Forum:2017 Atlantic hurricane season/Betting pools

These are the betting pools for the 2017 Atlantic Hurricane Season!

To keep it fun, no betting on storms that have already formed!

Note: I've made a few slight changes to some of the sections to make things less confusing --Ryan1000

No actual betting is going on here (that I'm aware of)

Informal betting on date of formation of first storm
You can add in your own date if you want to do so.
 * Before May 1 -
 * May 1 to 10 - Nkechinyer (talk)Nkechinyer (My Prediction starts with the Formation of Arlene on May 4)
 * May 11 to 20 - Anonymous 2.0 (talk) 17:28, November 26, 2016 (UTC)
 * May 21 to 31 -  T G  17:14, November 26, 2016 (UTC); ~ KN2731 {talk} 14:05, December 10, 2016 (UTC)
 * June 1 to 10 - Whiplash (talk) 14:20, December 14, 2016 (UTC)
 * June 11 to 20 - Ryan1000 04:35, November 26, 2016 (UTC) ~  Steve   Chat :D  Contribs  Email me  00:48, December 1, 2016 (UTC)
 * June 21 to 30 - Thinking we'll see a later start in 2017. ~ Bob Page  Wall  Edits  FORM PAULA FORM! 01:19, December 1, 2016 (UTC) Agreeing with Bob. Jdcomix (talk) 01:21, December 1, 2016 (UTC) - I agree with Bob as well (Garfield)
 * July 1 to 10 -
 * July 11 to 20 -
 * July 21 to 31 -
 * August 1 to 10 -
 * August 11 to 20 -
 * August 21 to 31 -
 * September 1 to 30 -
 * After September 30 -
 * There will be no storms this year (highly unlikely) -

Informal betting on date of dissipation of last storm
You can add in your own date if you want to do so.
 * There will be no storms this year (highly unlikely) -
 * Before October 1 -
 * October 1 to 10 -
 * October 11 to 20 -
 * October 21 to 31 - ~ Bob Page  Wall  Edits  FORM PAULA FORM! 01:19, December 1, 2016 (UTC)
 * November 1 to 10 - Ryan1000 04:35, November 26, 2016 (UTC)
 * November 11 to 20 -  T G  17:14, November 26, 2016 (UTC) (Garfield); Whiplash (talk) 14:20, December 14, 2016 (UTC)
 * November 21 to 30 -
 * December 1 to 10 - Anonymous 2.0 (talk) 17:28, November 26, 2016 (UTC) Betting on some post-season surprise. ~  Steve   Chat :D  Contribs  Email me  00:48, December 1, 2016 (UTC)
 * December 11 to 20 - Jdcomix (talk) 01:21, December 1, 2016 (UTC); ~ KN2731 {talk} 14:06, December 10, 2016 (UTC)
 * December 21 to 31 - Nkechinyer (talk)Nkechinyer (The last storm in my prediction dissipates on December 21)
 * Storm active at start of 2018 -

Informal betting on strangest storm
I couldn't resist. What storm do you think will shred the rules of climatology the most? Please tell why, it makes it more fun.

This section is just for fun. There will likely be no winner. Because of this, you can bet on as many names as you want, but please do not cross out the names as they form, and please do not bet on a storm that has already formed. ;)


 * Arlene -
 * Bret -
 * Cindy -
 * Don - Makes landfall in the Yucatan Peninsula, its circulation dissipates and its remnants regenerates into Tropical Storm "Hilary" in the EPAC. ~ Bob Page  Wall  Edits  FORM PAULA FORM! 01:19, December 1, 2016 (UTC)
 * Emily -
 * Franklin -
 * Gert -
 * Harvey -
 * Irma - Becomes one of the longest lasting storms ever, rivaling Nadine 2012 and Kyle 2002 as it meanders in the open Atlantic. ~  Steve   Chat :D  Contribs  Email me  00:48, December 1, 2016 (UTC)
 * Jose - Slams into Mexico as a weak failure like in 2005 and asks Mexico to retire him, but they reply with "No way Jose". Ryan1000 04:35, November 26, 2016 (UTC) "Jose is a very unsual Subtropical Hurricane which strikes Portugal as a S1 in September." Nkechinyer (talk)Nkechinyer
 * Katia -
 * Lee -
 * Maria -
 * Nate -
 * Ophelia -
 * Philippe -
 * Rina -
 * Sean - I expect something cool out of this. (Garfield)
 * Tammy -
 * Vince -
 * Whitney -

Informal betting on strongest storm name
No betting on storms that have already formed. Sorry. If you think two storms will share the same intensity, sign for each, and if there is a storm with the highest winds but another with the lowest pressure by the end of the season, we will split the title.


 * Arlene -
 * Bret -
 * Cindy -
 * Don -
 * Emily -
 * Franklin - ~ Bob Page  Wall  Edits  FORM PAULA FORM! 01:19, December 1, 2016 (UTC)
 * Gert -Allan the Honduran boy 12:04, December 10, 2016 (UTC)
 * Harvey - Ryan1000 04:35, November 26, 2016 (UTC); Whiplash (talk) 14:21, December 14, 2016 (UTC)
 * Irma -
 * Jose - ~  Steve   Chat :D  Contribs  Email me  00:48, December 1, 2016 (UTC) Garfield
 * Katia -  T G  17:14, November 26, 2016 (UTC); ~ KN2731 {talk} 14:07, December 10, 2016 (UTC)
 * Lee -
 * Maria -
 * Nate - Anonymous 2.0 (talk) 17:28, November 26, 2016 (UTC) Nkechinyer (talk)Nkechinyer
 * Ophelia -
 * Philippe -
 * Rina -
 * Sean -
 * Tammy -
 * Vince -
 * Whitney -

Informal betting on weakest storm name (excluding depressions)
No betting on storms that have already formed. Sorry. If you think two storms will share the same intensity, sign for each, and if there is a storm with the lowest winds but another with the highest pressure by the end of the season, we will split the title.


 * Arlene - Whiplash (talk) 14:21, December 14, 2016 (UTC)
 * Bret - why not ~ KN2731 {talk} 14:08, December 10, 2016 (UTC)
 * Cindy - Anonymous 2.0 (talk) 17:28, November 26, 2016 (UTC) 40 mph Fail that only lasts 2 days and dissipates over Nicaragua. Nkechinyer (talk)Nkechinyer
 * Don - Another round for weakness.Allan the Honduran boy 12:05, December 10, 2016 (UTC)
 * Emily -
 * Franklin - Ryan1000 04:35, November 26, 2016 (UTC)
 * Gert -  T G  17:14, November 26, 2016 (UTC) Garfield
 * Harvey -
 * Irma - Tied with Cindy, briefly strengthens into a 40 mph Tropical Storm before hitting the coast of Florida, quickly weakening to a depression and eventually makes a 2nd landfall as a TD near Apachicola. Nkechinyer (talk)Nkechinyer
 * Jose -
 * Katia -
 * Lee -
 * Maria -
 * Nate - Pathetic 40 mph 24-hour lasting fail. ~ <font face="Impact"> Steve   Chat :D  Contribs  Email me  00:48, December 1, 2016 (UTC)
 * Ophelia -
 * Philippe -
 * Rina -
 * Sean -
 * Tammy -
 * Vince -
 * Whitney -

Informal betting on the highest winds
Winds are in miles per hour. And no betting on storms with winds mentioned that have already formed.
 * Less than 115 -
 * 115 -
 * 120 -
 * 125 -
 * 130 -
 * 140 - ~ Bob <font face="Arial">Page  <font face="Arial">Wall  <font face="Arial">Edits  FORM PAULA FORM! 01:19, December 1, 2016 (UTC)
 * 145 - Whiplash (talk) 14:21, December 14, 2016 (UTC)
 * 150 - Ryan1000 04:35, November 26, 2016 (UTC) Garfield
 * 155 -
 * 160 -  T G  17:14, November 26, 2016 (UTC)
 * 165 -
 * 170 -Allan the Honduran boy 12:05, December 10, 2016 (UTC)
 * 175 - Nate holds this one, undergoing a Massive RI just after forming to a peak strength of 175 mph, making it the 2nd strongest atlantic storm on record (in terms of winds) Nkechinyer (talk)Nkechinyer
 * 180 -
 * 185 - Anonymous 2.0 (talk) 17:28, November 26, 2016 (UTC) I feel we will see something very powerful this year. ~ <font face="Impact"> Steve   Chat :D  Contribs  Email me  00:48, December 1, 2016 (UTC)
 * 190 - the Atlantic needs a new insanely powerful storm ~ KN2731 {talk} 14:10, December 10, 2016 (UTC)
 * 195 -
 * 200 or more (Worldwide record high, Hurricane Patricia in 2015, highly unlikely) -

Informal betting on the lowest pressure
Pressures are in ranges per 5 mbars. You can add in your own pressure if you want to do so, but no betting on storms with the listed pressures that have already formed.
 * Above 960 -
 * 960-956 -
 * 955-950 -
 * 949-945 -
 * 944-940 - Eh, I don't think we'll see any huge storms this year intensity-wise. ~ Bob <font face="Arial">Page  <font face="Arial">Wall  <font face="Arial">Edits  FORM PAULA FORM! 01:19, December 1, 2016 (UTC); Whiplash (talk) 14:22, December 14, 2016 (UTC)
 * 939-935 - Garfield
 * 934-930 - Ryan1000 04:35, November 26, 2016 (UTC)
 * 929-925 -
 * 924-920 -  T G  17:14, November 26, 2016 (UTC)
 * 919-915 -
 * 914-910 -
 * 909-905 -
 * 904-900 -
 * 899-895 - Anonymous 2.0 (talk) 17:28, November 26, 2016 (UTC)
 * 894-890 -
 * 889-885 - ~ <font face="Impact"> Steve   Chat :D  Contribs  Email me  00:48, December 1, 2016 (UTC) Nate has a pressure of 889 mbar. Nkechinyer (talk)Nkechinyer; ~ KN2731 {talk} 14:10, December 10, 2016 (UTC)
 * 884-880 - (Atlantic record low, Hurricane Wilma in 2005, 882 mbar)
 * 879-875 -
 * 874-870 - (Worldwide record low, Typhoon Tip in 1979, 870 mbar)
 * Less than 870 - (exceptionally unlikely)

Informal betting on longest lasting storm (By time in days)
Predict how many days the longest lasting storm will exist! (In the rare case that a storm exits the basin, only days spent inside the basin are counted)
 * Less than 3 -
 * 3 -
 * 4 -
 * 5 -
 * 6 -
 * 7 -
 * 8 -
 * 9 -
 * 10 - Whiplash (talk) 14:22, December 14, 2016 (UTC)
 * 11 - Ryan1000 04:35, November 26, 2016 (UTC)
 * 12 - ~ Bob <font face="Arial">Page  <font face="Arial">Wall  <font face="Arial">Edits  FORM PAULA FORM! 01:19, December 1, 2016 (UTC)
 * 13 -
 * 14 -  T G  17:14, November 26, 2016 (UTC)
 * 15-16 - Garfield
 * 17-18 - ~ KN2731 {talk} 14:10, December 10, 2016 (UTC)
 * 19-20 - Anonymous 2.0 (talk) 17:28, November 26, 2016 (UTC)
 * 21-22 -
 * 23-25 - Irma. ~ <font face="Impact"> Steve   Chat :D  Contribs  Email me  00:48, December 1, 2016 (UTC)
 * 26-28 -
 * 29-31 (Record high, 1899 San Ciriaco Hurricane) - Hurricane Bret holds this record, a Category 2 Hurricane that meanders in the Eastern Atlantic for nearly a month. Nkechinyer (talk)Nkechinyer
 * 32 or more (Very unlikely) -

Informal betting on number of tropical depressions
As I mentioned on the top of the page, I am slightly editing the following sections for predictions on the total number of depressions, storms, hurricanes, and major hurricanes for the season, instead of storms peaking at individual categories.
 * There will be no tropical depressions this year (exceptionally unlikely)
 * 1 -
 * 2 -
 * 3 -
 * 4 -
 * 5 -
 * 6 -
 * 7 -
 * 8 -
 * 9 -
 * 10 -
 * 11 -
 * 12 - Whiplash (talk) 14:23, December 14, 2016 (UTC)
 * 13 -
 * 14 - ~ Bob <font face="Arial">Page  <font face="Arial">Wall  <font face="Arial">Edits  FORM PAULA FORM! 01:19, December 1, 2016 (UTC)
 * 15 - Ryan1000 04:35, November 26, 2016 (UTC)
 * 16 -
 * 17 -  T G  17:14, November 26, 2016 (UTC)
 * 18 -
 * 19 - Garfield
 * 20 -
 * 21-25 - Anonymous 2.0 (talk) 17:28, November 26, 2016 (UTC) I sense an almost 2005-like season this year. ~ <font face="Impact"> Steve   Chat :D  Contribs  Email me  00:48, December 1, 2016 (UTC) 23 depressions form, but only 16 become named storms. Nkechinyer (talk)Nkechinyer
 * 26-31 (record, 2005) -
 * More than 31 (highly unlikely) -

Informal betting on number of named storms

 * There will be no named storms this year (highly unlikely)
 * 1 -
 * 2 -
 * 3 -
 * 4 -
 * 5 -
 * 6 -
 * 7 -
 * 8 -
 * 9 -
 * 10 -
 * 11 - Whiplash (talk) 14:23, December 14, 2016 (UTC)
 * 12 -
 * 13 - ~ Bob <font face="Arial">Page  <font face="Arial">Wall  <font face="Arial">Edits  FORM PAULA FORM! 01:19, December 1, 2016 (UTC)
 * 14 - Ryan1000 04:35, November 26, 2016 (UTC)
 * 15 -
 * 16 -  T G  17:14, November 26, 2016 (UTC) 16 Named Storms, despite 23 Depressions. Nkechinyer (talk)Nkechinyer
 * 17 -
 * 18 - Garfield (not going too high this year)
 * 19 -
 * 20-24 - Anonymous 2.0 (talk) 17:28, November 26, 2016 (UTC) ~ <font face="Impact"> Steve   Chat :D  Contribs  Email me  00:48, December 1, 2016 (UTC)
 * 25-28 (record, 2005) -
 * 29 or more (highly unlikely) -

Informal betting on number of hurricanes

 * There will be no hurricanes this year (record low, 1907 and 1914) -
 * 1 -
 * 2 -
 * 3 -
 * 4 - Whiplash (talk) 14:23, December 14, 2016 (UTC)
 * 5 - ~ Bob <font face="Arial">Page  <font face="Arial">Wall  <font face="Arial">Edits  FORM PAULA FORM! 01:19, December 1, 2016 (UTC)
 * 6 - Ryan1000 04:35, November 26, 2016 (UTC)
 * 7 -
 * 8 -  T G  17:14, November 26, 2016 (UTC)
 * 9 -  Nine Hurricanes, 4 of which become majors. Nkechinyer (talk)Nkechinyer
 * 10 - Anonymous 2.0 (talk) 17:28, November 26, 2016 (UTC) Garfield
 * 11 - ~ <font face="Impact"> Steve   Chat :D  Contribs  Email me  00:48, December 1, 2016 (UTC)
 * 12 -
 * 13 -
 * 14 -
 * 15 (record, 2005) -
 * 16 or more (highly unlikely) -

Informal betting on number of major hurricanes

 * There will be no major hurricanes this year (record low set most recently in 2013, highly unlikely) -
 * 1 - Whiplash (talk) 14:24, December 14, 2016 (UTC)
 * 2 - ~ Bob <font face="Arial">Page  <font face="Arial">Wall  <font face="Arial">Edits  FORM PAULA FORM! 01:19, December 1, 2016 (UTC)
 * 3 - Ryan1000 04:35, November 26, 2016 (UTC)  T G  17:14, November 26, 2016 (UTC)
 * 4 - Anonymous 2.0 (talk) 17:28, November 26, 2016 (UTC) ~ <font face="Impact"> Steve   Chat :D  Contribs  Email me  00:48, December 1, 2016 (UTC) Garfield Four Major Hurricanes- Franklin (C4), Lee (C3), Nate (C5), Phillippe (C3) Nkechinyer (talk)Nkechinyer
 * 5 -
 * 6 -
 * 7 (record, 1961 and 2005) -
 * 8 or more (highly unlikely) -

Informal betting on number of deaths
No betting on death tolls that currently exist. Sorry.
 * Less than 50 -
 * 51-100 - Whiplash (talk) 14:24, December 14, 2016 (UTC)
 * 101-500 - ~ Bob <font face="Arial">Page  <font face="Arial">Wall  <font face="Arial">Edits  FORM PAULA FORM! 01:19, December 1, 2016 (UTC) Assuming technology cooperates, even when storms make landfall, I don't think the death toll will be super high. The Most Destructive Storm of the Season, Nate, is responsible for 235 of the seasons 303 total deaths. Nkechinyer (talk)Nkechinyer
 * 501 - 1000 - Ryan1000 04:35, November 26, 2016 (UTC) Garfield
 * 1001 - 2000 -  T G  17:14, November 26, 2016 (UTC)
 * 2001 - 3000 - Anonymous 2.0 (talk) 17:28, November 26, 2016 (UTC)
 * 3001 - 4000 -
 * 4001 - 5000 -
 * 5001 - 6000 -
 * 6001 - 7000 -
 * 7001 - 8000 -
 * 8001 - 9000 -
 * 9001 - 10000 -
 * 10001 - 15000 - I feel a Mitch-like tragedy is due this year... ~ <font face="Impact"> Steve   Chat :D  Contribs  Email me  00:48, December 1, 2016 (UTC)
 * 15001 - 20000 -
 * Greater than 20000 deaths - (all time record, 1780)

Informal betting on damage totals
No betting on damage totals that currently exist. Sorry.
 * Less than 100 million -
 * 100-500 million -
 * 500 milion-1 billion -
 * 1-5 billion -  T G  17:14, November 26, 2016 (UTC) ~ Bob  <font face="Arial">Page  <font face="Arial">Wall  <font face="Arial">Edits  FORM PAULA FORM! 01:19, December 1, 2016 (UTC)
 * 5-10 billion - Ryan1000 04:35, November 26, 2016 (UTC) I think damages will be at about 7.75 Billion (USD), and about half of it is from Hurricane Nate. Nkechinyer (talk)Nkechinyer
 * 10-20 billion - Garfield
 * 20-40 billion - Anonymous 2.0 (talk) 17:28, November 26, 2016 (UTC)
 * 40-80 billion - ~ <font face="Impact"> Steve   Chat :D  Contribs  Email me  00:48, December 1, 2016 (UTC)
 * 80-180 billion (record high, 2005) -
 * Over 180 billion (extremely unlikely) -

Informal betting on ACE totals
No betting on ACE totals that currently exist. Sorry.
 * Less than 40 - (record low, 1914)
 * 40-49 -
 * 50-59 -
 * 60-69 -
 * 70-79 -
 * 80-89 -
 * 90-99 -
 * 100-109 - ~ Bob <font face="Arial">Page  <font face="Arial">Wall  <font face="Arial">Edits  FORM PAULA FORM! 01:19, December 1, 2016 (UTC)
 * 110-119 -
 * 120-129 - Ryan1000 04:35, November 26, 2016 (UTC)
 * 130-139 - Garfield
 * 140-149 -  T G  17:14, November 26, 2016 (UTC) "I don't have any figures about this for my prediction, so specifying that I predict a slightly more active season than 2016, I think this is a reasonable number" Nkechinyer (talk)Nkechinyer
 * 150-159 -
 * 160-169 - hoping we have more powerful storms next year ~ KN2731 {talk} 14:11, December 10, 2016 (UTC)
 * 170-189 -
 * 190-209 - ~ <font face="Impact"> Steve   Chat :D  Contribs  Email me  00:48, December 1, 2016 (UTC)
 * 210-229 -
 * 230-249 - Anonymous 2.0 (talk) 17:28, November 26, 2016 (UTC)
 * 250-259 (record high, 1933) -
 * More than 259 (extremely unlikely) -

Informal betting on number of retired names
No betting on obvious numbers from storms that have already formed. Sorry.
 * No names (record low set most recently in 2014) -
 * 1 name - Ryan1000 04:35, November 26, 2016 (UTC), ~ Bob <font face="Arial">Page  <font face="Arial">Wall  <font face="Arial">Edits  FORM PAULA FORM! 01:19, December 1, 2016 (UTC)
 * 2 names -  T G  17:14, November 26, 2016 (UTC)
 * 3 names - Garfield
 * 4 names - Anonymous 2.0 (talk) 17:28, November 26, 2016 (UTC) ~ <font face="Impact"> Steve   Chat :D  Contribs  Email me  00:48, December 1, 2016 (UTC)
 * 5 names (record high, 2005) - 5 Names from my season are retired: Nate, Lee, Franklin, Phillippe, and Jose. Nkechinyer (talk)Nkechinyer
 * More than 5 names (extremely unlikely) -

Informal betting on number of subtropical storms
How many storms will peak at subtropical storm intensity? If you want to be extremely specific, please write down the names of the storms you think will do so.
 * None -  T G  17:14, November 26, 2016 (UTC), ~ Bob  <font face="Arial">Page  <font face="Arial">Wall  <font face="Arial">Edits  FORM PAULA FORM! 01:19, December 1, 2016 (UTC)
 * 1 - Ryan1000 04:35, November 26, 2016 (UTC) ~ <font face="Impact"> Steve   Chat :D  Contribs  Email me  00:48, December 1, 2016 (UTC) Garfield "I don't know what to put here, but I'm going to say 1 because Jose starts as a Subtropical Storm, but strengthens to a extremely unusual Subtropical Category 1 Hurricane near Portugal. We could also take this lightly as it becomes Tropical later in it's track." Nkechinyer (talk)Nkechinyer
 * 2 - Anonymous 2.0 (talk) 17:28, November 26, 2016 (UTC)
 * 3 -
 * 4 or more (record high, four in 1974) -

Informal betting on number of off-season storms
How many storms do you think will form off-season? If you want to be specific, write down the storm names that you think will form off-season. P.S. A storm that forms in November but persists into December counts as an off-season storm.
 * None - Ryan1000 04:35, November 26, 2016 (UTC), ~ Bob <font face="Arial">Page  <font face="Arial">Wall  <font face="Arial">Edits  FORM PAULA FORM! 01:19, December 1, 2016 (UTC) Garfield
 * 1 -  T G  17:14, November 26, 2016 (UTC) A post-season surprise in early December. ~ <font face="Impact"> Steve    Chat :D  Contribs  Email me  00:48, December 1, 2016 (UTC)
 * 2 - Anonymous 2.0 (talk) 17:28, November 26, 2016 (UTC)
 * 3 - Arlene, Bret, and Phillippe are all off-season. Nkechinyer (talk)Nkechinyer
 * 4 -
 * 5 (record high, 1887) -
 * More than 5 (exceptionally unlikely) -

Informal betting on final tropical cyclone report issued
This betting pool is closed until December 2017.