Forum:2013 Atlantic hurricane season

Only June 01 2013 00:00:00 UTC until the Atlantic hurricane season starts...

Future start
Coming in slightly more than one month :D.-- Isaac829 E-Mail  19:41, April 23, 2013 (UTC)

Could be earlier than that Isaac as the Euro,cmc and Gfs are hinting and actually showing sub tropical storm Andrea near the Florida coast in a week.even though is not likely it could very well happen.Allanjeffs 14:58, April 26, 2013 (UTC)


 * Looks kinda interesting, if this happens, it would be the second straight year with pre-season activity, like 2007-2008. While I think it'll be a while until we see Andrea, it's not out of the question we could see pre-season activity. No invests thus far this year; the last two seasons had some pre-season invests, including one that almost developed in early February last year. Ryan1000 15:18, April 26, 2013 (UTC)
 * I spy with my little eye...a blob in the GOM. This might have a chance if it doesn't crash into Florida. Ryan1000 12:56, May 1, 2013 (UTC)
 * That it would crash it would I think after it cross Florida it may have a chance.Allanjeffs 16:42, May 1, 2013 (UTC)
 * Meh, it's dead. Andrea will come later on. Ryan1000 18:12, May 2, 2013 (UTC)
 * Actually Ryan right now after Crossing Florida it looks the best it ever have if wasn`t for the front coming we may actually get something.Allanjeffs 20:34, May 3, 2013 (UTC)
 * Yeah, because of the front, I don't see much from this. The weather pattern this year is odd, with record heat, rain, and even snow in May, but I really don't know what the hurricane season will have in this ENSO-neutral season. The jetstream is in an odd position in the central U.S, but I don't know what this will mean for U.S. landfalls or impacts as 2013 progresses. 2005 was also ENSO-neutral, but that year had perfect conditions year round; it just didn't stop. I doubt 2013 will be like 2005, but it's not impossible. Ryan1000 15:54, May 4, 2013 (UTC)
 * The Atlantic hurricane season has begun! Andrew  Talk To Me  Contribs  Mail Me  00:09, June 1, 2013 (UTC)


 * 5and a half ours for me for the season to start.Allanjeffs 00:32, June 1, 2013 (UTC)

Betting pools
Atlantic and East Pacific. We have some new sections this year, and a modification for the pressure section for ranges of pressures instead of specific numbers. Also, the Hall of Fame is open, in case anyone wants to put their thoughts there. Ryan1000 22:15, September 27, 2012 (UTC)

AOI.SW Caribbean
This one looks like it'll become Karen after the above system becomes Jerry. 10% for two days and 30% for five. I don't expect this to become a huge storm, but it could become a TS, or maybe C1, as it moves northwest towards the GoM. Ryan1000 19:14, September 28, 2013 (UTC)

Imma think C2/3ish here, Brady. First major, woo! IT'S PEANUT BUTTER JERRY TIME! (and I liek trainz) 19:18, September 28, 2013 (UTC)


 * This might become a hurricane, but I'm not placing my money on a Category 2 or a major just yet. I will be watching out for Karen during the next few days. But who knows, Dylan (HM99)'s mom's name could become something significant... Steven09876 T 00:01, September 29, 2013 (UTC)
 * well lorenzo will definately crank it up. karen? I'm pretty confident about her ;) PEANUT SIGPIC.png IT'S PEANUT BUTTER JERRY TIME! (and I liek trainz) I like trains sigpic.png 00:50, September 29, 2013 (UTC)
 * This possible Karen will be a ts and maybe a cat 1 but conditions are not favorable for something strong as it will run into Cuba and then into Florida and it needs to fight against dry air.Allanjeffs 01:19, September 29, 2013 (UTC)

97L.INVEST
upgrade to 97l should become a td in the week and Karen later on.cat 1 at most if not a ts.Allanjeffs 07:35, September 29, 2013 (UTC)


 * Yeah, like I said, this won't be anywhere close to being a cat 2 or 3, cat 1 would be the best I'd expect from this. Only marginally favorable conditions for development and proximity to land should keep this storm from exploding, but I'd be quite surprised if this doesn't become Karen. Ryan1000 06:26, September 29, 2013 (UTC)
 * Fixed the header again Allan, sorry if this format isn't letting you get the header right. For future reference guys, if the headers are sticking out on you like that, you can switch the page format from visual mode to source mode (above where it says more+) and put the header back to the front of the page. Ryan1000 20:21, September 29, 2013 (UTC)


 * Invest 97L has a 20% chance of formation in the next two days and a 40% chance in the next five days. Gusty rainfall is expected for the Greater Antilles in the coming few days. By the way, no one has mentioned this yet, but 'K' names have been very cursed recently. The last 'K' storm that did not reach hurricane intensity was Tropical Storm Katrina in 1999. Since then, every Atlantic 'K' storm has reached hurricane intensity; in this streak you will find a trio of major hurricanes (Kate, Karl '04, Katrina) and two other destructive Latin American hurricanes (Keith and Karl '10). I am rooting for a Category 1 hurricane so the 'K' curse continues... Andrew  Talk To Me  Contribs  Mail Me  22:43, September 29, 2013 (UTC)
 * Considering this is 2013, the curse probably will be broken. --Dylan (HurricaneMaker99) 22:51, September 29, 2013 (UTC)


 * No problem Ryan,hmm this will maybe be a td or ts conditions are not even that favorable anymore for a hurricane this year have bring fail after fail.Allanjeffs 22:52, September 29, 2013 (UTC)
 * Down to 10% might not develop at all.Allanjeffs 00:12, September 30, 2013 (UTC)
 * Or MAYBE it might!?! Who knows? Pinkie pie eg sigpic.png Grape jelly and sour cream on spicy tortillas are the best. 19:07, September 30, 2013 (UTC)

This will now be an October storm if it does develop. Not that I expect it to anyways. Oh, and a round up from September, this year's ACE is currently 72% below average for this time of year. In fact, since 1950, only 4 seasons (1962, 1977, 1983, and 1994, 1983 and 1994 of which were El Nino years), had a lower ACE than this season so far. We've had a near-normal number of named storms so far (Jerry's our 10th), but only 2 hurricanes and still no majors. Typically we see 8 storms, 4 hurricanes, and 1 major by this time of year. Goes to show this year has really been dead up until now. But then again, October is no month to be taken lightly, as last year and 1998 showed. We could still see a historic storm in October, but like I said before, unless we get a miraculous explosion of activity in this month, we're not going to beat record-dead ACE numbers. Ryan1000 01:01, October 1, 2013 (UTC)


 * Wow, the ACE this year sucks!!! I don't think we will see a historic storm in October, considering that this is 2013. Back to the AOI, I think it might only be a tropical storm, but I'm really hoping for a hurricane out of this. We've had enough weak storms this season. Steven09876 T 02:33, October 1, 2013 (UTC)
 * Well, if it becomes a hurricane, hopefully not too strong. Now at 30% while Jerry still churns over water. Actually, it was revised to say 70% below average  ACE, but still. Ryan1000 23:46, October 1, 2013 (UTC)


 * Now at 70%, Air force is on it's way to see if we have Karen (or TD 12). Ryan1000 17:54, October 2, 2013 (UTC)


 * Might not be upgrade right now but up to 40mph in Atcf when upgrade it will go straight into Karen.Might be our third hurricane of the season.Allanjeffs 22:03, October 2, 2013 (UTC)


 * My failure-worn, 2013 self assures you that this won't get stronger than Jerry was at its peak. Looks like my mom will have to wait six more years, when the entire Atlantic hopefully isn't cursed. --Dylan (HurricaneMaker99) 22:14, October 2, 2013 (UTC)
 * Yeah, your mom's name might have to wait six more years, but who knows, the 2019 "Karen" could even be a fail. But anyway, I certainly think we will see Karen from this, although it will be yet another TS. Steven09876 T 22:54, October 2, 2013 (UTC)

Invest 97L is currently at an 80% chance of formation in the next two and five days. Sadly, another fail is in the making... Andrew Talk To Me  Contribs  Mail Me  11:26, October 3, 2013 (UTC)

AL, 97, 2013100306,, BEST, 0, 215N, 866W, 40, 1006, LO, 34, NEQ, 60, 50, 0, 0, 1011, 150, 45, 0, 0, L, 0, , 0, 0, INVEST, M, Up to 45mph and not even a ts.Might not become strong but at least is something to track.Allanjeffs 11:34, October 3, 2013 (UTC)

Tropical Storm Karen
Confirmed by the TWO and is expect to be upgrade with 60mph and be a hurricane.Allanjeffs 12:06, October 3, 2013 (UTC)

This looks to be poise to become our third hurricane before upper level winds make her weaken.The season still hasn`t end and some surprises may still come.Allanjeffs 12:11, October 3, 2013 (UTC)

Just got stronger. Now 65 mph and 1004 mb. Also expected to hit Southeastern United States in the next couple of days. Anonymous 2.0 (talk) 16:21, October 3, 2013 (UTC)
 * Wow, I expected to see Karen when I got home from school, but not a 55-knot strong TS! That ties it with Andrea and Chantal for the second-highest peak windspeed of any storm this season, after the 75 knots reached by Humberto and Ingrid. I'm not holding my breath - in fact, I think it would be in 2013 style for Karen to weaken until landfall - but I'm glad that it's as strong as it is now. --Dylan (HurricaneMaker99) 20:41, October 3, 2013 (UTC)
 * Well, like I mentioned before, it's not going to surprise me if it becomes a hurricane, but due to increasing shear in the northern gulf by the weekend, I doubt this'll be stronger than (if not nearly identical to) Cindy of '05, just in October. Ryan1000 22:02, October 3, 2013 (UTC)
 * OMGWTFBBQ :O This storm is scary. Very scary. I hope she is not like Isaac last year. OMG KAREN :O DAT KAREN IS FREAKISHLY SCARY.  Pinkie pie eg sigpic.png Grape jelly and sour cream on spicy tortillas are the best. 22:14, October 3, 2013 (UTC)
 * Wow, I expected Karen after I got home from school, but I didn't expect a 65-mph strong TS!! This will probably become a hurricane before falling victim to strong shear in the Gulf of Mexico. It's also threatening the U.S Gulf Coast. Stay tuned. Steven09876 T 22:47, October 3, 2013 (UTC)


 * Karen is becoming disorganized she has until tomorrow to become a hurricane if not she is going to die without reaching hurricane strength.Allanjeffs 23:35, October 3, 2013 (UTC)


 * Karen's pressure has fallen to 999 mbar (hPa; 29.50 inHg). It is expected to briefly reach 65 knots tomorrow. Andrew  Talk To Me  Contribs  Mail Me  00:56, October 4, 2013 (UTC)
 * And, in true 2013 style, the new advisory eliminates hurricane strength from Karen's forecast. --Dylan (HurricaneMaker99) 02:46, October 4, 2013 (UTC)


 * Lol that make me laugh,but yes the NHC is pretty confident this will not be our third hurricane,and with the majority of the models developing weak Lorenzo near the island.We should wait Melissa and Nestor for a hurricane.Allanjeffs 02:56, October 4, 2013 (UTC)


 * YES!!!!!! WEAKEN YOU PIECE OF SH*T!!!! I live in Florida ( in the path of this sotrm) and I don't need a hurricane leeb0y100 (talk) 11:35, October 4, 2013 (UTC)


 * Down to 50mph AL, 12, 2013100412,, BEST, 0, 253N, 901W, 45, 1003, TS, 34, NEQ, 120, 110, 0, 60, 1012, 125, 25, 0, 0, L, 0, , 0, 0, KAREN, M,.2013 continues to shine.Allanjeffs 12:19, October 4, 2013 (UTC)


 * Karen's pressure has risen to 1003 mbar (hPa; 29.62 inHg). The hurricane watch for the Gulf Coast has been cancelled. Man, 11 tropical storms, but only 2 hurricanes? Wow, what a dud season the Atlantic has been so far. Andrew  Talk To Me  Contribs  Mail Me  21:09, October 4, 2013 (UTC)


 * No! THAT'S GOOD I live on the Gulf Coast I don't need this crappy storm, I have plans >:( LEEBOY SAYS KAREN SUCKS leeb0y100 (talk) 21:16, October 4, 2013 (UTC)

Leeboy, I agree that you do not want Karen interfering on your plans, but I am upset because we are witnessing this all over again to a more pathetic extent. Andrew Talk To Me  Contribs  Mail Me  21:27, October 4, 2013 (UTC)

I'm sorry. leeb0y100 (talk) 21:49, October 4, 2013 (UTC)

GRRR! Why can't Karen become a hurricane?! I was really expecting our 3rd hurricane from this, but in true 2013 style, strong wind shear struck Karen and it's not going to become a hurricane anymore due to the stupid shear (not like I really wanted it to become a hurricane, or else it's destruction on the U.S Gulf Coast might be worse than it is expected to be). We are now 12-11-2, the Atlantic just can't stop producing failings! Steven09876 T 23:32, October 4, 2013 (UTC)

12-11-2? You mean 11-2-0 or if you count depression 1-11-2-0.Anyways Karen is affected by shear and dry air that combination can be lethal to tc.Allanjeffs 23:59, October 4, 2013 (UTC) Lol imma wait for a major Lorenzo lol. That name is too cute for a weakling storm. I think karen will ignore the haughty wind shear. Haughty and naughty. If Lorenzo is weak then YOU KNOW WHAT ILL DO Grape jelly and sour cream on spicy tortillas are the best. 00:02, October 5, 2013 (UTC)
 * It's down to 40 kts. --Dylan (HurricaneMaker99) 03:11, October 5, 2013 (UTC)


 * Convection is so far removed by this point that I wonder if Karen will even survive as a tropical cyclone to make its first brush with land in SE LA. It's pretty pathetic at this hour on satellite. With Karen failing, this year's ACE is pretty pitiful. In fact, looking over this year's statistics, unless something big happens in the Atlantic, East/Central Pacific, or the South Pacific basin east of the date line, 2013 will go down as having no major tropical cyclones (100kt+) in the ENTIRE WESTERN HEMISPHERE. Except for possibly 1968, there are no other years since accurate modern record-keeping began that this has happened. According to the data that I can find, this year's East Pacific ACE, with no further storms and no major adjustments, will be the second lowest recorded in modern times, only surpassing 1977, and the Atlantic ACE with no further activity and no adjustments will be the third lowest in modern times. A rather pitiful, pitiful year if you ask me! TheMagnificentEquusStorm (talk) 09:54, October 5, 2013 (UTC)


 * And I thought 2010 was pathetic enough (aside from the Atlantic). The SPAC could get a December major and save us at the last minute. Anyway, wih Karen, it has fallen to 35 knots (40 mph, 65 km/h)/1007 mbar (hPa; 29.74 inHg), and at the rate it is collapsing, even though the NHC forecasts it to make landfall in Louisiana as a weak tropical storm, it could easily pull a Bonnie (2010). Andrew  Talk To Me  Contribs  Mail Me  11:20, October 5, 2013 (UTC)
 * This is the most meteorologically and personally upsetting storm I have ever tracked. After all the failures and weaklings we've gotten this season, my mom was supposed to be a 65-knot hurricane at this point. But nooooo, instead it's on the verge of weakening to a depression! To hell with this year, just bring on 2014 already so every basin in the world can start anew. --Dylan (HurricaneMaker99) 15:29, October 5, 2013 (UTC)
 * Karen is now at 35 knots (40 mph) and approaching the U.S. Gulf Coast. Hey Atlantic, when will you ever wake up and produce a hurricane? I also expected a hurricane out of this when it first formed, but the fact that Karen never became a hurricane and weakened a lot before landfall...is...just...stupid. The Atlantic can never get on with it this season. I'm hoping that future Lorenzo or Melissa will become a major, since the Atlantic really needs to produce something strong...for once. The ACE this season is just pathetic, and this inactivity appears to be happening in the entire northern hemisphere. The EPac never produced a major this season, the WPac only has 5 typhoons this season, and the Northern Indian only has 1 tropical storm this season. Reminds me of 1977. This is literally what I'll do if Lorenzo or Melissa don't become hurricanes. Also, this is my reaction to the Atlantic's (and the entire northern hemisphere's) inactivity. Steven09876 T 17:20, October 5, 2013 (UTC)
 * God, this season worldwide is actually looking prime to rival 1977 as the least active year in history. The hell with 2013, nothing is actually worth the time to watch, I thought this could've been a hurricane, but as every other storm this year showed us, it HAD to be an epic fail, It just HAD to...Screw this, I'm out until we get something that's actually attention-grabbing. Ryan1000 17:49, October 5, 2013 (UTC)
 * LOL, Karen is just a pranker. People thought she would be scary.  Not sure if annoyed or impressed. CERTAINLY NOT IMPRESSED BY THIS EMPTY BAG. If Lorenzo is not a MAJOR hurricane, then this will be my reaction. All of 4chan, Reddit and 9gag will be annoyed.Seriously?? PRODUCE A MAJOR CANE NOW, I WILL LITERALLY PLACE A 28938 DEGREE FARENHEIT HEATER UNDER THE ATLANTIC, A "WIND SHEAR KILLER SUCKER" AND A "DRY AIR HAMMER." Lol. It's hammah time. But, hey, anyway, the good thing is that Karen was no Isaac :D!! This will sum up Lorenzo's personality as a storm. Compare that to Karen's personality, sums it all up in this pic. Ya get it? So, anyway, I still am optimistic that this season will catch up in the end. We should get a classic October Caribbean storm, well, according to the models anyway. :o Pinkie pie eg sigpic.png Grape jelly and sour cream on spicy tortillas are the best. 17:59, October 5, 2013 (UTC)
 * (edit conflict) Allow me to follow your lead, Ryan. I'll still be watching the WPAC, since they're making a bit of a comeback over there (Danas was just upgraded to a typhoon by the JTWC), but the EPAC is almost dead and Karen was the final straw as far as the Atlantic is concerned. Inevitably, I'll be tricked back into watching the Atlantic or EPAC by yet another failure sooner or later. This curse just had to affect the list with my mom's name on it. Liz, I like your characterization of Karen: "pranker." Seems to sum up this entire season. --Dylan (HurricaneMaker99) 18:03, October 5, 2013 (UTC)


 * Lol, thanks Dills. I'm sure Lorenzo will make a Pinkie Promise! That Pinkie Promise he made was that he will become a hurricane, and he will try to be a major! "Cross my heart and hope to fly, stick a cupcake in my eye." See? I really want him to be a major! That name is so cool! This is what I'll do if Lorenzo is not a hurricane. Pinkie pie eg sigpic.png Grape jelly and sour cream on spicy tortillas are the best. 18:12, October 5, 2013 (UTC)

Sorry, Karen's pressure has risen to 1009 mbar (hPa; 29.80 inHg). It has stalled, so it could be a slight rainfall problem. I am upset with Karen failing to attain hurricane intensity (the last time a 'K' storm failed to do so was Katrina '99). Hopefully, Lorenzo can do something like ! Liz, Lorenzo will not break your pinkie promise! Andrew Talk To Me  Contribs  Mail Me  18:44, October 5, 2013 (UTC)

We might get 3 more storms in October and 1 in November,but come on 2012 only has 2 majors and 1 advisory each so I will not call that to be remember,people remember 2012 because of Sandy but apart of that it wasn`t that interesting,with 2014 forecast to be an El Niño it will probably be another boring season.We will probably end with Olga or Pablo before all is done and 2013 close for business.Allanjeffs 19:32, October 5, 2013 (UTC) AL, 12, 2013100518,, BEST, 0, 279N, 918W, 30, 1009, TD, 34, NEQ, 0, 0, 0, 0, 1013, 90, 70, 0, 0, L, 0, , 0, 0, KAREN, M Down to td btw.Allanjeffs 19:36, October 5, 2013 (UTC)


 * 2012 had lots of notable facts aside from Sandy, we had 2 storms form pre-season (and in May), one of only 2 or 3 occurences in history, the record-earliest 4th storm, a record 8-storm August, Isaac was a somewhat destructive storm for the southeast US (mainly Louisiana), Nadine lasted for over 20 days, and 2012 had 19 named storms. This year hasn't had a single category 3, let alone category 2, hurricane, not a single landfalling hurricane anywhere in the Atlantic (Ingrid was a 65 mph TS when it hit Mexico), an overall ACE of not even 20 and 70% below the average ACE for this time of year. We still have about 3-4 weeks to go until the season shuts down for good, but unless a miracle happens in that time period, this season might as well go forgotten. Ryan1000 20:10, October 5, 2013 (UTC)
 * Yeah, 2012 was an eventful year, with many records broken such as earliest 4th storm on record, Nadine's longevity, and Sandy's size and destruction. The Atlantic this year has been BORING! The ACE really sucks, due to the huge number of epic fails. This is the last straw. If Lorenzo can't become a hurricane, then I'll ditch the Atlantic for good for this year. Hopefully 2014 will have better storms than this pathetic season, even though it will be an El Nino. Back to Karen, it is stationary right now near Louisiana, and should make landfall by tomorrow. Steven09876 T 00:29, October 6, 2013 (UTC)

Tropical Depression Karen
If Andrea, Chantal, Dorian, Erin, Gabrielle, and Jerry were upsetting you, Karen will not help your feelings. It has collapsed to 25 knots (30 mph, 45 km/h)/1009 mbar (hPa; 29.80 inHg), and might not even make it to the Gulf Coast tropical. Bonnie (2010) 2.0 anyone? Andrew Talk To Me  Contribs  Mail Me  11:14, October 6, 2013 (UTC)


 * Wow, this storm is failing so badly it might not even make landfall as a tropical cyclone. Seriously Karen? Can you really fail   that   much? Andrew, more like Don 2.0.   Ryan1000   12:55, October 6, 2013 (UTC)


 * No, worse than Don. At least Don made landfall as a tropical cyclone, even if it did dissipate almost immediately afterward. --Dylan (HurricaneMaker99) 13:19, October 6, 2013 (UTC)

This storm has now dissipated. Enough of the boring storms. Grape jelly and sour cream on spicy tortillas are the best. 14:33, October 6, 2013 (UTC)

Epic Fail.I am speechless,that what I say in wunderground that there was a possibility that this one would dissipate without making landfall.Allanjeffs 14:36, October 6, 2013 (UTC)

Remnants of Karen
Our cross-breed between Don, Ida, and Bonnie (2010) has died. Andrew Talk To Me  Contribs  Mail Me  14:54, October 6, 2013 (UTC)
 * And I thought Jerry was a fail. That one honestly looks like a pretty sweet deal in comparison to how badly Karen trolled us all. I'm rather unnerved by how accurate my pessimistic side turned out to be with this one. Regarding the now-broken 'K' hurricane curse, I had said earlier on that with the way 2013 was going, Karen would probably be the combo breaker. I then said that it would be in 2013 style for Karen to weaken until landfall... and as it turned out, it didn't even survive to the coast! I wanted my mom's name to go to the biggest and baddest storm of the year, but instead it goes to the biggest failure and disappointment of them all. Go figure!
 * With the failure of Karen, I have completely lost hope in this season. Lorenzo will fail, Melissa will fail, and Nestor - if we even get there - will fail. Humberto will be the strongest storm of the season at 75 kts/980 mbar, making it possibly the weakest storm to be any season's strongest since reconnaissance began in 1944, and 2013 the first season without a major since 1994. --Dylan (HurricaneMaker99) 15:46, October 6, 2013 (UTC)


 * Karen was the biggest troll of the season so far,but I never expect her to reach hurricane status nor to make landfall.She is the biggest dissappointment of all in this season.Epic fail! but we will probably get another 3 to 4 name storms before all is done,and no I believe it was in the 60s were there was a season when the storms strongest storm was a cat 1,unless we get a major at the end of October we will end without a major in an El non Niño year.First time ever since records began keeping.Allanjeffs 17:29, October 6, 2013 (UTC)
 * Lol, AJ, I've got something to sum up Karen. LOL, when you said "Karen was the biggest troll of the season so far." OMG LOL XD Pinkie pie eg sigpic.png Grape jelly and sour cream on spicy tortillas are the best. 17:46, October 6, 2013 (UTC)
 * Allan, Gladys '68 was the strongest storm of that year, and it peaked with the same windspeeds as Humberto did, but it also had a significantly lower pressure of 965 mbar. That's why Humberto is weaker than Gladys. For comparison, the strongest storm of the 1994 AHS, Hurricane Florence, peaked as a high-end C2 with 95 kt winds but a pressure of 972 mbar, 20 kts stronger but also 7 mbar weaker than Gladys. --Dylan (HurricaneMaker99) 17:55, October 6, 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks for that awesome fact! However, I still think some storm will smash dat rekkord set by berto. INNIT MAN! Pinkie pie eg sigpic.png Grape jelly and sour cream on spicy tortillas are the best. 18:00, October 6, 2013 (UTC)
 * I don't. This is 2013, after all. --Dylan (HurricaneMaker99) 18:05, October 6, 2013 (UTC)
 * Yes, but I'm STILL thinking that there will be a shock surprise. The models predict a massive and potentially dangerous Melissa in about 2 weeks from now, and could track towards Florida. Trust me Dylan, but I'm sure conditions will improve. 2014 will be MUCH WORSE than now. 2015 might be the real active one. Or what if Karen suddenly pops up on the US east coast again? A Gabby-style surprise? Who knows? Pinkie pie eg sigpic.png Grape jelly and sour cream on spicy tortillas are the best. 18:08, October 6, 2013 (UTC)
 * Just remember that models have been dropping storms like flies this year. --Dylan (HurricaneMaker99) 18:10, October 6, 2013 (UTC)
 * FWIW, if the models somehow verify, and this hypothetical Melissa is bad enough to get its name retired, then I hope it is replaced with Molly, since it's the name of one of my best friends. It's being used as a nickname for MDMA right now, though, so could that hurt its chances? --Dylan (HurricaneMaker99) 18:13, October 6, 2013 (UTC)

Or MAYBE it might not be hypothetical at all? Grape jelly and sour cream on spicy tortillas are the best. 18:16, October 6, 2013 (UTC)
 * Maybe. Key word: maybe. The way this season has gone, no one should get their hopes up too high about anything. Look no further than Chantal, Dorian, and especially Karen for examples. --Dylan (HurricaneMaker99) 18:40, October 6, 2013 (UTC)
 * Knowing just how terribad this season has been, it wouldn't surprise me if we get no more hurricanes at all. And yes, if we get no majors for the rest of this season, it'll be the first non-El Nino year to do so since reliable data begun around 1950 (although 1907 and 1914 had no hurricanes), and it could also very well be the first year ever to have no majors in both the Atlantic and the East Pacific in the same season (Well, 1968 could've done it too, but I think a storm or two in the EPac that year, like Liza, were major hurricanes). Ryan1000 20:23, October 6, 2013 (UTC)


 * Surprise! Karen is still on the TWO! It has a near 0% chance of developing in both the next two and five days due to unfavorable conditions. Andrew  Talk To Me  Contribs  Mail Me  00:29, October 7, 2013 (UTC)
 * It's not going to re-develop, that's for sure. Karen was such a disappointment, as well as this season! This season really sucks, and so does the ACE. If Humberto ends up being the strongest of the season, then it will be one of the lowest strengths for the strongest storm of the season ever! That shows how pathetic this season has been. But who knows, either Lorenzo or Melissa might become something devastating (or one of them might become the strongest of the season). This season ain't over yet, and a few surprises might be yet to come. <font color="#00A" face="High Tower Text">Steven09876 <font color="#030">T 00:44, October 7, 2013 (UTC)


 * Well, Karen's pretty much lost its chances, but I'm not letting my hopes down just yet until November 30 comes. Anything interesting can form anywhere between here on until then. Simlover123 <font color="White">   23:42, October 7, 2013 (UTC)


 * Karen is gone for good now. Hats off to another failure! Andrew  Talk To Me  Contribs  Mail Me  10:46, October 8, 2013 (UTC)

AOI: Eastern Atlantic
Fresh from the NHC bro. Come at me bro. AN AREA OF LOW PRESSURE COULD FORM OVER THE EASTERN TROPICAL ATLANTIC OCEAN DURING THE NEXT FEW DAYS. SOME DEVELOPMENT OF THIS LOW IS POSSIBLE EARLY NEXT WEEK WHILE IT MOVES WEST-NORTHWESTWARD AT 10 TO 15 MPH. THIS SYSTEM HAS A LOW CHANCE...NEAR 0 PERCENT...OF BECOMING A TROPICAL CYCLONE DURING THE NEXT 48 HOURS...AND A MEDIUM CHANCE...30 PERCENT...OF BECOMING A TROPICAL CYCLONE DURING THE NEXT 5 DAYS. -- Grape jelly and sour cream on spicy tortillas are the best. 18:40, October 5, 2013 (UTC)

And yes, the models predict a hurricane from this. Grape jelly and sour cream on spicy tortillas are the best. 18:40, October 5, 2013 (UTC)

Come on! Hopefully, we can witness another Danielle (2010), Karl (2004), or Gabrielle (1989)! Andrew Talk To Me  Contribs  Mail Me  18:59, October 5, 2013 (UTC)

Not going to happen a mid to strong ts at most.Dry air is not going to let this strength much more than that.The Atlantic is seriously lacking strong storms this season,and October doesn`t usually let storms in the Eatl strength.The models forecasting a hurricane are the ones that were forecasting Karen to become a cat 2 so I would take them as a grain of salt.Allanjeffs 19:28, October 5, 2013 (UTC)


 * Only 8 hurricanes have reached hurricane status in the deep tropical Atlantic during the month of October since 1900, a most recent example being Kate of 2003. This shouldn't be one of those exceptions. I doubt this will become more than a weak or moderate TS at most. Ryan1000 20:10, October 5, 2013 (UTC)

I disagree with you both. This storm WILL pull a Kate. I REALLY disagree. If this storm is not a hurricane, you can imagine me as Medusa. I love the next name on the list. For me, names matter. Grape jelly and sour cream on spicy tortillas are the best. 20:33, October 5, 2013 (UTC)

I think this will become Lorenzo, and I SERIOUSLY want this to become a hurricane! If it doesn't become a hurricane, then I'm done. Lorenzo, you better not be an epic failure, or me, Liz, and many others will go mad. The Atlantic has been too boring with all these failures... <font color="#00A" face="High Tower Text">Steven09876 <font color="#030">T 00:37, October 6, 2013 (UTC)
 * NHC says that conditions are expected to become less conducive by midweek. Just figured I'd try and keep all y'all from getting your hopes up too high like we all did with Karen. --Dylan (HurricaneMaker99) 13:51, October 6, 2013 (UTC)


 * If the dry air and wind shear are really bad, then I do not want this to develop at all. It should either become a hurricane or simply die. I will root for Scenario B. Andrew  Talk To Me  Contribs  Mail Me  14:11, October 6, 2013 (UTC)


 * Tbh I prefer to track fails and epic fails than nothing at all.Just don`t get your hopes when it something form this year.Models and the NHC seems exctiting of this system developing but it will prbably be just a mid grade storm like Jerry.Allanjeffs 14:42, October 6, 2013 (UTC)

Lorenzo is an awesome name. Why should it be wasted on a weak storm? I honestly think, though, that this will be a C2+. Yes seriously. kate in 2003 did it, why can't lorenzo? hurricanes in africa can still become hurricanes in october, innit man? i'm sure this will be better than humberto, agreed? Grape jelly and sour cream on spicy tortillas are the best. 17:52, October 6, 2013 (UTC)
 * Because conditions aren't favorable enough, that's why. Throwing blind faith to a name isn't a very proper way to make predictions. I just learned that the hard way with Karen. --Dylan (HurricaneMaker99) 17:59, October 6, 2013 (UTC)
 * But I'm still optimistic! :D Who knows what will happen next? Melissa or Nestor or Olga or their other mates might become majors, who knows?! Mmm hmm? Pinkie pie eg sigpic.png Grape jelly and sour cream on spicy tortillas are the best. 18:03, October 6, 2013 (UTC)
 * I'd put our chances of getting a major at 15%. The only reason I'm not completely writing off the possibility is because Florence '94 came damn close in November of that year. --Dylan (HurricaneMaker99) 18:07, October 6, 2013 (UTC)
 * I'm guessing 85%. We could still see a major. Remember Sandy last year, that late season shocker? Kenneth? Those lot? Exactly. Pinkie pie eg sigpic.png Grape jelly and sour cream on spicy tortillas are the best. 18:12, October 6, 2013 (UTC)


 * We saw 9 hurricanes before Sandy came along, though, and 4 of them were at least of Category 2 intensity, Michael a marginal major. We've only had 2 so far, and neither of them exceeded Category 1 intensity. The 2011 EPAC season didn't know when to stop. Kenneth was the first EPAC major ever recorded in November, and their strongest storm for that month, beating Sergio '06 by some 30 kts and 25 mbar, an utterly huge margin. Kenneth was the 2011 EPAC season's sixth major and fifth Category 4. Their 2013 season has seen only one Category 2 storm, and no majors. --Dylan (HurricaneMaker99) 18:18, October 6, 2013 (UTC)


 * Up to 10% and in the NHC page probably here comes weak Lorenzo or td 13.Allanjeffs 18:20, October 6, 2013 (UTC)
 * or maybe the clone of the Michael Jackson storm last year!! lorenzo jackson!! wooo!! this will be a major! Pinkie pie eg sigpic.png Grape jelly and sour cream on spicy tortillas are the best. 18:22, October 6, 2013 (UTC)Lorenzo_wooo.png
 * How do you know Lorenzo will be a major? --Dylan (HurricaneMaker99) 19:29, October 6, 2013 (UTC)


 * Conditions are no longer favorable for a major in the Eatl maybe a cat 1 hurricane but not much more.Sorry Liz.Allanjeffs 19:37, October 6, 2013 (UTC)
 * Lorenzo's coming.


 * Yay??
 * WHY IS THIS SEASON SO BORING!?!? (talk) 20:10, October 6, 2013 (UTC)

Liz, Sandy and Kenneth had ideal conditions to explode quickly, which was (admittedly) rare for the time of year they did so, but this wave isn't in the same environment as storms like that. NHC says it only has a small window of opportunity to intensify, maybe only 2 or 3 days to become Lorenzo, until shear picks up and kills it late-week. Ryan1000 20:23, October 6, 2013 (UTC)

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I HATE THIS SEASON WITH ALL MY HEART. Why all the stupid wind shear? GOD -_- Grape jelly and sour cream on spicy tortillas are the best. 20:31, October 6, 2013 (UTC)

Um, anyways. I think that this storm STILL has potential to become a c2+, <span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:arial,sans-serif;line-height:17px;">O̲̅ɴ̲̅ᴇ̲̅ ̲̅ᴄ̲̅ᴀ̲̅ɴ̲̅ɴ̲̅ᴏ̲̅ᴛ̲̅ ̲̅ᴊ̲̅ᴜ̲̅s̲̅ᴛ̲̅ ̲̅s̲̅ɪ̲̅ᴍ̲̅ᴘ̲̅ʟ̲̅ʏ̲̅ ̲̅ʙ̲̅ʀ̲̅ᴇ̲̅ᴀ̲̅ᴋ̲̅ ̲̅ᴀ̲̅﻿ ̲̅ᴘ̲̅ɪ̲̅ɴ̲̅ᴋ̲̅ʏ̲̅ ̲̅ᴘ̲̅ʀ̲̅ᴏ̲̅ᴍ̲̅ɪ̲̅s̲̅ᴇ̲̅ innit man? The nhc might be proved wrong. See? Just wait and see. NOSTORM BREAKS A PINKIE PROMISE!!!! If Lorenzo breaks his Pinkie Promise he told me, I will literally batter him. Grape jelly and sour cream on spicy tortillas are the best. 20:36, October 6, 2013 (UTC) A TROPICAL WAVE LOCATED ABOUT 500 MILES SOUTH-SOUTHWEST OF THE CAPE VERDE ISLANDS IS PRODUCING AN AREA OF DISORGANIZED SHOWERS AND THUNDERSTORMS. SOME GRADUAL DEVELOPMENT OF THIS SYSTEM IS POSSIBLE BEFORE ENVIRONMENTAL CONDITIONS BECOME LESS CONDUCIVE LATER THIS WEEK. BOO HOO. THIS SYSTEM HAS A LOW CHANCE...10 PERCENT...OF BECOMING A TROPICAL CYCLONE DURING THE NEXT 48 HOURS...AND A MEDIUM CHANCE... 30 PERCENT...OF BECOMING A TROPICAL CYCLONE DURING THE NEXT 5 DAYS AS IT MOVES GENERALLY WEST-NORTHWESTWARD AT 10 TO 15 MPH. Potatoes have skin. I have skin. Therefore I am a potato. Anyway, this is fresh from the national hurr center. I won't be surprised if this is a hurricane. Isn't it weird that pinapples never wear bikinis? NOT REALLY! 21:00, October 6, 2013 (UTC)


 * Liz, I do not want to say this, but Lorenzo is actually a somewhat unlucky name for Atlantic tropical cyclones. It failed miserably in 2001 and did not have much time for a show in 2007. Still, I will wish for the best for its 2013 incarnation. And yes, the tropics is where the unexpected occurs. Anything can happen... Andrew  Talk To Me  Contribs  Mail Me  22:20, October 6, 2013 (UTC)



98L.INVEST
Like I say here comes td 13 and probably Lorenzo,A moderate to strong ts,before wind shear and dry air kill him.Allanjeffs 00:07, October 7, 2013 (UTC)


 * I have to say, this invest is starting to get its act together. It is at a 20% chance of formation for the next two days and a 40% chance for the next five days. Hopefully, we can see at least a strong tropical storm from this system! Regarding the computer models, BAMD recurves it back northeast, CLIP takes it due westward, LBAR predicts a northward jog, and BAMM/BAMS bring it near the Lesser Antilles. Andrew  Talk To Me  Contribs  Mail Me  00:27, October 7, 2013 (UTC)
 * I hope this doesn't become Lorenzo, or it will be yet ANOTHER fail, because environmental conditions will become less favorable for it later this week. Ugh, c'mon Atlantic. -_- <font color="#00A" face="High Tower Text">Steven09876 <font color="#030">T 00:48, October 7, 2013 (UTC)
 * IMMA PARTY, IMMA PARTY, IMMA PARTY! 30/40% WOOOOO!!!! According to models, this should become a hurricane, tracking in the open atlantic, stronger than humberto wooooooo Pinkie pie eg sigpic.png Isn't it weird that pinapples never wear bikinis? NOT REALLY! 19:57, October 7, 2013 (UTC)
 * Take THAT, Humberto! You are so last month! Lorenzo is the new humberto lol. Pinkie pie eg sigpic.png Isn't it weird that pinapples never wear bikinis? NOT REALLY! 20:06, October 7, 2013 (UTC)


 * Now up to 30% and models are developing some in a ts and some in a weak hurricane.Allanjeffs 20:31, October 7, 2013 (UTC)


 * This season has been interesting meteorologically speaking, but other than that, some people (like the hurricane trackers) are kind of upset with the season's lack of strong storms, and all of them just going into Mexico. Mexico needs a break, we need to see something quality we can watch that isn't a problem to anyone, so maybe this could become Lorenzo, and maybe it can become the third hurricane of the season, and won't be a problem to land masses. Hopefully. Simlover123 <font color="White">   23:38, October 7, 2013 (UTC)


 * 40% now~5 day is 50%! Looks like Lorenzo's comin'! Fred22 (talk) 00:19, October 8, 2013 (UTC)


 * Winds up to 25 knots.Looks like this is poise to at least become td 13.Allanjeffs 01:06, October 8, 2013 (UTC)


 * A tropical depression is good enough from this system. I hate the fail tropical storms this season. Andrew  Talk To Me  Contribs  Mail Me  10:52, October 8, 2013 (UTC)
 * Meteorologically speaking, it's interesting to see the lack of intese storms, but it's also boring, there weren't even any fishspinner Cape Verdes majors this year, and there won't be anything big coming from this thing. There's still 3 weeks of October left...fingers crossed nothing bad happens, but once October's over with, I think it'll be safe to say the season has shut down, assuming we don't pull a 1999 or 2008 November. Ryan1000 12:27, October 8, 2013 (UTC)
 * We should hope nothing bad happens, New Jersey where I live do not need another Sandy. We all just want something that is decent to track this year. Simlover123 <font color="White">   18:59, October 8, 2013 (UTC)
 * It's down to 30% in the next 48 hours (40% in the next five days). Hopefully this doesn't become Lorenzo, or it will be yet another epic failure piece of sh!t storm. I hope the name "Lorenzo" will be used for a hurricane, but since this is 2013 that will probably not happen. <font color="#00A" face="High Tower Text">Steven09876 <font color="#030">T 23:17, October 8, 2013 (UTC)
 * I hope Lorenzo will be a decent storm, and not be like the piece of garbage storms we've had already. What a waste of a naming list. Simlover123 <font color="White">   03:20, October 9, 2013 (UTC)
 * This might be Mel instead. L might be a storm in the Western Caribbean lol. Pinkie pie eg sigpic.png Rubber bands last longer when they are refrigerated. 23:30, October 9, 2013 (UTC)


 * Up to 50%Allanjeffs 12:13, October 10, 2013 (UTC)
 * It's still at 50%, and I'm starting to doubt this will become Lorenzo. If it does develop, let it only peak as a depression, or the name Lorenzo will have to be used for an extreme epic failure this year. It is about to be torn apart by strong upper-level winds in a couple days. <font color="#00A" face="High Tower Text">Steven09876 <font color="#030">T 22:16, October 10, 2013 (UTC)
 * LOL, this might happen if he doesn't develop. LOL. It should get better though, just my opinion. Pinkie pie eg sigpic.png Rubber bands last longer when they are refrigerated. 22:46, October 10, 2013 (UTC)

Maybe this AOI will remain weak while crossing the Atlantic but might become something big in the Caribbean (assuming it stays weak and heads due west). This one might be worth watching in the long run. Ryan1000 22:03, October 11, 2013 (UTC)

Up to 60% if upgrade it will be Lorenzo as Ascat have found winds of 45mph.Allanjeffs 01:34, October 12, 2013 (UTC)

I still hope this invest collapses. We have seen enough fail storms, and Lorenzo is "pinkie promising" to pull a Kate (2003) or Ophelia (2011). Given this is 2013, we might just see Ingrid/Melissa (2007) all over. Andrew Talk To Me  Contribs  Mail Me  02:04, October 12, 2013 (UTC)


 * Yeah, I really hope this invest collapses. If this becomes Lorenzo, then here comes yet another  EPIC FAIL!!! Ugh, c'mon Atlantic, stop producing all these weaklings. I want the name Lorenzo to be saved for a hurricane. If the Atlantic continues producing failings, then I'll literally place a 500 degrees Fahrenheit heater under the Atlantic, a wind shear sucker, and a dry air killer. <font color="#00A" face="High Tower Text">Steven09876 <font color="#030">T 03:03, October 12, 2013 (UTC)


 * The problem is not the temperatures they are even warmer than normal for this time of the year,and wind shear is normal in the EATL for this part of the year.What is has been uncommon is the amaunt of Stable air it has been and also dry air even though in less scale.Allanjeffs 07:07, October 12, 2013 (UTC)


 * No closed circulation is present in this invest, and thunderstorm activity has significantly fallen. It has fallen to a 50% chance of developing in the next two and five days. Hey, now we might get Lorenzo to a truly respectful hurricane-strength storm. Andrew  Talk To Me  Contribs  Mail Me  11:49, October 12, 2013 (UTC)
 * 30% NOW. I HATE YOU!!! YOU'RE GOING TO LOVE ME!!!!111 I HATE THIS STUPID PUNY IDIOTIC INVEST!!!!!!! I WIILL SUCK WIND SHEAR!!!! DEVELOP AND FORM OR I WILL GET A 3828 DEGREE HEATER AND LITERALLY PLACE IT OVER THAT STUPID OCEAN!! DIE INVEST, DIE!!!!! God, when will you EVER develop?!?! -_- Pinkie pie eg sigpic.png Rubber bands last longer when they are refrigerated. 18:59, October 12, 2013 (UTC)
 * I am just so frustrated I can scream. Pinkie pie eg sigpic.png Rubber bands last longer when they are refrigerated. 19:02, October 12, 2013 (UTC)
 * Like Liz, I have about had it this year. 11 named storms, 2 hurricanes, and 0 major hurricanes, in addition, puny little invests that dissipate to the quickest of their ability. Compare that to the 18, 8, and 3 that the Colorado State University was predicting. This season is a failure, and my hopes are just about up. There would have been a difference if the CSU predicted a lower amount like we have had, and nobody would be not satisfied. Anyway, I doubt we'll get passed Lorenzo or Melissa, if we have any other storms, if any. I honestly would say we are almost done. While we scream at this season and throw fits, let's all get excited for 2014, that year may be exciting. Simlover123 <font color="White">   19:17, October 12, 2013 (UTC)


 * The reason why it was downgraded: those folks over at the Hurricane HQ are too busy checking "funny" pictures on Instagram, Facebook and Twitter. Some are even on their phones Snapchatting, checking their hair in the mirror to make sure every curl is in place or every frizz is straightened out, or even watching The X Factor, eyeing Gary Barlow, Nicole Scherzinger and the judges whilst pigging out on curry! They think it is just so boring tracking this invest they just decided to kill some time. Maybe Lorenzo may not spread his wings until he reaches the Caribbean. Probably he's just too shy, the delicate thing. Pinkie pie eg sigpic.png Rubber bands last longer when they are refrigerated. 19:15, October 12, 2013 (UTC)
 * Yea but 2014 has some really awful names compared to the awesome names on this year's list, innit? Nana? Gonzalo?!?! Seriously o_o. Compared with the likes of lorenzo. super cool. Pinkie pie eg sigpic.png Rubber bands last longer when they are refrigerated. 19:20, October 12, 2013 (UTC)


 * Lorenzo might come later. I agree Nana is rather plain, but Gonzalo sounds decent. Andrew  Talk To Me  Contribs  Mail Me  19:53, October 12, 2013 (UTC)
 * YUP, AGREED. Imma stick my tongue out like Miley at this invest, Andy. BLEH. Miley sigpic.jpg TWERK TEAM! 20:14, October 12, 2013 (UTC)
 * I think Nana is a god awful (although kinda funny) name, and Gonzalo is a good name. Anyway, this invest is really starting to be ripped apart by very strong upper-level winds. Lorenzo shall come later, and I'm hoping that the name will be used for a hurricane, especially since it's one of the best names on the list IMO. Enough of the epic failure TS storms. <font color="#00A" face="High Tower Text">Steven09876 <font color="#030">T 20:28, October 12, 2013 (UTC)

This invest is encountering a lot of shear atm. Make that 20% now. If any remains of this can eventually get into the Western Caribbean, this might just have a chance of developing by then in a week's time. But now, I wouldn't be surprised if it dies later today or tomorrow. Allan, one reason why the dry air that was affecting the Atlantic so much was mentioned in one of Dr. Masters blogs in September, there was a drought in Brazil this year which became Brazil's costliest natural disaster with 8.3 billion in damage. Some dry air from that drought may have moved northward into the main development region of the Atlantic, shutting down the majority of the Cape Verde season and leading to a slow heart of the season, and probably slow season overall. Ryan1000 00:54, October 13, 2013 (UTC)


 * Well, this invest has really lost it. That dry air is crushing up the system. It now only has a 10% chance of becoming tropical in the next two and five days. Andrew  Talk To Me  Contribs  Mail Me  13:31, October 13, 2013 (UTC)
 * The upper-level winds and dry air are starting to really tear this system apart. Luckily this didn't become Lorenzo, or we would have had yet another epic fail, and I'm sick of those. The Atlantic should start quieting down from here on out, but it's not out of the question that we could still get a major in the western Caribbean later this month. The season ain't over yet, and a surprise might still be yet to come. <font color="#00A" face="High Tower Text">Steven09876 <font color="#030">T 21:49, October 13, 2013 (UTC)


 * AGHH! I HATE THIS SEASON!!!!! hoping India is taking the cyclone seriously (talk) 23:15, October 13, 2013 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I hate the inactivity as well, but like Steven said, we could still get a surprise. Remember Sandy? Simlover123 <font color="White">   00:36, October 14, 2013 (UTC)
 * This thing is actually expected to pass north of or near the upper lesser antillies now as a wave, but given that it's now near 0%, it probably won't develop anyways. Ryan1000 17:44, October 14, 2013 (UTC)
 * As is tradition...both this and the Bahamas AOI are gone from NHC. We have two more weeks to get something in the Caribbean. If we don't, the season's over with for good. Ryan1000 11:01, October 15, 2013 (UTC)


 * THAT'S IT!!!!!!!!!!!! I'M DONE WITH THIS CRAPPY SEASON I HATE 2013 WITH ALL MY HEART, I'M OUT OF HERE UNTIL (if) WE GET ANOTHER SANDY

AOI: Near Bermuda
Well, we got a new AOI near Bermuda. Conditions should be marginally favorable for development as it moves northward at 10 to 20 mph. Its chances for development are at 20% for the next two and five days. Similar to what Otto said in Dorian's section, Melissa does not deserve to be Michelle or Marilyn's replacement, especially when the 'M' name on this list is cursed (remember 1995 or 2001's "M"s?) If our 'M' has to come, expect. Andrew Talk To Me  Contribs  Mail Me  10:52, October 8, 2013 (UTC)


 * More like a re-Sean or Tony, but nothing impact-wise should come from this, aside from (maybe) a gust or two in Bermuda. Ryan1000 12:28, October 8, 2013 (UTC)


 * Yeah, I agree with Ryan. Hopefully if this does in fact become Melissa, I hope it's something worth while to track, and not a Jerry 2007 2.0, like Andrew said above. Simlover123 <font color="White">   18:57, October 8, 2013 (UTC)
 * And...gone from NHC. How interesting...Ryan1000 20:12, October 8, 2013 (UTC)


 * That's 2013 for ya. Simlover123 <font color="White">   03:19, October 9, 2013 (UTC)
 * Lol. Exactly. Just you wait and see for the next few, you don't know what life throwz at ya :o Miley sigpic.jpg TWERK TEAM! 19:47, October 12, 2013 (UTC)

AOI.East of Bahamas
And a new one pops up on the TWO, further south than the last AOI. 10% for two days and 20% for the next 5. Ryan1000 17:44, October 14, 2013 (UTC)


 * Wow. It is off the TWO. Our October is going to be a re-2006 or 2004 at the rate we are going. Andrew  Talk To Me  Contribs  Mail Me  11:14, October 15, 2013 (UTC)
 * And back on at 10%. Ryan1000 19:46, October 15, 2013 (UTC)


 * Meh. I don't think this will become Lorenzo. I think this is just another random AOI that shouldn't develop, but if it does develop, it'll just be yet another weak epic failure. I still hope that the name Lorenzo will be used for a hurricane! But if Lorenzo wants to be a hurricane, then it'll have to form in the Caribbean or something. I've had enough of the epic failures, and wish we could get another hurricane before the season is over. I'm hoping that we will get a C2+ hurricane sometime during the rest of the season so it can increase the very terrible ACE. The activity of this season, and especially the ACE, is just PATHETIC. The ACE of this season so far is only 28. 28! Now that is just pathetic. If this season ended now, then it will be the lowest overall ACE since 1983! This has got to be, the most pathetic season in the 21st century so far! <font color="#00A" face="High Tower Text">Steven09876 <font color="#030">T 23:58, October 15, 2013 (UTC)


 * This AOI is going to have a tough time developing. Conditions are real hostile right now. For the record, we are tied with 1972 for having the third most pathetic ACE for an Atlantic season since 1950, after 1983 and 1977. And in reply to Steven's post, 2007 was, in a way, more pathetic than 2013. Sure, its ACE was 71.695 (The ACE/storm that year was 4.78, which is pretty sweet compared to 2013's) out of 15 total storms (14 if Andrea is excluded), six hurricanes, and two major hurricanes. Well, the only reason it got that high was the monster called "Dean". Take his ACE of 35.2325 out of the picture, and you're left with an ugly ACE of 36.4625 out of 14 total storms (with an ACE/storm of 2.60, just above 2013's 2.58), five hurricanes, and one lone major. And that still does not illustrate 2007's ACE failure. Remove the other major, Felix, along with his ACE of 18.03, and all that is left is the saddest ACE I have ever seen - a total of 18.4325 out of 13 total storms (and an ACE/storm of 1.41!) and four hurricanes, none past Category 1 intensity. It's amazing how what seem to be great seasons ACEwise can turn real ugly if just a few storms are omitted. 2003 is another example of this. It's wonderful ACE of 174.78 falls to 111.5 if Isabel gets removed, 68.34 if Fabian is taken away, and 46.45 if Kate disappears. It may be true 2013 is the most pathetic 21st century Atlantic hurricane season, but my point is 2007 and 2003 also are in a way if the big monsters (e.g. Dean, Felix, Isabel, Fabian, Juan, and Noel) get removed. Andrew  Talk To Me  Contribs  Mail Me  01:44, October 17, 2013 (UTC)
 * It's by far the 2nd least active only to 1977 for a non-El Nino year, and while a few seasons could've been as bad if they lacked anything significant, the fact the EPac has done that in the same season as the Atlantic makes this even more unbelievable. Only the WPac seems to be going on a hot streak from their slumber earlier this year, they're up to 27 named storms now (could be 30 when the season is over), and 9 typhoons (could end at 11 or 12). If the Atlantic and EPac both lack any major hurricanes this year, it'll be the 2nd lowest combined ACE from both basins, only to 1977. Ryan1000 02:24, October 17, 2013 (UTC)
 * You guys had great points there. People, just accept it, 2013 is one of those year's that we have every once in a while that's a dud, although 2013 is even more of a dud than 2009. If I had to choose, I would have chose a 2009-like season this year, because at least that season had two major hurricanes, wile 2013 has had ZERO! Simlover123 <font color="White">   02:30, October 17, 2013 (UTC)

99L.INVEST
This is now 99L, but still 0%. Ryan1000 18:54, October 17, 2013 (UTC)

Whoop dee doo another invest, and this one in particular does NOT impress me it just looks like a big mess. This isn't worth watching. leeboy100 (talk) 21:17, October 17, 2013 (UTC) 21:15, October 17, 2013 (UTC)   forgot to log in :P


 * Well, this pathetic invest is currently dying, and should be off the TWO soon. I'm glad that this never became Lorenzo, or it would have been yet another epic fail! The wind shear and unfavorable conditions are ripping apart this invest. Lorenzo will have to wait, and I now think that this season will end at that name. *evil grin* <font color="#00A" face="High Tower Text">Steven09876 <font color="#030">T 23:21, October 17, 2013 (UTC)


 * And, off the TWO it goes. <font color="#00A" face="High Tower Text">Steven09876 <font color="#030">T 00:17, October 18, 2013 (UTC)


 * GUESS WUT, PEEPZ? 992ISH MB LORENZO COMING SOON. WOO HOO?  It's not about forcing happiness. It's about not letting the sadness win. 23:33, October 20, 2013 (UTC)
 * We'll see I guess. I personally think this season could be done. Simlover123 <font color="White">   23:46, October 20, 2013 (UTC)

13L.LORENZO
AOI: East of Bermuda

Currently at a 10% chance of developing for both the next two and five days, this AOI is in a region of unfavorable conditions. anyone? Andrew Talk To Me  Contribs  Mail Me  00:12, October 21, 2013 (UTC)


 * YOU PINKIE PROMISED! LOL, anyway, a 980-summat hurricane is gonna be lorenzo. caribbean. model.  It's not about forcing happiness. It's about not letting the sadness win. 00:15, October 21, 2013 (UTC)


 * If we are even going to have a strong tropical storm from here on out, it has to be in the Caribbean. The open Atlantic is acting like its 1983 or 1992 all over again! Honestly, I would have preferred 1992 over this season! At least it had some unusual storms like Andrew and Bonnie! Oh, and to the ones giving up on 2013, Florence and Gordon in 1994 showed us the strongest or most memorable storm of the year might not come until November. If Gordon can kill hundreds in November during an El Nino, 2013 could easily do the same. Andrew  Talk To Me  Contribs  Mail Me  00:38, October 21, 2013 (UTC)

Well, while it's not impossible that we could get a notable storm from here on out, roughly 4 out of every 5 Atlantic tropical cyclones in history formed before this date. If the Atlantic wants to get something, it's pretty much now or never. Ryan1000 02:04, October 21, 2013 (UTC)

90L.INVEST
Up to 40% might become a ts before dying tuesday night.Allanjeffs 06:28, October 21, 2013 (UTC)

Up to 60% Lorenzo might be coming from this after all.Allanjeffs 11:44, October 21, 2013 (UTC)

Lorenzo, go away and spoil yourself with another storm! However, I see an eye feature on satellite imagery! Maybe, if we see an October version of Blanche (1969), we could see a weak hurricane from this. Andrew Talk To Me  Contribs  Mail Me  11:50, October 21, 2013 (UTC)


 * Or Shary 2010 lol. Well, per NHC:

SATELLITE IMAGES INDICATE THAT THE SHOWER AND THUNDERSTORM ACTIVITY ASSOCIATED WITH THE AREA OF LOW PRESSURE LOCATED ABOUT 650 MILES EAST-SOUTHEAST OF BERMUDA CONTINUES TO SHOW SIGNS OF ORGANIZATION. THIS LOW HAS THE POTENTIAL TO BECOME A SHORT-LIVED TROPICAL CYCLONE LATER TODAY OR TUESDAY BEFORE UPPER-LEVEL WINDS BECOME UNFAVORABLE FOR DEVELOPMENT. THIS SYSTEM HAS A HIGH CHANCE...60 PERCENT...OF <span style="background-color:white;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;line-height:14px;font-size:12px;">BECOMING A TROPICAL CYCLONE DURING THE NEXT 48 HOURS. <span style="background-color:white;color:rgb(58,58,58);font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;line-height:21px;"> <span style="background-color:white;color:rgb(58,58,58);font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;line-height:21px;">Please...don't...epically fail...Ryan1000 12:22, October 21, 2013 (UTC)

<span style="background-color:white;color:rgb(58,58,58);font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;line-height:21px;">Doubt it becomes a hurricane.Allanjeffs 12:43, October 21, 2013 (UTC)

Seriously Atlantic, another epic fail?! The Atlantic has produced too much failings in this season, and this looks to be yet another epic fail. Sigh...I wanted the name "Lorenzo" to go to a decent hurricane. God, enough of the failures, because I'm tired of these. <font color="#00A" face="High Tower Text">Steven09876 <font color="#030">T 14:27, October 21, 2013 (UTC)

Tropical Depression Thirteen
Sorry Steven, but Mother Nature does what she wants...forecast to be a fail. Ryan1000 14:39, October 21, 2013 (UTC)


 * AAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!1111 WHY DO YOU DO THIS, MAMA NATURE?!?! AAAAAAHHHHHHH!!!!! JUST WHY?!?! O_O!!!!! The next name is sooooo cool. Why does it HAVE to be used for SUCH an UNCOOL storm?!?! O_o!!!!!  It's not about forcing happiness. It's about not letting the sadness win. 15:25, October 21, 2013 (UTC)
 * Is it just me, or does it look as though TD13 is partially related to the remnants of 98L from more than a week ago? Not saying it's the same system, but it does look almost like that wave is at least a contributing factor in the new storm. Can be sort of seen here. http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/tafb_latest/gehov2latest.gif TheMagnificentEquusStorm (talk) 16:33, October 21, 2013 (UTC)

Tropical Storm Lorenzo

 * Stupid mother nature leeboy100 (talk) 18:38, October 21, 2013 (UTC)
 * AL, 13, 2013102118,, BEST, 0, 287N, 552W, 35, 1008, TS Lorenzo by ATCF the 12 of the season and the epic fails continue.Allanjeffs 20:24, October 21, 2013 (UTC)
 * AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!! FOR GODS SAKE -_- GOD GOD GOD!!!! I HAVE THE WORST HEADACHE IN THE WORLD, I WANNA SCREAM AND SHOUT AND LET IT ALL OUT! CHRIST! NOW THE WORLD'S MOST STUPID TROPICAL STORM AND WILL STAY LIKE THAT! Ugh. I hate this place. GOD, just PRODUCE a hurricane! Such a beautiful name on an ugly storm. Jeez.  It's not about forcing happiness. It's about not letting the sadness win. 20:45, October 21, 2013 (UTC)
 * Another weak storm.Allanjeffs 20:45, October 21, 2013 (UTC)
 * I guess that with Raymond's success in the EPAC, we needed a reminder that it's 2013. Sigh... --Dylan (HurricaneMaker99) 20:46, October 21, 2013 (UTC)


 * I know, right? Unless if I place a heater under the storm lol...  It's not about forcing happiness. It's about not letting the sadness win. 20:46, October 21, 2013 (UTC)
 * LORENZO YOU PINKIE PROMISED! GET IN THE GARBAGE CAN NOW!!!! Lorenzo, see what you did? You made poor Rarity cry. -hugs Rarity- It's not about forcing happiness. It's about not letting the sadness win. 20:48, October 21, 2013 (UTC)
 * Poor Pinkie Pie. You may have Pinkie Promised but I WILL GET YOU EVIL LORENZO!!!   It's not about forcing happiness. It's about not letting the sadness win. 20:51, October 21, 2013 (UTC)
 * Forecast to be 50mph.  It's not about forcing happiness. It's about not letting the sadness win. 20:54, October 21, 2013 (UTC)

'Nuff said. Ryan1000 21:17, October 21, 2013 (UTC)
 * The fail train moves on, and on, and on...-- Isaac829 E-Mail  21:31, October 21, 2013 (UTC)
 * Yep, the fail train will never end. I hope Lorenzo pulls a Shary (2010) and becomes the 3rd hurricane of the season, but I doubt that will happen. <font color="#00A" face="High Tower Text">Steven09876 <font color="#030">T 21:44, October 21, 2013 (UTC)


 * UGGGGGH. Kill me now. leeboy100 (talk) 21:53, October 21, 2013 (UTC)
 * I hate this as well. Reverse psychology seems to have been working real well in the Atlantic recently. Last year, I never thought Chris, Gordon, Kirk, or Michael would get as strong as they did, but they did their tricks. This year, I rooted for Humberto and Lorenzo both becoming major hurricanes. And guess what? Fail, fail, fail! The Atlantic has let such awesome names throughout this year and 2011 go down the dumps. It has been miserable tracking what I thought would be a grand year. The EPAC, WPAC, and NIO have all collected themselves together. Only the Atlantic is still determined to force feed its epic failures. I thought Jerry and Karen were bad enough. Lorenzo is worse than even Jerry '07 and Jose '11! I will conclude my statement by repeating one of Liz's statements - Why do all the grand Atlantic storms come during the years of "boring" naming lists (Allen, Frances '80, Andrew, Bonnie '98, Georges, Mitch, Charley, Frances, Gaston '04, Ivan, Jeanne, Karl '04, Alex '10, Danielle '10, Earl '10, Igor, Julia '10, Karl '10, and Tomas) and the fails come during the years of "cool" naming lists (Chantal/Dorian/Erin/Gabrielle/Jerry/Karen/Lorenzo '13, Ingrid/Jerry/Melissa '07, Jerry/Lorenzo '01, Barry/Chantal/Dean/Pablo/Sebastien '95, and Iris '89)? Maybe reverse psychology has been why. Now just wait until next year. We've all said that year would be dead, but it could get real active... Andrew  Talk To Me  Contribs  Mail Me  02:12, October 22, 2013 (UTC)

Retirements at a glance
We have enough storms in this season to start this section (four), but nothing is worth retiring so far.

My predictions:

Andrea - 1% - It affected a variety of regions, but it is not going.

Barry - 0.5% - If Arlene (2011) was not retired for affecting the same regions as Barry did, it is not going as well.

Chantal - 0.1% - One death does not cut it in this case.

Dorian - 0% - It regenerated after everyone said it was done, but I doubt it will go.

Erin - 0.05% - There was some rain in the Cape Verdes, but if Fran (1984) was not retired for affecting Cape Verde, neither will Erin.

Fernand - 0.8% -The flood threats from Fernand, along with eighteen fatalities, make Fernand the season's deadliest storm, but it is extremely doubtful it will go.

Gabrielle - 0.1% - Some slight effects occured in Hispaniola, but it otherwise fell flat on its face. However, it did redeem itself.

Humberto - 0.01% - Humberto did break our TS streak. However, it is staying, despite minor effects on Cape Verde.

Ingrid - 10% - Ingrid does have a better chance than some of you think. It flooded up northeastern Mexico, and it is deadlier than Kenna and Anita, both of which got retired for primarily affecting Mexico. Depending on damage totals, my percentage should go up or down.

Jerry - 0% - Was nothing more than an epic fail.

Karen - 0.01% - Karen was slightly better than Jerry, but still, no way.

Andrew Talk To Me  Contribs  Mail Me  00:06, July 28, 2013 (UTC)

STO12's Predictions


 * ANDREA: 20% Caused some impact to Florida and the southeast, but not significant enough for a retirement.
 * BARRY: 15% Torrential rains in Central America, but not enough impact to sustain a retirement.
 * CHANTAL: 5% Caused very little impact to the windward islands, no retirement for Chantal.
 * DORIAN: 5% No impact to land as a tropical storm. It's remnants and regenerated tropical depression status did more.
 * ERIN: 0% No impact to land.
 * FERNAND ? Predictions for Fernand will be released once the storm has dissipated.

<font color="#4169E1">ST✪12 02:02, August 26, 2013 (UTC)


 * But what about its remnants? Wouldn't the remains of Dorian have a possibility to cause at least some impact/damage? Jeffrey1998 (talk) 04:16, July 28, 2013 (UTC)
 * I agree, Dorian's remnants have a 10% chance of coming back. He still has a chance to do something. Ryan1000 10:43, July 28, 2013 (UTC)
 * You honestly think Dorian is going to regenerate? I don't and it's at 0% right now, so I was correct. Dorian was a fail to me, its remnants didn't do anything big. -.- <font color="#4169E1">ST✪12 23:11, July 30, 2013 (UTC)
 * I said that two days ago, when it had a chance of regenerating. But now, he's dead. Dorian never did jack sh!t. Ryan1000 03:23, July 31, 2013 (UTC)

Here's my predictions:

<font color="#00A" face="High Tower Text">Steven09876 <font color="#030">T 16:00, July 28, 2013 (UTC)
 * Andrea - 5% - Caused some impact to the southeast, but too little impact for retirement.
 * Barry - 1% - Affected Mexico, but it will not be retired.
 * Chantal - 0.1% - Caused very little impact.
 * Dorian - 0% - Fail, but surprised us by regenerating after everyone thought it was done.
 * Erin - 0% - See Jerry.
 * Fernand - 10% - I never expected it to be as bad as this. It killed 18 people. But still, since Mexico rarely retires names, I don't think it is going.
 * Gabrielle - 1% - Not much impact.
 * Humberto - 0% - It became the season's first hurricane, but no land impacts, so no retirement here.
 * Ingrid - 15% - Lots of flooding in Mexico and 19 deaths, but considering Mexico's track record...
 * Jerry - 0% - EPIC FAIL!!!
 * Karen - 0% - Kinda better than Jerry, but still, it EPICLY failed. It just fell flat on its face in the Gulf of Mexico! Along with Jerry and Erin, it gets the biggest fail of the year award. This shall explain how much Karen, Jerry, and Erin EPICLY FAILED!
 * Lorenzo - ? - Still active

RyanK is here: That's all for now. Ryan1000 16:19, July 28, 2013 (UTC)
 * Andrea - 2% - Not much different from Alberto '06. Caused some flooding, but nothing severe.
 * Barry - 2% - Just like Bret '05. Some damage, some deaths, but for Mexico, it's not enough.
 * Chantal - 1% - I was really hoping to see more from Chantal, but it fell flat on it's face in the open Caribbean...Still, tack a 1% on it for the death in the Dominican Republic.
 * Dorian - 0% - It tried, but failed.
 * Erin - 0% - What a disgrace.
 * Fernand - 8% - Worse than Barry, but still not retirement-worthy.
 * Gabrielle - 0% - What a dissapointing storm...yeah it came back but still, it was weak and caused no damage or deaths.
 * Humberto - <5% - Still active, but probably won't affect land.
 * Ingrid - 10% - 19 deaths is a reasonable retirement number, but considering Mexico's track record...
 * Jerry - 0% - Another fish, another failure...
 * Karen - -1% - I've seen storms fail before, but can they really fail this badly? Dafaq...

'''THIS... IS... SPARTA!!!!''' I LIKE TRAINS 23:32, September 26, 2013 (UTC)
 * Andrea = 5%. She did cause a bit of hype along the northeast but her impacts were not life-threatening, just too petty.
 * Barry "INNIT MAN" = 1%. That name did give me the creeps when I first saw it on the list but he is nothing more than a candidate for 2019's hurricane list.
 * Chantal >:) = 0%. That was absolutely dreadful.
 * Dorian Gray = -∞%. What the bloody hell was that? 
 * Erin = -∞%. FACEHOOF. EPIC FAIL. BOOOOOOOOO!!!!! Cape Verde will not do this, they didn't feel a THING from this shy kid!
 * Fernand= 5%. I just ate my free Nando's. Mexico, no way. This ain't going ANYWHERE.
 * Gabby = 2% OMG the second life, shadow of the dead! Canada didn't feel a thing.
 * Humberto the boss :) = 3% I LIKE TRAINS AND MINE TURTLES, THIS ONE PRODUCED A MASSIVE SHINY DOUGHNUT :O D'OH! (Iceland won't do it. Neither will Africa. I got the remnants from Humberto but he provided me with warm late summer weather earler this week. It was true, look up on ITV Weather.)
 * Ingrid = 38% Outshined by Manuel. Manuel was too evil.
 * Jerry "N00b" Springmouse = -93%. n00b. this n00b ain't going anywhere. superglued to the hurricane list for good. n00b
 * DAT KAREN = -27%. YOU PINKIE PROMISED!!!!!!!!1111
 * Lorenzo = NO%. All the ponies in Equestria are now crying. Please just donate £2 to the Royal Pony Safe Trust and you can make a difference. Thank you.

I thought I had done my already anyways.

Andrea:3% believe it or not she has been one of the most interesting so far but anyways just left some rains and three deaths. Retirement is out of the question.

Barry:2% Knowing Mexico for sure will not recommend this fail for retirement.They don`t even retire big hurricanes like Karl then this one is going to stay,I am pretty sure no ones remember a TS Barry in Mexico.

Chantal :1% Another system that sucumbs to the trade winds in the Ecab.Fail

Dorian: 1% and the parade of fail continues that 1% is just because he regenerate when the majority didn`t thought he will.

Erin:1%Did I really need to comment? It affect the Cape verde but if Fran in 1984 which I believe has been the most damaging and deadliest storm there which caused at least 32 deaths wasn`t retire then this one for sure will not for just rain

Fernand: 8% Not a fail but nothing that Mexico haven`t seen before

Gabrielle 1% She is finally out, that percent is for slight flooding in the virgin islands  and PR

Humberto 1% Our first hurricane and some rain to the cape verde islands but nothing more.His second life was a bust.

Ingrid: 10% I would love to give her a little more but she was not as bad as predict an Manuel is describe as being worse than her by Mexico news.So she is not going sorry.Manuel really put her at nothing now.

Jerry 0% Better than I imagine but still a fish and  a ts

Karen 0% Biggest troll of the season,she play with a lot of bloggers emotions,what she did was inexcusable.

Lorenzo???

.Allanjeffs 21:56, August 18, 2013 (UTC)

We don't have anything that stands a chance of retirement so far, but I'll put mine in anyway: --Dylan (HurricaneMaker99) 01:21, August 19, 2013 (UTC)
 * Meh, screw it.

Btw I discover that the Cape verdes are not a member in the group that represents the Atlantic basin that is why maybe Fran was not retire.I imagine that even if a storm affects Africa it will not be retire as they are not members of the same region.Allanjeffs 18:34, August 24, 2013 (UTC)

Very interesting, Allan. This would also explain why Beryl '82 and Delta '05 were not retired. They both affected the Cape Verdes/Canaries to a considerable extent, too. (I don't care if Delta was a Greek letter name, it should have been retired!) Andrew  Talk To Me  Contribs  Mail Me  19:11, August 24, 2013 (UTC)


 * Well, maybe in the future if a hurricane causes enough damage somehwere in Africa or in southern Europe (1842 Spain Hurricane), maybe the WMO could consider those countries for the North Atlantic group in the future. Andrew, as far as I know, the WMO discussed the naming lists in detail after 2005. Had the unnamed Azores subtropical storm been discovered operationally everything would've been pushed back 1 name, Wilma would've been Alpha, and we would've ended at Eta. The WMO said if a greek-named hurricane causes enough damage to warrant retirement, the name will be retired, but instead of being replaced with any particular name, the next time a hurricane season reaches the greek alphabet, the retired greek name will be skipped and the next one will be used instead (I.E. Alpha,  Beta, Gamma, if Beta becomes retired). No greek names in 2005 were retired, though Beta could've gotten a lot stronger if it remained offshore Nicaragua longer. I doubt we'll see any hurricane season in the near future that will go as far down the list as 2005 did, but with the way this active cycle has gone, anything is possible. Ryan1000 02:34, August 25, 2013 (UTC)


 * Gamma shouldn`t have been retire because damaga was not enough and if one of them should had been retire would have been 2005 as it was the deadliest of all the Greek letters.Allanjeffs 05:04, August 26, 2013 (UTC)
 * You mean Gamma? And look at this and tell me damage wasn't severe. 19 people died and Delta wrought $364 million in damage. Considering all the destruction was on the Canary Islands, that's pretty bad. I'm not sure if it would've been retired if the Canary Islands were part of the WMO group that represents the Atlantic basin, but still. --Dylan (HurricaneMaker99) 13:36, August 26, 2013 (UTC)
 * I'm don't think Spain is part of the WMO's list of countries in the North Atlantic, but if it is, or was, they sure would've retired Delta if they had the chance. The only disasters the Canary Islands see that are worse than rare storms like Delta are eruptions from the volcanoes on the islands (uncommon) or massive earthquakes/tsunamis from the Azores-Gibraltar Transform Fault that caused the great Lisbon Earthquake of 1755 (extremely rare). But 19 deaths and 364 million in damage are definitely retirement-worthy numbers, especially for them. Ryan1000 15:23, August 26, 2013 (UTC)


 * Thanks Dylan yes it was Gamma,and Spain is not part of the region only NAmer Central America and the Caribbean islands too.I believe Colombia may be but not remember I will ask my friend to give me the page again of the members,But the WMO can still ask for retirement if the country doesn`t ask that is the rule.I am not sure why they never ask for Gordon or Hanna though.Allanjeffs 21:18, August 27, 2013 (UTC)
 * Gordon was not retired because Haiti, for some unknown (and possibly unexcusable) reason, did not send a delegate to the WMO retirement conference. I assume Hanna stayed for the same reason. Andrew  Talk To Me  Contribs  Mail Me  21:26, August 27, 2013 (UTC)


 * In 1994 Haiti was suffering a civil war one of the worst of the country I imagine that is the prime reason as no one was interested in that kind of things in a period like that,Not sure with Hanna,and like I say if the country delegate don`t ask for retirement member of the WMO might.Allanjeffs 21:41, August 27, 2013 (UTC)

Well, even if Spain isn't part of the list of countries in the WMO, I bet that they could nominate a name if they so wished to. But the main areas are North America, Central America, the Caribbean, or, in the case of Fabian, Bermuda. If a big hurricane hits Spain/Portugal in the future I bet they could nominate it, but it's highly unlikely and they're in a pretty tight economic situation anyways. Asking for a hurricane name to be retired isn't likely something they would ask for. Ryan1000 22:25, August 27, 2013 (UTC)

My bets: -- Isaac829 E-Mail  22:17, October 3, 2013 (UTC)
 * All - 0% - *Presses button for failhorn*. I don't think anything could change my bet now.

Pretty much this. ^ Ryan1000 22:12, September 5, 2013 (UTC)

my turn

everything: 0%

leeboy100 (talk) 18:44, October 21, 2013 (UTC)

Simlover has spoken: Simlover123 <font color="White">   01:07, October 8, 2013 (UTC)
 * Andrea, Barry, Chantal, Fernand, and Gabrielle: 5% - Caused damage of some sort, but not enough whatsoever.
 * Ingrid: 20% - Even though Ingrid was worse than Fernand, Manuel beat her up in the end.
 * Everything else: 0% - Lots of fails.

Mid-season predictions
This is the time of the season when CSU and NOAA issue their mid-season forecasts for the remainder of the season. To concide with their recent predictions, I will release my personal mid-season predictions in this section. If anyone else would like to have a say in the activity for the rest of this Atlantic hurricane season, please feel free to post it here.

For the remainder of the 2013 Atlantic hurricane season, I predict:

16 named storms (Pablo), 7 hurricanes, 3 major hurricanes, and an ACE of 155.

The 2013 Atlantic hurricane season has had a very weak start. Although we have had four tropical storms, none of them have been strong or destructive. My previous prediction called for 21 named storms, 13 hurricanes, and 6 major hurricane. However, this forecast assumed June and July would be hectic. In reality, these two months were pathetic. A good analouge for this season, in my opinion, would be 2003, 2007, or 2010. All three of these seasons had sluggish June-Augusts, but then imploded in September. 2013 is poised to do the same. Also, I think we could see a re-Isabel or re-Ivan this season. In addition, it should be noted both 2003 and 2007 had a power outage of strong storms. 2007 had plenty of storms (fifteen), but only one storm (Dean) lasted longer than a week. 2003 had three impressive major hurricanes (Fabian, Isabel, and Kate), but was otherwise a dud season, minus Juan. I think 2013 will also be devoid of many strong system. This is why my forecast calls for a truckload of storms, but a disproportionate amount of hurricanes.

Andrew Talk To Me  Contribs  Mail Me  16:18, August 7, 2013 (UTC)

Andrew 2013 has been extremely active.It already has 4 name storms.2010 have Danielle until August 21 so give it a chance.I believe we are going to get between 16 to 17 names storms 8 to 9 hurricanes and 4 to 5 majors.Allanjeffs 19:16, August 7, 2013 (UTC)


 * I think we'll get a very active season this year; my predictions in my blog could actually be lackluster, I wouldn't be surprised if we get an explosion of activity in late August and September and possibly even run the table this year. I'm predicting a total of 18-21 named storms, 7-11 hurricanes, and 3-6 majors. The heart of the season is still yet to come. Don't lose hope for this year just yet. Ryan1000 19:20, August 7, 2013 (UTC)
 * I'll throw my hat in the ring and predict 13 named storms, 5 hurricanes, and 2 major hurricanes. --Dylan (HurricaneMaker99) 01:00, August 23, 2013 (UTC)
 * I'm thinking 11 named storms, 3 (or 4) hurricanes, and 1 major hurricane. This is looking like a near-average to inactive season. <font color="#00A" face="High Tower Text">Steven09876 <font color="#030">T 02:29, August 29, 2013 (UTC)
 * Steven, I think you are seriously underestimating the potential future activity for this season. The only reason we have not gone bonkers like 2005 or 2008 yet is because the SAL is keeping all these tropical waves in check. However, today, the SAL will depart the Atlantic for good, and from here on out, we could see a mega-explosion in activity. 1967, 1977, 1984, 1988, and 2001 had no hurricanes yet by this time in the season, yet all of them ended with at least five (1967 had six and 2001 had nine). 1961 had a record-dead August, but once September came, the Atlantic went nuts with five tropical storms, four of which (Betsy-Esther) ultimately became major hurricanes, and then had two major hurricanes form in October (Frances and Hattie). 1964 also went crazy after August (five major hurricanes formed after September 1!!!). The truth is, we actually have a long way to go, and now is not the time to write off the season. I now think 16 tropical storms, 8 hurricanes, and 4 major hurricanes will be our final tally. Andrew  Talk To Me  Contribs  Mail Me  02:52, August 29, 2013 (UTC)
 * Alright, I'm now thinking 14 named storms, 5 hurricanes, and 2 major hurricanes. Looks like the Atlantic might explode in September after all. But still, this season will be nowhere near the activity of 2010, 2011, and 2012. <font color="#00A" face="High Tower Text">Steven09876 <font color="#030">T 03:13, August 29, 2013 (UTC)
 * Yeah, this season isn't over yet. The Saharan Air Layer is starting to die down and the MJO will peak over the next two weeks. SST's are still above-normal for the Atlantic, and conditions are ripe for an explosion of activity to occur from here until say, late October. The two AOIs (one in the Central Atlantic, the other over Africa) have unfavorable conditions for now, but they could move into more favorable conditions later on. The Atlantic is far from dead; if you ask me it's just sleeping for now. But when it wakes up, it'll take off. Ryan1000 13:33, August 29, 2013 (UTC)
 * Because of the heavy shear and lack of the season to get on with it, I am downgrading my prediction to 14 total storms, 4 hurricanes, 1 major hurricane, and an ACE of 60. Unless we pull a 2001 explosion of activity, we are doomed. Andrew  Talk To Me  Contribs  Mail Me  11:37, September 6, 2013 (UTC)
 * I'm surprised the Atlantic has been so lackluster in activity...the SAL and wind shear are more persistent than I (and many climate experts + NHC) thought they'd be. Ryan1000 15:03, September 6, 2013 (UTC)

I now predict that we will end at 12-11-2-0. --Dylan (HurricaneMaker99) 23:11, September 29, 2013 (UTC)
 * FWIW, judging from the TCRs of Andrea, Dorian, and Erin, and the ATCF files of every other tropical storm, we currently have an ACE of 28.81. Slightly higher than I thought, but still absolutely pathetic. For comparison, last year's Nadine managed an ACE of 26.34 all by itself. Were the season's current ACE champ, Humberto, a storm in last year's AHS, it would rank in sixth behind Nadine, Michael, Leslie, Sandy, and Isaac, and less than half a point ahead of Gordon and Ernesto. --Dylan (HurricaneMaker99) 21:34, October 7, 2013 (UTC)
 * LOL, Humberto thinks it's 2012. LOL. Pinkie pie eg sigpic.png Rubber bands last longer when they are refrigerated. 22:07, October 7, 2013 (UTC)

Well, at least that is better than compared to 2004's storms. For comparison, Ivan (70.38), Frances (45.92) and Karl (28.4375) both generated higher ACEs than this entire season! In addition, Jeanne whipped 24.235 units of ACE by herself!! If Humberto was a storm in 2004, he would be bowing down to Ivan, Frances, Karl, Jeanne, Danielle, Lisa, Alex, and Charley! That is over 50% of all of 2004's storms. Now that illustrates how pathetic this season has been! Andrew Talk To Me  Contribs  Mail Me  11:02, October 8, 2013 (UTC)


 * 2004 was 6th in the top 10 highest ACE of any season, despite the fact an El Nino formed that year, so El Nino years don't always guarantee quiet seasons. That's something to watch out for next year. Also, 2004 was one of the costliest seasons ever, and the costliest on record at the time (2005 and 2012 have surpassed it since then, and 2008 came agonizingly close). Storms with high ACEs are amazing to watch, but also very sadening when they wreck entire countries, as some of the storms in 2004 did. Ryan1000 12:33, October 8, 2013 (UTC)


 * Ryan 2004 was a Modiki el Niño and they are typycally as active as a Neutral year or even la Niña.2006 and 2009 instead were El Niño years and 1997 was a super El Niño.Allanjeffs 22:59, October 10, 2013 (UTC)
 * GUESS WUT.
 * If there is that "Very Very Very Cyclonic Storm" in India right now, then there MIGHT BE A BIG FAT cane comming in da Atlantik!! Might happen with Oktaiv in da Paciffik! Woooot!! XD Pinkie pie eg sigpic.png Rubber bands last longer when they are refrigerated. 23:06, October 10, 2013 (UTC)
 * My point was, El Nino year <span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:'HelveticaNeue',Helvetica,Arial,san-serif;font-size:13px;line-height:16px;">≠  negligible year. We've had quite a few El Nino years before, aside from 2004, that were memorable years. 1972 was a very strong El Nino year -- so strong it had no major hurricanes, but Hurricane Agnes was the costliest hurricane in U.S. history at the time, and one of the deadliest as well. 1983 was a very strong El Nino also but Alicia was one of the costliest hurricanes on record at the time. 1992 and 1994 were also fairly powerful El Nino years but Hurricanes Andrew and Gordon, respectively, made those years quite memorable too. It's unlikely next year will be very active due to the expected El Nino by then, but that doesn't mean it won't be, and even if it's not very active with regards to ACE or named storms, it'll still be memorable if we get a big storm. While some El Nino years (like the ones you mentioned) are easily forgotten seasons, others can produce some of the biggest, most notable, storms ever. Ryan1000 22:21, October 11, 2013 (UTC)

Post-Season Changes
This could've begun a little sooner, but Andrea's TCR was released on the 22nd, 8 days ago. Not much has changed, winds are still 65 mph (55 knots), and it caused around 25 million in insured losses and 1 direct death in NC, 3 indirect ones from traffic accidents. Anyone have opinions on what will happen post-season? I think there might have been a storm in the Atlantic in June earlier from what was 92L on June 6, if not a storm a brief depression. Ryan1000 19:40, August 30, 2013 (UTC)

I could see a slight change in damages for Barry, and a slight intensity upgrade for Fernand and Dorian's second life. And I doubt Invest 92L will be classified. I do not know whether or not it had a closed circulation. Andrew Talk To Me  Contribs  Mail Me  13:23, September 1, 2013 (UTC)

Supposedly Ascat or oscat show a close circulation might be upgrade but it might not like 92L in 2010 which it wasn`t.Allanjeffs 00:56, September 2, 2013 (UTC)
 * Dorian and Erin are out. Dorian's pressure was raised slightly to 1002 mbar, and Erin's winds were given a bump to 40 kts. The recent TCR releases increase Dorian's ACE to 2.5725, and Erin's to 1.545. Still pathetic, but not quite as much as initially thought. --Dylan (HurricaneMaker99) 20:52, October 7, 2013 (UTC)


 * Chantal is out,she was the fastest moving tropical cyclone in the deep tropics with 28knots south of 20N since the satellite era her winds are up 65mph,and she had a minium pressure of 1003.4 are already out look like the poll for the last TCR will not be done this year.Allanjeffs 03:14, October 10, 2013 (UTC)
 * Allan, Chantal's winds were estimated at 65 mph operationally as well, so no change there. The pressure is a slight decrease from the operational estimate of 1005 mbar, though. With four out of eleven TCRs already out, I think we should bend the rules and open the TCR betting pool early this year. Anyone agree? --Dylan (HurricaneMaker99) 03:20, October 10, 2013 (UTC)


 * Thanks Dylan sorry I am so overcharge with projects I didn`t even remember about her winds.Sorry.I agree do it before all is done.Allanjeffs 03:39, October 10, 2013 (UTC)
 * No worries. I'll ping Ryan about it now. --Dylan (HurricaneMaker99) 03:54, October 10, 2013 (UTC)
 * There is still a chance we could see a few more storms through the rest of October (3 more weeks, possibly a notable storm or two as well), but if we don't see much by the end of October, we can open the TCR predictions in the betting pools by November 1st, a month before what I said back in december 2011 with Washi. Ryan1000 17:24, October 10, 2013 (UTC)


 * Barry TCR is out.Not sure if they were any changes,but winds are the same.We need 7 more.Allanjeffs 20:21, October 11, 2013 (UTC)
 * Nothing's new with him, but we still might get a storm or two in October (still keeping a wary eye on 98L as it heads west). Again, if we get nothing big, we can start it by November, assuming we still have a few left by then. Ryan1000 22:06, October 11, 2013 (UTC)


 * (edit conflict) Allan, Barry's ACE has been raised from 0.565 to 0.7625. It is a small change, but still. Our ACE is now at 28.2175, which is still incredibly pathetic (as I described above three storms from the 2004 AHS alone generated a higher ACE than this entire season (Ivan, Frances, and Karl)!) Andrew  Talk To Me  Contribs  Mail Me  22:09, October 11, 2013 (UTC)
 * Don't really give one on the TCRs except Humberto. Just waiting if they will improve this swaggalicious storm. Miley sigpic.jpg TWERK TEAM! 19:47, October 12, 2013 (UTC)
 * We have 6 out now (Fernand and Andrea new). Eh, I've changed my mind on the TCR's. Now that we have only 5 left, I think it would be best to begin it now. None of the reliable models show development in the next week, nor do conditions seem to favor it. We might still get one more storm, but I doubt we'll pull a Sandy this year. Ryan1000 19:46, October 15, 2013 (UTC)