palm with the power out (reporters seeing the transformers fail) even as the eye of the storm was on the other side of the state."Best case" is relative,I suppose.72.80.84.220 00:15, September 11, 2017 (UTC)
 * Of course there's still going to be a lot of damage in Florida, but as bad as Irma may turn out to be, this could've been much, much worse, had Irma made landfall over Miami or Tampa directly as a category 3-4 storm. Ryan1000

Oh, most certainly, Ryan. Considering how much worse this storm could have been, this is the best-case scenario. Hell, just about four days ago, it was looking like Miami would get a direct hit from a Category 5. Irma is still a really bad hurricane, but it could have been much, much worse. Leeboy100 Beware Irma's fury. 01:12, September 11, 2017 (UTC)

The eye is east of Sarasota,off the old forecast track.One way of looking at Irma is the ACE of the entire 2014 or 2015 season rolled into a single storm.12.144.5.2 02:28, September 11, 2017 (UTC)

...IRMA PRODUCING HURRICANE-FORCE WINDS ACROSS PORTIONS OF CENTRAL FLORIDA...


 * Intensity down to 100 mph/952 mb. Hurricanes, hurricanes, hurricanes!-68.106.0.77 03:53, September 11, 2017 (UTC)
 * I'm actually glad Florida avoided a worst-case scenario, but the impacts will still be very severe nonetheless. If Irma would have struck Tampa or Miami directly as a C5, it could've caused Katrina-like damages. The storm surge in Tampa Bay and surrounding coastlines could become pretty large. This is a huge storm - heavy flooding rain currently covers all of northern Florida except for the western panhandle, and rain is spreading into Alabama, Georgia, and South Carolina as well. Northeastern and Central Florida is getting the brunt of the rain. the heavy rain seems to have mostly ended for southern Florida except for quite a bit of scattered thunderstorms and showers. It doesn't appear that Leeboy is getting any rain yet but rain could be approaching him. I got all this info from the Weather Channel radar map. ~ <font face="Impact"> Steve   Talk Page  My Edits  📧  04:45, September 11, 2017 (UTC)
 * Down to cat 1 now, to 75 mph and 965 mbars. Irma should go down to a TS later today and dissipate tomorrow or Wednesday. Ryan1000 10:34, September 11, 2017 (UTC)

Tropical Storm Irma (2nd time)
Finally a TS again. Not only Miami dodged a bullet from this — it's actually the whole mainland Florida that got (relatively) lucky from this monster (especially if we will compare this to what happened in SE Texas during Harvey). However, the impacts in the Leewards and the Keys are more than enough for Irma to be retired after this season. This storm isn't over yet, though. Anonymous 2.0 (talk) 13:42, September 11, 2017 (UTC)


 * Downgraded to a TS, 70 mph/970 mb. Irma should dissipate tomorrow I believe. Hurricanes, hurricanes, hurricanes! - 68.106.0.77 14:27, September 11, 2017 (UTC)


 * Are you sure, Anonymous? Irma caused ~$112 billion in damages. T  G  2 0 1 7 20:18, September 11, 2017 (UTC)
 * That's likely an initial overestimate TG, Irma probably wasn't that destructive for Florida. I'd expect damages to be around 20-30 billion dollars, but not 100 billion for the U.S. Ryan1000 21:27, September 11, 2017 (UTC)

Yeah, that sounds like an overestimate. But it's still very likely to be one of the costliest hurricanes on record. Leeboy100 Beware Irma's fury, Never Forget. 22:18, September 11, 2017 (UTC)


 * As a side note, today is the 25th anniversary of Hurricane Iniki's landfall on Kauai in Hawaii, which made that year the first on record to have two category 4 U.S. landfalling hurricanes altogether, not just in the Atlantic. Ryan1000 22:23, September 11, 2017 (UTC)


 * The $112 billion will be dropped. 12 billion of those damages is from the Caribbean which is about correct however the other $100 billion is from Accu Weather who also gave us the $200 billion Harvey estimate which was also way too high. Based on estimates from financial modelers and insurance companies I've seen it looks more like Irma will cost between $25-$40 billion in the U.S. resulting in a final damage toll of around ~$50 billion provided damage amounts don't increase more from Cuba. This means Irma would likely be Florida's most expensive hurricane. The most expensive hurricane in the Caribbean by far as well as the 4th most costly hurricane in Atlantic history. I suppose we should be thankful as in some different scenarios this could have been so much worse however Irma will be gone as of the next WMO meeting in the spring her devastation is too great. --Whiplash (talk) 22:27, September 11, 2017 (UTC)
 * One stat recently offered is that Irma broke Sandy's record for most electrical customers knocked offline by a hurricane.12.144.5.2 22:38, September 11, 2017 (UTC)
 * Probably true. However, that alone would not account for a huge damage estimate. --Whiplash (talk) 22:55, September 11, 2017 (UTC)
 * 45 mph at 8 PM...we could be looking at Tropical Depression Irma soon,and tomorrow it may not even be tropical.12.144.5.2 00:32, September 12, 2017 (UTC)
 * Yeah, land interaction and strong southwesterly wind shear is weakening Irma quite quickly. The current NHC Irma graphic also shows TS-force winds extending over a huge area - from Alabama to the Carolinas and from central Florida to as far north as extreme southwestern Virginia. I think the $112 billion is a blatant overestimate. Damages seem to be more like $50-75 billion overall for its whole track. Of course, Irma is going to be one of the costliest hurricanes ever recorded. 2017 is very likely already the costliest season on record just because of Harvey and this hurricane. And we still have within 3 months until the end of the season; yet another disastrous beast can still form from here on out. In summary, 2017 is certain to become the costliest season ever recorded by the time 11/30 arrives. ~ <font face="Impact"> Steve   Talk Page  My Edits  📧  00:52, September 12, 2017 (UTC)
 * Sigh, this is going down as the costliest season of all. I had enough of this season (not yet). Hurricanes, hurricanes, hurricanes!-68.106.0.77 01:27, September 12, 2017 (UTC)

Tropical Depression Irma
Downgraded. Leeboy100 Beware Irma's fury, Never Forget. 02:36, September 12, 2017 (UTC)


 * Finally. Hopefully the remnants won't do further damage. Anonymous 2.0 (talk) 02:41, September 12, 2017 (UTC)

I just realized an interesting fact. Every year since 2014, there has been a Category 5 in the Western Hemisphere. The EPac had them in 2014 with Marie, and then 2015 with Patricia. Then the Atlantic had them with Matthew last year, and now Irma. Meanwhile, back on Irma, it is continuing to weaken. After Irma dies, I hope there will be no more hurricanes in the US, but considering we still have the rest of September, as well as October and November, it unfortunately probably won't be that way.

Edit: There is also a chance that Jose could be upgraded in post-season analysis, or (God-forbid) there could be another Category 5. Leeboy100 Beware Irma's fury, Never Forget. 04:07, September 12, 2017 (UTC)


 * Ok, that means I had seen one Category 5 in the Western Hemisphere every year since I started tracking hurricanes (2014). Hurricanes, hurricanes, hurricanes!-68.106.0.77 05:15, September 12, 2017 (UTC)
 * Although it is only at TD strength, it continues to have an exceedingly low pressure of 988 mbar. I assume that it is due to the broad cyclonic gyre it's embedded in, or it could be its structure itself. The discussion doesn't mention anything about baroclinicity. BTW, it is not necessarily "God-forbid" to have another Category 5, because a chance exists that we could get a fishspinning C5 that doesn't harm anyone whatsoever. That has never occurred in the Atlantic though, so it is very doubtful if that can even happen. It would be cool to see though. But God-forbid if we get another powerful landfalling monster along the lines of Irma and Harvey, or even a deadly tragedy like Mitch. Irma is finally dying out, but the results of its devastation and her legacy will last for a long, long time to come. It's time we say bye to what has been one of the scariest monsters I've ever tracked, along with Haiyan from 2013. GOOD RIDDANCE! ~ <font face="Impact"> Steve   Talk Page  My Edits  📧  05:32, September 12, 2017 (UTC)

Post-Tropical Cyclone Irma
NHC has issued their last advisory on Irma. The Weather Prediction Center is still issuing advisories, but Irma has lost most of her heaviest moisture, and it has spread out instead of concentrated over one particular location. Irma's remnants should cease for good before the week is over. Ryan1000 10:32, September 12, 2017 (UTC)


 * Whew, now Post-Tropical, thank god. I had enough of this monstrous hurricane. Hurricanes, hurricanes, hurricanes!-68.106.0.77 14:25, September 12, 2017 (UTC)
 * A remnant low with 10 mph winds...I don't think the WPC will bother past the 5PM advisory.12.144.5.2 15:20, September 12, 2017 (UTC)
 * Like with Harvey, we'll keep this up for another week or so to discuss the aftermath of Irma and any updated damage totals that come out before we archive Irma. Ryan1000 21:48, September 12, 2017 (UTC)
 * Tampa metro got out pretty lucky from Irma but she devastated the power infrastructure in my county. 70% of the county still remains without power and schools are closed here until Monday. Looks like she will still be one of the top 5 costliest hurricanes on record as well. Good riddance to Irma! Owen 23:36, September 12, 2017 (UTC)
 * This hurricane caused >$30 billion, >$20 billion is from the US alone. It caused 55 deaths so far. I just going to say, good riddance to this monstrous hurricane! Hurricanes, hurricanes, hurricanes!-68.106.0.77 02:03, September 13, 2017 (UTC)
 * WPC indeed announced the 5PM was the final advisory.12.144.5.2 03:00, September 13, 2017 (UTC)
 * Well, remnant moisture is currently extending across most of the whole central US according to the NHC satellite image. But the weather.com radar map shows that most of the rain has dissipated, except for light showers around southern Illinois to Tennessee. This is one of the costliest hurricanes on record, but at least it didn't end up as devastating as Harvey in terms of damages. Irma will be remembered as a catastrophic beast that decimated northeast Caribbean islands (like Barbuda), and caused a great path of devastation through the northern Lessers, Puerto Rico, northern Hispaniola, northern Cuba, Turks & Caicos, and of course Florida. For the last time: Good riddance, you naughty monster! ~ <font face="Impact"> Steve   Talk Page  My Edits  📧  05:44, September 13, 2017 (UTC)
 * Damage estimates are currently revised to be over 62 billion dollars, which isn't as much as Harvey is projected to cause but it'll still rank Irma as one of the top 5 costliest U.S. hurricanes on record. Irma has also killed at least 79 people; Harvey killed 71. Ryan1000 23:11, September 13, 2017 (UTC)
 * Sigh. I think this is going to be the costliest hurricane season on record. Only less than $26.9 billion to go before it surpasses the 2005's $158.9 billion. Hurricanes, hurricanes, hurricanes!-68.106.0.77 03:04, September 14, 2017 (UTC)

81 is the current death toll from this storm, 43 from the Caribbean, 38 from the United States. (Harvey's now stands at 83, 82 of those deaths in the U.S.) Thank God this storm is gone, and the name Irma will also be gone — for good. Anonymous 2.0 (talk) 02:08, September 15, 2017 (UTC)


 * All of these deaths are just saddening, to say the least. The damages were insane as well, and made Irma the 4th most costliest ever (preliminary). This vicious monster is certainly out for good when the spring of 2018 arrives. ~ <font face="Impact"> Steve   Talk Page  My Edits  📧  05:45, September 15, 2017 (UTC)