Forum:2017 Atlantic hurricane season/Maria

AOI: Central Atlantic
Another area of invest is up on the TWO, this is at 10/30 for 5 days as it heads westward towards the Antilles. Could be something to watch out for down the road. Ryan1000 23:59, September 13, 2017 (UTC)


 * The due westward path for this wave in particular is concerning even if it doesn't become anything in the Atlantic any waves like this getting into the overheated Caribbean at the moment could be a risk for becoming another major storm. --Whiplash (talk) 04:47, September 14, 2017 (UTC)
 * Up to 10/40. Ryan1000 11:51, September 14, 2017 (UTC)
 * Now 20/60, and expected to follow in the wake of where Irma and Jose RI'd over. Hopefully the upwelled water in the wake of those two storms keeps this from getting too strong down the road. Ryan1000 12:07, September 14, 2017 (UTC)

96L.INVEST
It's now invested...AL, 96, 2017091412,, BEST, 0, 85N, 330W, 20, 1012, DB. Ryan1000 12:33, September 14, 2017 (UTC)


 * At 20/70, and I expect this to be Maria. It appears that, along with Jose, it could affect Irma recovery areas in the northeastern Caribbean. I really hope that upwelled water in the wake of Irma and Jose keep to-be Lee/Maria from getting too powerful. Otherwise, if the upwelled water ends up not being enough, we could deal with another destructive monster. That better not happen... ~  Steve   Talk Page  My Edits  📧  22:40, September 14, 2017 (UTC)


 * This storm is the worrisome one. Although the other one will develop first there is a good likelihood this will be another major once it reaches the Caribbean. If this gets south of Cuba we could have our second Cat 5 of the year if atmosphere conditions are good as those waters are EXTREMELY toasty. --Whiplash (talk) 23:25, September 14, 2017 (UTC)
 * Now 30/70. I think this will be Maria since 97L will be Lee. Hurricanes, hurricanes, hurricanes!-68.106.0.77 00:08, September 15, 2017 (UTC)
 * Up to 30/80. It would suck for the Lessers to get a third potential strike or close call this season after the hell that Irma put them through, but still, this bears watching. The latest few runs of the GFS have taken this into or on the eastern tip of Hispaniola before eventually moving to a landfall in South Carolina as a strong hurricane way down the road, but it's still too soon to tell. Ryan1000 02:28, September 15, 2017 (UTC)
 * Up to 40/80. Future-Maria is looking dangerous in the long run imo... ~  Steve   Talk Page  My Edits  📧  05:30, September 15, 2017 (UTC)
 * 50/90, this will maybe become Maria. Hurricanes, hurricanes, hurricanes!-68.106.0.77 14:26, September 15, 2017 (UTC)
 * 70/90!"Tropical cyclone expected to form over the weekend."12.144.5.2 18:35, September 15, 2017 (UTC)
 * 80/90 at the 8 PM TWO.12.144.5.2 01:58, September 16, 2017 (UTC)
 * 90/90, this will be 16L/Lee (or Maria) shortly. Hurricanes, hurricanes, hurricanes!-68.106.0.77 05:35, September 16, 2017 (UTC)

Potential Tropical Cyclone Fifteen
Just formed with winds of 35 mph and a pressure of 1008 mbar. T G  2 0 1 7 14:55, September 16, 2017 (UTC)


 * Forecast to become a TS but why isn't it a depression?12.144.5.2 16:33, September 16, 2017 (UTC)

Tropical Depression Fifteen
Discuss this storm here. --Roblox543


 * Tropical storm watches have spread across the Lesser Antilles.12.144.5.2 18:02, September 16, 2017 (UTC)


 * Depending on how the models play out it looks like this likely will be retirement candidate number 3. Both the Euro and GFS suggest another major hurricane strike on the U.S. Have to say Maria is my favorite name on this list so not sure what I think of her being a potentially destructive storm. Also if the forecast does play out I believe this would be the first year potentially where two names are retired that start with the same letter other than I? Maybe the start of an M curse? --Whiplash (talk) 18:39, September 16, 2017 (UTC)
 * 5-day NHC forecast seems to level off before reaching Cat 2.12.144.5.2 19:13, September 16, 2017 (UTC)
 * This is a late response, but for what it's worth Whiplash, two consecutive 'C' names (Carol and Connie) were retired after 1954 and 1955, and then 2003 and 2004 each had their respective 'F' (Fabian, Frances) and 'J' (Juan, Jeanne) names retired. --Dylan (HurricaneMaker99) 03:19, September 17, 2017 (UTC)


 * Thank you, Dylan. I need to brush up on my hurricane trivia. --Whiplash (talk) 20:42, September 17, 2017 (UTC)

So, forecasts only take this up to 90 mph, but I have a bad feeling that Future-Maria could explode. I sure do hope I'm wrong. Leeboy100 Hoping for recovery. 19:15, September 16, 2017 (UTC)


 * I hope you're wrong as well. This depression scares me. It's forecast to pass through the Leeward Islands and Irma recovery areas as a C1 hurricane, and after that it appears to be another threat to the U.S. Stay tuned for what could be our 3rd real retirement candidate this season. ~  Steve   Talk Page  My Edits  📧  20:14, September 16, 2017 (UTC)

Tropical Storm Maria
Upgraded, and 50 mph/1002 mbars. Now forecast to become a major hurricane directly striking Puerto Rico. Maria is our 3rd real retirement candidate, I can see it already... ~  Steve   Talk Page  My Edits  📧  20:49, September 16, 2017 (UTC)

Here we go. Hope Maria isn't as bad as feared. Leeboy100 Hoping for recovery. 20:55, September 16, 2017 (UTC)


 * 50 mph already? Shes strengthening quickly. I think she is going to be another nightmare storm shes gonna bust straight through the Caribbean islands and then charge right at the US East Coast as a significant hurricane. I made the prediction there would be 1 more storm during Irma when she was occurring, looks like Maria is going to be that storm and hopefully the last one for the season. --Whiplash (talk) 21:01, September 16, 2017 (UTC)


 * Satellite images suggest eye wall is forming looks like Maria is undergoing rapid intensification. Might be a hurricane by next advisory. This storm already looks very impressive on satellite. I think she will be stronger than the forecast. --Whiplash (talk) 22:16, September 16, 2017 (UTC)
 * This is getting REALLY scary. Here comes Irma's sister! :O ~  Steve   Talk Page  My Edits  📧  22:43, September 16, 2017 (UTC)

I can't take these scary potentially big, potentially destructive hurricanes anymore. Can hurricane season just end extremely early this year? Leeboy100 Hoping for recovery. 22:48, September 16, 2017 (UTC)

NHC forecast says Maria will peak in four days with 120 mph winds and then weaken.Unfortunately that peak is near Puerto Rico.Meanwhile,Barbuda,devastated by Irma and evacuated for Jose,shares in the Hurricane Watch.12.144.5.2 23:52, September 16, 2017 (UTC)


 * The global models have depicted a lot of possible scenarios for the east coast with this storm after it passes the Caribbean, the most recent Euro scenario showing Maria and Jose doing a fujiwhara loop around each other as Maria catches up with Jose, another brings this out to sea from Jose's southern outflow, and some runs making this a headlong rush into or around Charleston, SC after Jose heads out to sea. But how and where Jose moves could have a big impact on where Maria goes with the eastern U.S. after Puerto Rico gets hit by this. Ryan1000 00:45, September 17, 2017 (UTC)
 * Now this is one storm to watch. Puerto Rico is in danger since Maria is expected to hit it as a major hurricane. Hurricanes, hurricanes, hurricanes!-68.106.0.77 04:47, September 17, 2017 (UTC)

65 mph, 994 mbars. Forecast to hit Puerto Rico and eastern Hispaniola (Dominican Republic side) as a major. Maria is now more likely to become the next monster storm of the season. Anonymous 2.0 (talk) 09:48, September 17, 2017 (UTC)
 * 8AM update: no change in strength. However, Maria is now expected to intensify to a hurricane later today. Anonymous 2.0 (talk) 12:14, September 17, 2017 (UTC)
 * 11AM: No change at all, except that Maria is now forecast to reach 125 mph. Anonymous 2.0 (talk) 15:01, September 17, 2017 (UTC)
 * After the 125mph peak (which I think appeared overnight) it's expected to weaken,though...12.144.5.2 15:11, September 17, 2017 (UTC)
 * And hopefully you are right, 12. Maria really needs to weaken significantly after affecting the Antilles to lessen its effects in the United States. We don't need another Harvey or Irma at this point; unfortunately, that still depends on how the Caribbean will take the brunt of this storm — sadly that depends on Maria's intensity, and the SSTs are too conducive to host another major. Meanwhile, the latest Euro run shows that while Jose will still do another loop, Maria will hit the Carolinas as a strong hurricane instead. There's still hope though: this time I'm rooting for the GFS to be accurate (though it has a questionable track record). The latest GFS run I have seen takes both Jose and Maria just offshore the East Coast before recurving east, towards the open Atlantic. Anonymous 2.0 (talk) 15:43, September 17, 2017 (UTC)

Recon flight has found 984 pressure with 60 knt winds. Next update should be in 30 minutes. Models have extremely interesting interactions between Jose and this storm and that will likely determine the fate of the Eastern seaboard will have to keep watching Jose not because he is particularly interesting (he isn't anymore) but Fujiwara effect on Maria could be... Also seeing a few models showing a tropical storm Nate coming up in the Gulf after Maria. I believe GFS was showing a little while ago but isn't now the CMC model though still is although it is inaccurate as hell. :) --Whiplash (talk) 20:31, September 17, 2017 (UTC)

Hurricane Maria
Hey fam. 982mb 75mph. --Whiplash (talk) 21:01, September 17, 2017 (UTC)


 * So, it's a hurricane already. The Windward Islands and Leeward Islands need to prepare for this. And then Puerto Rico could get demolished (hope not). In the long run, Maria is looking like a major east coast threat, unless the interaction with Jose moves Maria safely out to sea. Stay tuned. ~  Steve   Talk Page  My Edits  📧  22:20, September 17, 2017 (UTC)
 * The GFS has now jumped onto the Euro's earlier projection and makes Jose do a loop on or just off the Massachusetts coast and expects Jose's southern outflow recurve Maria off the east coast and out to sea. Unfortunately, the Euro's new run doesn't do a fujiwhara loop with Jose and Maria like it showed before, but now it shows Jose moving out to sea sooner and makes Maria a powerful major hurricane racing northward to a headlong rush into New York or elsewhere in New England, and that's not good. After the horrible devastation wrought by Harvey and Irma, we really don't need to see another devastating hurricane hit the U.S. this year. Hopefully mother nature spares the U.S. from this one down the road (barring Puerto Rico, since it's inevitable they're going to be hit by Maria at this point). Ryan1000 22:35, September 17, 2017 (UTC)

Maria, no. Be a good hurricane. Bad hurricanes get their names retired, and live on in infamy. Plus, we need a break. Unfortunately, it looks like Maria won't give us a break. Leeboy100 Hoping for recovery. 23:48, September 17, 2017 (UTC)

Please Maria. Please. DON'T BE ANOTHER IRMA. People are fed up with this already. blow a kiss fier a gun all wee need is somebodey to leen on 23:51, September 17, 2017 (UTC)


 * I agree. Sick of these monsters that go and murder people and destroy everything that crosses their path. :/ Maria looks to be one of those. I really want a break from these already. Harvey and Irma did enough. Unfortunately, Maria looks like she will be evil and bad like Irma, although she won't get as strong as Irma unless a miracle happens. Behave, Maria. ~  Steve   Talk Page  My Edits  📧  00:12, September 18, 2017 (UTC)


 * You heard 'em,Maria.STAY AWAY FROM LAND.It does bad things for your circulation,leaves you weak and dissipated,and the people whose stuff you throw around are just gonna hate you for it.(80 mph winds now).12.144.5.2 00:15, September 18, 2017 (UTC)

Looks like the islands of Guadeloupe (one of the Caribbean's most populated islands at 405,000) or Dominica (pop. 70,000) are going to take a direct hit from this thing as a Cat 2/3. Not gonna be pretty, lets start the replacement name section. --Whiplash (talk) 00:28, September 18, 2017 (UTC)


 * Lots of convection in the satellite imagery. Maybe will be a Cat 2 by the next advisory? --Whiplash (talk) 01:38, September 18, 2017 (UTC)
 * 11 PM advisory says 85 mph winds...but accompanying forecast says it will peak in 3 days at 140mph while over Puerto Rico,then weaken after that.So PR is in for a direct hit from a Cat 4.12.144.5.2 03:15, September 18, 2017 (UTC)
 * Please don't be Re-Irma. We had enough destruction for the year. Hurricanes, hurricanes, hurricanes!-68.106.0.77 04:01, September 18, 2017 (UTC)
 * Maria is doing well tonight. Statistical intensity tools show high % chance of Rapid Intensification of her ...notable 65-knot increase to Cat 5 (34% chance). Imagine another Category 5 this year - potentially 3 if Jose gets upgraded post-season. HWRF has Maria at 930 mbar in 42 hours. Looks like this will be the first season since 2008 to have more than two retirements. Not out of question we will have four considering how disastrous and active this season has been - and we still have the rest of the month, October, November, and the possibility of an off-season December system. Maria will be another monster that bears watching! Owen 05:24, September 18, 2017 (UTC)

An eye can be seen trying to form on some of the IR loops. I'm not liking the looks of this. Leeboy100 Hoping for recovery. 05:48, September 18, 2017 (UTC)

Also, the new advisory just came out. Winds now at 90 mph, pressure at 977. Leeboy100 Hoping for recovery. 05:52, September 18, 2017 (UTC)

...HURRICANE HUNTER AIRCRAFT REPORTS MARIA INTENSIFYING... ...EXPECTED TO BECOME A MAJOR HURRICANE LATER TODAY...
 * Now a Cat. 2. Intensity at 110 mph/967 mbar. Expected to be a major hurricane later today. Hurricanes, hurricanes, hurricanes!-68.106.0.77 14:28, September 18, 2017 (UTC)

Major Hurricane Maria
Well, its well on track to become a re-Irma. Just exploded to 105 kt. This will be catastrophic for the Lessers. --182.58.123.138 15:07, September 18, 2017 (UTC)
 * Okay, bye Maria. You're out of this list after this year. Anonymous 2.0 (talk) 15:09, September 18, 2017 (UTC)
 * (edit conflict) 105 kts, 959 mbar, forecast peak raised to 130 kts. With Dominica looking like a potential bullseye for Maria on its way into the Caribbean Sea, I can't help but wonder how much Dominica has recovered from TS Erika back in 2015... --Dylan (HurricaneMaker99) 15:11, September 18, 2017 (UTC)
 * Puerto Rico is under the track,but no longer specified in the forecast as where it will be at a particular hour mark.But now Maria's peak is supposed to be over 2 days from now and the track appears to stay at sea east of the northern Bahamas.12.144.5.2 15:52, September 18, 2017 (UTC)

Maria's very dangerous. Had enough of monsters, and she is unfortunately going to be another one of those. The Windward Islands, Lesser Antilles, Leeward Islands and Puerto Rico are bracing for potentially catastrophic damage. This is almost looking like a re-Irma. Like Dylan said, Maria won't help Erika '15 rebuilding efforts in Dominica... Maria could once again setback development there. ~  Steve   Talk Page  My Edits  📧  16:24, September 18, 2017 (UTC)


 * Landslides and flooding being reported on the island of St. Lucia. People trapped. This gonna get ugly she may even be Cat 4 for her first landfall. Looks like that is going to be on Dominica. Martinique and Guadeloupe also likely going to take a major beating as well. --Whiplash (talk) 16:57, September 18, 2017 (UTC)


 * Most recent recon data showing winds just shy of 115 knts. Heading for another pass may very well be a Category 4 by next update. Hasn't made landfall yet either. Category 5 looking more likely by the minute with this thing. --Whiplash (talk) 17:09, September 18, 2017 (UTC)


 * Most recent pass showing winds of 122-127knts. Maria is probably a Category 4 right now and intensifying rapidly. --Whiplash (talk) 17:21, September 18, 2017 (UTC)
 * 2 PM advisory says 125mph and 45 miles from Martinique.Pressure in hurricane continuing to fall,pressure on humans continuing to rise!12.144.5.2 18:24, September 18, 2017 (UTC)

Unfortunately, a Category 5 is now looking likely from this. (feels weird that this is the third time I'm saying that this season.) Also, a little bit of trivia, if Maria does become a Cat 5, it will be the second year in a row where the 'M' named storm was a Category 5. This has happened before, with Isabel in 2003, and then Ivan the next year. I hope this doesn't become a C5, because we've already had Irma, and Jose if he's upgraded in post-season analysis. People in the Lesser Antilles and Puerto Rico should be preparing. Leeboy100 Hoping for recovery. 19:18, September 18, 2017 (UTC)


 * Weird realization just hit me. Jose is Spanish for Joseph and Maria is Spanish for Mary. If they interact will they make hurricane Jesus? --Whiplash (talk) 19:27, September 18, 2017 (UTC)
 * Eh...probs not. But anyways, Maria is rapidly organizing, and she's forecast to hit Puerto Rico as a 150 mph category 4 storm right now, but if Maria intensifies fast enough then it's not impossible at all for Maria to hit category 5 intensity before her landfall in Puerto Rico, which would, if that happens, not only be the second category 5 to hit the island on record after the 1928 hurricane, but it would also make 2017 the second year on record after 2007 to have two category 5 landfalling hurricanes in the Atlantic basin. Ryan1000 20:30, September 18, 2017 (UTC)
 * I Was trying to make a joke. I realize now it isn't funny. I'm sorry... :'( --Whiplash (talk) 20:34, September 18, 2017 (UTC)
 * Jose would have to be retired to give us Hurricane Jesus...but wouldn't that refer to El Nino?12.144.5.2 21:07, September 18, 2017 (UTC)

Anyways, looking at the satellite the cloud temperatures in this thing are extremely concerning (-80C already) this thing it taking the appearance of being at high end Cat 4 or Cat 5 strength already. This is going to be a catastrophe for Dominica and Martinique. --Whiplash (talk) 20:45, September 18, 2017 (UTC)

As I type this, the new advisory has come out, 110 kts, 950 mbars. Maria is now a Category 4. Leeboy100 Hoping for recovery. 20:49, September 18, 2017 (UTC)


 * If we get one more Cat 4+ hurricane this season we will tie 1999 and 2005's records. Quite possible this could happen too. If a single wave gets into the Caribbean we could have another monster after Maria. --Whiplash (talk) 20:51, September 18, 2017 (UTC)

Whiplash, if we do tie the record, I find it ironic that all three of these seasons have used the exact same name list.... Leeboy100 Hoping for recovery. 20:54, September 18, 2017 (UTC)


 * The naming list is cursed, alright. The peak intensity forecast is raised to 155 mph, and a C5 is really possible. This is about to be catastrophic for Puerto Rico and surrounding regions... ~  Steve   Talk Page  My Edits  📧  20:59, September 18, 2017 (UTC)
 * If enough names get retired is it still the same list?...Puerto Rico escaped Irma but Maria seems intent on a direct hit.Forecast says Maria's strength will never recover afterward though.12.144.5.2 21:07, September 18, 2017 (UTC)


 * Uhhh. Satellite images showing Maria might have just activated beast mode look at that pink. --Whiplash (talk) 21:06, September 18, 2017 (UTC)
 * Only previous time I've seen the NHC use the language "the dreaded pinhole eye" was for Wilma...whose winds reached 185mph and whose pressure low is still the Atlantic record.Let's hope Maria leaves those records alone.12.144.5.2 21:09, September 18, 2017 (UTC)
 * Is it just me, or does Maria feel almost like a cross between David and Marilyn? --Dylan (HurricaneMaker99) 21:13, September 18, 2017 (UTC)

Looks like this storm is going to make landfall on the northern part of Dominica in a few hours however the northeastern part of the storm will likely effect Guadeloupe and may pass directly over Basse-Terre the administrative center of the island with a population of 37,000 people. Retirement number 3 confirmed won't even need to hit Puerto Rico with these circumstances. Another catastrophe in the Caribbean unfortunately. :( --Whiplash (talk) 21:23, September 18, 2017 (UTC)

When does it get within radar range of San Juan so we'll get hourly position updates?12.144.5.2 21:35, September 18, 2017 (UTC)

Looking at the IR loops, Maria already looks like a Category 5. This is bad. Leeboy100 Hoping for recovery. 21:56, September 18, 2017 (UTC)

Also, just a reminder of how fast Maria has intensified. At the 5 AM advisory this morning, Maria was only a Category 1 with winds of 90 mph, at the 5 PM advisory it was a Category 4 with winds of 130 mph. That's a 40 mph increase in 12 hours. In that same 12 hour period the pressure dropped 27 mbars.... Leeboy100 Hoping for recovery. 22:03, September 18, 2017 (UTC)


 * Maria is developing a pinhole eye and is intensifying extremely fast, Dominica is staring at a monster landfall right now and Maria could be the worst storm to hit the island since David. NHC's forecast now brings Maria up to 155 mph before hitting Puerto Rico, but cat 5 is very possible with this. Hopefully Maria spares the U.S. east coast after this, because after the carnage wrought by Irma barely two weeks ago, this is bad enough. Ryan1000 22:27, September 18, 2017 (UTC)
 * The 6 PM  position update (35 miles from Dominica and 35 miles from Martinique) courtesy of radar on Martinique indicates winds and pressure are unchanged from 5PM...so intensification may be levelling off.NHC tracks don't have it near the USA mainland,does anyone?12.144.5.2 22:47, September 18, 2017 (UTC)
 * The 6 PM is just position not intensity. Next intensity update for another hour. They have recon going in right now. I will absolutely not be surprised to see Maria now being a Cat 5. --Whiplash (talk) 23:05, September 18, 2017 (UTC)
 * Intensity adjustments can be made on position updates; Harvey last month was upgraded to Category 4 status on a position update. My suspicion is they're waiting for recon to come back with data before updating the intensity. --Dylan (HurricaneMaker99) 23:09, September 18, 2017 (UTC)
 * The good news if any from this situation is that since Maria's circulation is so small and Dominica has quite high elevation even any interaction with that island might cause some noticeable weakening in Maria. --Whiplash (talk) 23:16, September 18, 2017 (UTC)
 * The 7 PM position update continued to have winds and pressure unchanged from 5 PM.12.144.5.2 23:21, September 18, 2017 (UTC)

What worries me about Maria more than anything is what it could do to Dominica. It was 2 years ago where Dominica was devastated by Erika, which was a tropical storm. Erika was considered the worst storm in Dominican history. If they suffer that much from a tropical storm, I don't even want to know what a direct hit from a Category 4 would do. Unfortunately we're about to find out, as Maria inches closer and closer to the island. Leeboy100 Beware Maria's Fury. 23:26, September 18, 2017 (UTC)


 * 6 minutes until recon data this is big then we will get to see how strong she really is. --Whiplash (talk) 23:32, September 18, 2017 (UTC)

Preliminary report says that hurricane hunters have found winds of 160 mph in the Northeast quadrant of the eyewall. Leeboy100 Beware Maria's Fury. 23:39, September 18, 2017 (UTC)

Category 5 Hurricane Maria
926mbar with 160mph winds according to recon. R.I.P. Dominica. Reports coming in from radio that structures are already being destroyed on the island. Catastrophe is imminent. --Whiplash (talk) 23:35, September 18, 2017 (UTC)


 * Also should mention this from the NORTHWEST part of the storm not the northeast. Seeing some readings with 152knts. Pardon my French but what the f**k... --Whiplash (talk) 23:44, September 18, 2017 (UTC)
 * Sigh, RIP Dominica. Maria is a monstrous hurricane that will strike Dominica and Puerto Rico. Not yet confirmed by NHC as a 5, but either away, this is going to be a disastrous hurricane.  Hurricanes, hurricanes, hurricanes! -68.106.0.77 23:48, September 18, 2017 (UTC)

Now confirmed. RIP Dominica. This is so f***ing scary. Leeboy100 Beware Maria's Fury. 23:49, September 18, 2017 (UTC)


 * Lord mercy, we officially now have another Category 5 hurricane that is really wreaking Dominica. This is going to be a freaking devastating hurricane season. Hurricanes, hurricanes, hurricanes! -68.106.0.77 23:57, September 18, 2017 (UTC)


 * This is awful. I thought David and Erika were bad, but I can't even imagine what this will do to Dominica. I think it is safe to say that the "M" curse has just begun. Beware the 13th named storm... T  G  2 0 1 7 23:59, September 18, 2017 (UTC)
 * 7:45PM update from NHC had Maria's pressure at 929mb rather than 926,so has a corner turned against further intensification?...Maria has obviously blown off our entreaties to leave people alone.12.144.5.2 00:03, September 19, 2017 (UTC)
 * Nope, forecast/advisory just released has the pressure at 925 mbar. Keep the folks in Dominica in your thoughts... --Dylan (HurricaneMaker99) 00:05, September 19, 2017 (UTC)
 * "additional strengthening possible tonight",too.:(12.144.5.2 00:06, September 19, 2017 (UTC)
 * 925 mbars, not 926. But still, this is now the first year since 2007 to not only feature two category 5 hurricanes, but two category 5's to make landfall at category 5 strength, assuming Maria hits Dominica at this intensity and later Puerto Rico. With winds this strong, Maria may even be worse for Dominica than 150 mph David was in August 1979. Pray that they'll make it out safe... Ryan1000 00:20, September 19, 2017 (UTC)\

Maria has broken a record involving the naming lists. The list that has had the most Category 5s is List II. Allen, Andrew Mitch, Ivan, and Matthew, all became Category 5s. However, Maria is now the 6th Category 5 seen on List III. Also, all the Category 5s on this list have happened in only 2 different seasons, with 4 being in 2005, and now 2 this year. Also, Jose could get upgraded in post-season analysis as well. Leeboy100 Beware Maria's Fury. 00:34, September 19, 2017 (UTC)


 * The lesson is don't mess with the ladies of List III and the gentlemen of List II! --Whiplash (talk) 00:37, September 19, 2017 (UTC)
 * ...EYEWALL OF CATEGORY 5 HURRICANE MARIA MOVING ONSHORE OVER DOMINICA...it's hard to believe that we were only tracking a category 1 storm at this time yesterday and now Maria's a cat 5. Maria really caught us (and Dominica) by surprise, and due to her explosive deepening right before landfall, preparations had to be rushed to completion in a matter of hours on the island. Hopefully loss of life isn't as bad as damage could be. Ryan1000 01:04, September 19, 2017 (UTC)

Landfall on Dominica
Satellite imagery showing Western eye-wall beginning to move over Dominica. Looks like will be making more southerly landfall on the island that earlier though good news for Guadeloupe which may avoid the worst winds by Dominica is now going to face hell. Does anyone know if Dominica has ever had a Category 5 make landfall on it? --Whiplash (talk) 00:21, September 19, 2017 (UTC)
 * I do, and the answer is "no". I think David's 130-kt landfall was previously the strongest. --Dylan (HurricaneMaker99) 00:36, September 19, 2017 (UTC)


 * Pardon the question Klotzbach just posted on his Twitter that this will be Dominica's first Category 5. Any wobble of this storm north could be the difference between widespread and catastrophic damage to Guadeloupe as it really isn't that big of a storm about the size of the island of Dominica which apparently it is making landfall in the middle of. --Whiplash (talk) 00:36, September 19, 2017 (UTC)


 * I believe David made landfall on Dominica as a Category 5. I'm not sure though, I'll have to go back and check. This is an extremely rare event though. Leeboy100 Beware Maria's Fury. 00:37, September 19, 2017 (UTC)


 * Just went back and checked. David was a Category 4 at landfall. So, this is indeed the first time this has ever happened. Leeboy100 Beware Maria's Fury. 00:40, September 19, 2017 (UTC)
 * Lord have mercy. Maria is actually 12 mbar from eclisping Irma as the strongest hurricane of the season pressure-wise. Owen 00:54, September 19, 2017 (UTC)
 * 9PM position update 5 miles from Dominica and pressure at 924mb.12.144.5.2 01:00, September 19, 2017 (UTC)


 * Has it been mentioned here that the novel "The Storm" and its descendant the "Paint Your Wagon" song "They Call the Wind Maria" (with Maria pronounced funny at the author's direction) is a key inspiration for the whole practice of hanging personal names on storms?12.144.5.2 01:34, September 19, 2017 (UTC)
 * The first hurricane ever to hit Dominica as a Category 5, Maria is not done yet. Hurricanes, hurricanes, hurricanes!-68.106.0.77 01:39, September 19, 2017 (UTC)


 * According to reports the roof of the Prime Minister's residence (of Dominica) has been ripped off. --Whiplash (talk) 01:37, September 19, 2017 (UTC)


 * This is one of the worst hurricane seasons I've ever seen. First, a Category 4 that parks itself off of texas for over half a week, dumping 50 inches of rain, forcing me to be displaced. Next, a 185 mph Category 5 that stayed 185 mph for a day, destroying every square inch of land in it's path, and, in one place, causing the ocean to recede as far as the human eye can see. Now, a second Category 5 over Dominica, and threatening other Caribbean islands, including Puerto Rico. Wow. Stay safe! PS: Flooding from Harvey was the reason why I haven't said anything in a while. Sincerely, IbAHAn1829, and stay safe! \(:-D)Chat/Ta ta! 01:39, September 19, 2017 (UTC)


 * Also having some people saying that Q95 FM the radio station on Dominica suggested that residents should open up windows of their houses to equalize pressure and prevent their roofs from coming off. Wtf, that will really get people's roofs blown off. --Whiplash (talk) 01:41, September 19, 2017 (UTC)
 * Ikr, I had enough of destruction for the year. This is going to be as worst as 2005.  I hope that 2018 will not be as worst as this year.  Hurricanes, hurricanes, hurricanes! - 68.106.0.77 01:47, September 19, 2017 (UTC)
 * Forecast peak 165mph but expected to steadily weaken after the 24 hour mark.12.144.5.2 02:55, September 19, 2017 (UTC)
 * Now the 11PM advisory removes that 165mph peak and lowers the 5-day to 115 mph.12.144.5.2 02:58, September 19, 2017 (UTC)

And The Guardian says that NHC has observed a pinhole eye developing... this is going to be worse than Irma... Anonymous 2.0 (talk) 02:58, September 19, 2017 (UTC)


 * FUU**... This is a really catastrophic monster. Dominica is getting demolished by Maria as we speak. I didn't expect it would reach C5 strength this soon! The Leeward Islands and Puerto Rico are also going to get pounded by this cataclysmic beast. And to think about how Erika (a tropical storm) did to Dominica, a C5 striking is likely going to be  MUCH WORSE . 2017 has been a really catastrophic year for Atlantic hurricanes. First Harvey, then Irma, and now this... ~  Steve   Talk Page  My Edits  📧  03:34, September 19, 2017 (UTC)


 * Satellite is showing the eye is moving off of Dominica this is good news from them and soon the worst will be over. However, the satellite is also showing a rather sharp northwest wobble which could bring the eyewall dangerously close to the southern parts of Guadeloupe. This could send major storm surge into the southern part of that island particularly into the city of Basse-Terre as it passes. Once it moves away from these two islands there should not be any more immediate threats until it begins to approach St. Croix and Puerto Rico on Wed. I'm pretty sure though after the damage is revealed on Dominica and Guadeloupe Maria is good as gone at the next WMO meeting. --Whiplash (talk) 03:51, September 19, 2017 (UTC)


 * As I mentioned earlier I felt that Dominica might knock some of the snot out of this storm. Latest recon suggesting storm has weakened by 15mph with wind and pressure risen by nearly 20mb. Should be a Cat 4 on next advisory. Hopefully this land interaction screws with the structure like Cuba did to Irma though Maria has way more time than Irma to re-intensify and lost a lot less strength. --Whiplash (talk) 04:11, September 19, 2017 (UTC)

According to the Guardian the Prime Minister of Dominica has been reported saying this in an interview to TeleSur:

"Please tell the world that Dominica has been devastated … In the morning we will know how many dead there are … We were brutally hit."

Scary. --Whiplash (talk) 04:49, September 19, 2017 (UTC)

Holy shit. I don't like the sound of that. Also, unfortunately, I don't think that Irma Maria will lose very much strength over Dominica. Yes it's mountainous, but Maria wasn't over it for long. However, I won't be surprised if an ERC starts to take place due to how tiny the eye is. I just hope it doesn't continue to explode. Leeboy100 Beware Maria's Fury. 04:54, September 19, 2017 (UTC) (You know there's been a lot of big hurricanes in a short amount of time when I start confusing hurricanes with each other.)


 * New 0Hr models are out. Both GFS and CMC show Maria curving away from Eastern United States and then into Atlantic Canada as a still fairly significant storm. Plz no Maria I don't want to meet youuuuuuuuuuuu... --Whiplash (talk) 05:10, September 19, 2017 (UTC)


 * The "pinhole eye" language was a couple of advisories ago,before it reached Cat 5.The NHC forecast show only weakening from the current strength,no intensification.12.144.5.2 05:15, September 19, 2017 (UTC)


 * The NHC is wrong then as Maria has already started to re-intensify since leaving Dominica. --Whiplash (talk) 05:18, September 19, 2017 (UTC)

(Edit conflict) By the way, I just cannot believe how this season immediately took a turn for the worst when Harvey started to explode. I still remember how it was almost just a year ago, we were on here discussing Matthew becoming the first Atlantic C5 in almost a decade. Maria is now the third in just a 2-year span, maybe even the fourth C5 in that span considering the fact that Jose could get upgraded. Also, knowing how crazy this season has been, we could see another C5 in October, hopefully not another Mitch or Wilma, though. This whole season has just become unbelievable. This season is kind of like 2005 in terms of how unbelievable and destructive it's been, though not in terms of activity. I don't think we'll tie or surpass 2005's activity, but what do I know? I've eaten my words several times this season already. Leeboy100 Beware Maria's Fury. 05:22, September 19, 2017 (UTC)


 * Sigh, Dominica is devastated within this hurricane. Hurricanes, hurricanes, hurricanes! -68.106.0.77 05:30, September 19, 2017 (UTC)


 * Media coming out of Guadeloupe also now getting pretty scary as well. See: --Whiplash (talk) 05:35, September 19, 2017 (UTC)

Major Hurricane Maria (2nd time)
Down to 155mph and 942mb as of the 2am advisory. Will re-intensify however does look Dominica put up a good fight and tried to knock at least some of the stuffing out of this beeeeeeeeaaaatch. --Whiplash (talk) 05:41, September 19, 2017 (UTC)


 * Maria has only slightly slipped in intensity, the forecast brings Maria back up to cat 5 soon but weakens it to cat 4 before hitting Puerto Rico. Hopefully that's the case, because Dominica got destroyed by this hurricane, and a cat 5 in Puerto Rico is the last thing we need to see. Ryan1000 08:17, September 19, 2017 (UTC)

New advisory. Winds still 135 kts, but the pressure has dropped 8 millibars to 934. Leeboy100 Beware Maria's Fury. 08:54, September 19, 2017 (UTC)

Category 5 Hurricane Maria (2nd time)
Ummm, okay. 5:10 AM advisory. Back to a Category 5, which is not surprising. What is surprising is the timing of the advisory though. Leeboy100 Beware Maria's Fury. 09:08, September 19, 2017 (UTC)

8AM advisory has winds steady and pressure slightly back up.Forecast wind speed,as since they stopped forecasting a 165mph peak,goes only down from 160 (Puerto Rico now set for 145) and is down to 115 by the 5-day mark.12.144.5.2 13:28, September 19, 2017 (UTC)


 * Maria such an impressive looking storm on satellite. See some models moving her slightly to the east of Puerto Rico and smacking St. Croix and the Virgin Islands head on instead. While this is exactly what the VI do not need right now they do have a lower population than Puerto Rico. --Whiplash (talk) 14:19, September 19, 2017 (UTC)

...POTENTIALLY CATASTROPHIC HURRICANE MARIA HEADED FOR THE VIRGIN ISLANDS AND PUERTO RICO...
 * Be prepared Puerto Rico! Because, a Category 5 hurricane is on its way of making landfall there. Hurricanes, hurricanes, hurricanes!-68.106.0.77 14:28, September 19, 2017 (UTC)
 * Pressure down slightly at 11 AM,but the 5 day wind forecast is down to 110 mph as the track pulls it far from land.12.144.5.2 15:09, September 19, 2017 (UTC)
 * At 2 PM,winds and pressure unchanged from 11 AM...110 miles from St. Croix.12.144.5.2 18:01, September 19, 2017 (UTC)

Maria's outer rainbands are beginning to affect Puerto Rico and the British Virgin Islands as we speak. The regions are set to receive catastrophic impacts hot on the heels of Irma just a couple weeks ago. Puerto Rico was largely spared from Irma - but certainly won't be spared from Maria. This is a catastrophic event unfolding for Puerto Rico. Dominica has already seen the brunt of the storm and the Prime Minister said that it caused "mind boggling" damage and the island experienced "widespread devastation", and his own house had its roof blown off. This is probably certain to be worse than Erika. Roosevelt Skerrit, the prime minister, has made several Facebook posts about the storm, including a long post that explains the devastation. Pray for Dominica and other Caribbean islands in its path... ~  Steve   Talk Page  My Edits  📧  18:11, September 19, 2017 (UTC)


 * Update has Maria at 165 mph/920 mb now. Kiewii 18:19, September 19, 2017 (UTC)
 * Maria is now 6 mbar from tying Irma, or 7 mbar away from stealing Irma's spot as the most powerful hurricane of the season (pressure-wise).  Owen 18:25, September 19, 2017 (UTC)
 * There'd be something seriously wrong with the Saffir-Simpson Scale if a Category 5 were not more damaging than a tropical storm.
 * Maria...nobody's gonna love you for being a blowhard.You're looking at forced retirement.12.144.5.2 18:52, September 19, 2017 (UTC)
 * At 3PM,winds and pressure steady from the 2:15 special,and 100 miles from St. Croix.12.144.5.2 19:03, September 19, 2017 (UTC)
 * 5 PM advisory is out, 165 mph and 916 mbars. Maria is now only 3 mbars away from beating Irma as the strongest storm of the season by pressure. Ryan1000 20:59, September 19, 2017 (UTC)
 * 80 miles from St. Croix.Hints of eyewall replacement but winds forecast to hold steady for 12 hours.
 * Maria,the less pressure you try to put on people the more stressed they'll get.Humans and hurricanes just weren't made to be neighbors.12.144.5.2 21:08, September 19, 2017 (UTC)

Maria is kind of reminding me of Ivan. The winds are only 165 mph, despite the pressure being very low. Ivan was a similar case, it had winds of 165 as well, and a pressure of 910. Leeboy100 Beware Maria's Fury. 21:35, September 19, 2017 (UTC)

6 PM update has pressure down to 913mb (26.96inHg).12.144.5.2 22:06, September 19, 2017 (UTC)


 * Maria just overtook Irma as the strongest of the season by pressure. Wow. Owen 22:14, September 19, 2017 (UTC)


 * Yep, you beat me to it Owen. Hard to believe that we now have a storm stronger than Irma by pressure. Leeboy100 Beware Maria's Fury. 22:17, September 19, 2017 (UTC)

Pressure now 909. Holy shit, that puts in into the list of the top 10 most intense Atlantic hurricanes. Winds also now 175. Leeboy100 Beware Maria's Fury. 23:01, September 19, 2017 (UTC)

Maria just keeps blowing off our advice to calm down.12.144.5.2 23:03, September 19, 2017 (UTC)

I looked up the list. Maria is the 10th most intense Atlantic Hurricane on record. It took the spot from Ivan, and the 1924 Cuba Hurricane, both of which peaked with pressures of 910, and knocking them off the list completely. This is getting worse and worse. Leeboy100 Beware Maria's Fury. 23:07, September 19, 2017 (UTC)


 * Maria might make a run for 185 mph before this is all said and done. I'm shocked she was able to deepen this much. Can't rule out seeing our first sub 900 mbar system since 2005! Owen 23:54, September 19, 2017 (UTC)
 * 8 PM advisory reports no change in wind or pressure from 7PM...maybe the eyewall replacement is taking hold.12.144.5.2 00:00, September 20, 2017 (UTC)


 * One dropsonde has record surface level winds of 168knts... (193 mph) at surface level... --Whiplash (talk) 00:17, September 20, 2017 (UTC)
 * 921mb (27.20 inHg) Surface (Sea Level) 25.6°C (78.1°F) 24.8°C (77°F) 315° (from the NW) 168 knots (193 mph)


 * You beat me to it, Whiplash. Owen 00:20, September 20, 2017 (UTC)


 * The potentially dangerous hurricane is nearing Puerto Rico. Preparations are already underway in that area.  Hurricanes, hurricanes, hurricanes! -68.106.0.77 00:49, September 20, 2017 (UTC)
 * The 9PM update has Maria 50 miles from St. Croix...with 175 mph winds and 909mb pressure unchanged for the past two hours.Looks like no more intensification.12.144.5.2 01:04, September 20, 2017 (UTC)
 * At 10 PM still no change in wind or pressure,40 miles from St. Croix.It looks like it's a peak intensity plateau.12.144.5.2 02:02, September 20, 2017 (UTC)


 * While she has plateaued the 175 mph winds are an underestimate the NHC is not updating until the next recon flight goes in. However measurements from the radar of Puerto Rico is already detecting 180mph winds around the eye. Likely it has weakened a bit as it very likely had 190mph wins shortly ago. --Whiplash (talk) 02:13, September 20, 2017 (UTC)
 * The 11 PM advisory has the same wind speeds it's been credited with since 7PM...same pressure too...and the discussion indicates the eyewall replacement they saw starting at 5PM is now well underway.The forecast is nonstop weakening getting down to Cat 2 (105mph) by the 5-day mark.12.144.5.2 03:14, September 20, 2017 (UTC)

...1200 AM AST POSITION AND INTENSITY UPDATE... ...SUSTAINED HURRICANE-FORCE WINDS REPORTED ON ST. CROIX...
 * The midnight advisory has the winds the same but pressure 1 more down to 908 mb. St. Croix recently reported 74 mph+ winds. Hurricanes, hurricanes, hurricanes! -68.106.0.77 04:09, September 20, 2017 (UTC)
 * Who asked Maria to drop that millibar?...just her way of cozying up to Mitch & Dean on the all-time charts.12.144.5.2 04:13, September 20, 2017 (UTC)


 * More bad news with this storm. The GFS model is now steering the storm ever closer to an east coast landfall some of the models are now picking up on a stronger ridge to the North and East of the storm and a weaker Jose. Even if she doesn't make landfall on the U.S. East Coast (likely as a Cat 2 or 3 in this scenario) anywhere from North Caroline to New York. Personally I think Jose's influence will be weaker than the models and she will make landfall in the Norfolk, Virginia area. This is what I've been feeling about her since the start. --Whiplash (talk) 04:16, September 20, 2017 (UTC)


 * Also Maria is now blitzing St. Croix with Category 3 winds sustained around 115mph. Luckily they shouldn't get much stronger for them but this will still be destructive on that island... but Puerto Rico looks like its gonna get the real deal here. --Whiplash (talk) 04:20, September 20, 2017 (UTC)

Just heard a report that Maria has wobbled northward enough towards St. Croix that the southwestern extreme of the island should now be experiencing sustained winds of 165mph. RIP. --Whiplash (talk) 04:58, September 20, 2017 (UTC)


 * New advisory is out gone to 910mbar no change in winds. Appears full on ERC is underway. Not sure if that is good or bad in this case tbh as it is expanding her wind field. --Whiplash (talk) 05:03, September 20, 2017 (UTC)

1 AM update says "OUTER EYEWALL LASHING ST. CROIX" but the pressure has eased up to 910mb.The weakening may have started at last.12.144.5.2 05:04, September 20, 2017 (UTC)


 * Some people smarter than myself are saying that the ERC Maria is undergoing now may cause a demotion to a Cat 4, even though with pressure remaining around 910. This would make it the lowest pressure Cat 4 ever I believe surpassing Opal if this turns out to be the case? --Whiplash (talk) 05:25, September 20, 2017 (UTC)
 * The hurricane is weakening, hopefully. It will strike Puerto Rico as a strong Category 4 or Cat. 5. Hurricanes, hurricanes, hurricanes! -68.106.0.77 05:36, September 20, 2017 (UTC)

Still a Category 5. Winds have come down, though. 165 mph/ 910 mbars. Leeboy100 Beware Maria's Fury. 05:58, September 20, 2017 (UTC)


 * Hopefully she does not get a chance to complete her ERC before landfall last thing we need is both a larger wind radius AND higher winds. Anyways this is probably my last post for the night won't be on again til she probably makes landfall. Ciao for now. --Whiplash (talk) 05:59, September 20, 2017 (UTC)
 * 3 AM:160 mph winds,913 mbar,70 miles from San Juan (some of that distance over land).Hurricane conditions in St. Croix and tropical storm conditions already in parts of Puerto Rico.12.144.5.2 07:19, September 20, 2017 (UTC)

Major Hurricane Maria (3rd time)
Whiplash, Opal had the lowest pressure of any Atlantic category 4 that didn't reach category 5 strength. Since Maria did become a category 5, it wouldn't be surprising to see Maria's pressure be slightly lower than Opal's just before or after it hits Puerto Rico. There were quite a few Atlantic hurricanes that had lower pressures during their weakening stages, and Maria is no exception. The lowest pressure from any category 4 storm in the Atlantic (including those that were cat 5's beforehand) was Wilma; in the best track, Wilma's pressure was 894 mbars as a 155 mph cat 4 just after she weakened from her record-peak intensity. Anyways, it looks like St. Croix got the northern eyewall of Maria, so they probably took a beating from the storm, maybe not as bad as Hugo did in 1989 but still very bad nonetheless. Puerto Rico will probably be hit this afternoon. As I type this, Maria has now weakened to a 155 mph, 917 mbar cat 4 just before landfall but that would still make it one of only 4 cat 4's to hit the island, along with the 1932, 1899, and 1928 hurricanes, the last of which was the only cat 5 to strike the island. Ryan1000 09:04, September 20, 2017 (UTC)


 * Interesting thanks for the info. Anyways looks like Maria has made landfall. --Whiplash (talk) 10:28, September 20, 2017 (UTC)

Landfall on Puerto Rico
It's happening. San Juan weather station has been taken out. Looks like this is going to be a catastrophe. --Whiplash (talk) 10:28, September 20, 2017 (UTC)
 * Well... at least Maria had the courtesy to weaken a bit before landfall... better 135 kts than 150, I guess? --Dylan (HurricaneMaker99) 10:36, September 20, 2017 (UTC)
 * Update statement just released. Landfall near Yabucoa around 6:15am AST (10:15 UTC). Striking Puerto Rico with a pressure of 917 mbar, I'm curious about where this places Maria on the list of most intense Atlantic landfalls... --Dylan (HurricaneMaker99) 10:39, September 20, 2017 (UTC)
 * According to this, if Maria's landfall pressure of 917 mbar is verified in the best track, then it would rank Maria as the 8th most intense Atlantic hurricane at landfall. --Dylan (HurricaneMaker99) 10:43, September 20, 2017 (UTC)
 * 10 AM position update makes Maria over Northern Puerto Rico. It should get out to sea any minute now. Hurricanes, hurricanes, hurricanes!-68.106.0.77 14:25, September 20, 2017 (UTC)
 * 11 AM advisory says not quite out to sea yet,140mph/930mb,now a forecast of 48 hours as cat 4 no more than 145mph and then down to 105 by the end of forecast period.12.144.5.2 15:05, September 20, 2017 (UTC)
 * This is a really worrying storm that could be a catastrophic hurricane for Puerto Rico. Maria's the strongest hurricane since 1928 to make landfall there. I hope those riding out the storm stay safe and protected. At least 2,000 of those in Puerto Rico have sought shelter. Hopefully there are no deaths in the area, but that is probably going to be hard to achieve due to Maria's sheer force. ~  Steve   Talk Page  My Edits  📧  16:34, September 20, 2017 (UTC)
 * I am happy to report that Puerto Rico did a number on Maria. 2pm intermediate advisory drops the winds all the way down to 100 kts, and raises the pressure to 961 mbar. Here's hoping that more weakening shall follow. --Dylan (HurricaneMaker99) 18:05, September 20, 2017 (UTC)
 * Maria's eye seems to have appeared again on sattelite imagery, and has organized a bit more since she left PR recently, so Maria may crank up intensity one last time before she weakens for good passing parallel and then likely away from the U.S. east coast down the road. Also Dylan, with Maria being on that list, 2017 is now the only Atlantic hurricane season on record to have two of the top 10 most intense landfalling Atlantic hurricanes. Ryan1000 19:53, September 20, 2017 (UTC)

So now that Maria is offshore we should start looking at potential impacts from the rains in Hispanola. Hopefully nothing to drastic although I'm watching the models move her ever so slightly more west-ward. Wondering if we could see a North Carolina landfall. --Whiplash (talk) 20:26, September 20, 2017 (UTC)

Hurricane Maria (2nd time)
Maria has dropped below major hurricane status. 110 mph/957 mbars. Leeboy100 Beware Maria's Fury. 20:44, September 20, 2017 (UTC)

Oh, and Whiplash, this response is pretty late, but the lowest pressure from a Category 4, that later became a Category 5, was Wilma. The advisory before it was upgraded to a C5 had it as a C4 with a pressure of 901 millibars. Leeboy100 Beware Maria's Fury. 20:48, September 20, 2017 (UTC)

Also, I'm hearing that 100% of Puerto Rico is without power. Leeboy100 Beware Maria's Fury. 20:50, September 20, 2017 (UTC)


 * I mentioned before that Wilma had 894 mbars in pressure as a high-end cat 4 just after it weakened from a cat 5, but it's a record either way. Maria is starting to expand in size as well, she could intensify to a major again as she heads northwest, but the late-end of the forecast track shows an eastward trend, hopefully it continues to trend east down the road. Ryan1000 21:10, September 20, 2017 (UTC)


 * Yep. I noticed your post right after I posted mine. Leeboy100 Beware Maria's Fury. 21:27, September 20, 2017 (UTC)
 * Maria weakens again, but expected to be a major as it gets closer to the Bahamas, and then weaken back below major. 9 deaths so far from this hurricane. Hurricanes, hurricanes, hurricanes!-68.106.0.77 22:37, September 20, 2017 (UTC)
 * 7 of these deaths were from Dominica, an island which has been utterly devastated by Maria. The other 2 is from Guadeloupe; one is from fallen vegetation and the other person was swept out to sea. So far, it seems like there has been no major loss of life in Puerto Rico (and I hope it stays that way). However, power was knocked out to all customers in Puerto Rico which means the whole country is in the dark. :( ~  Steve   Talk Page  My Edits  📧  04:32, September 21, 2017 (UTC)
 * RIP Puerto Rico. Anyways, damage from Maria so far is >$30 billion making the total damage of this season >$162.9 billion. That would surpass 2005's damages by >$4 billion. But the damage totals are unoffical. Hurricanes, hurricanes, hurricanes!-68.106.0.77 04:38, September 21, 2017 (UTC)
 * And that's only for the Caribbean (Dominica, Puerto Rico, etc). :O Looks like we unofficially have the most devastating Atlantic season ever recorded... ~  Steve   Talk Page  My Edits  📧  05:05, September 21, 2017 (UTC)
 * In terms of damage. Not in lives though. (Thankfully) --Whiplash (talk) 05:35, September 21, 2017 (UTC)

Just wanted to bring something to everyone's attention. Not sure if it is a legit reading or not but there is a gauge on the Rio de la Plata river at the town of Comerio which is showing the river is 62ft ABOVE  flood stage. I hope this is a malfunction or this could be a major loss of life I don't see any word from the area to know what is going on here. --Whiplash (talk) 05:40, September 21, 2017 (UTC)

Major Hurricane Maria (4th time)
959mb. 115 mph. Not sure what to say this is kind of expected? Mostly interested in the track right now. --Whiplash (talk) 06:11, September 21, 2017 (UTC)


 * Both the GFS and the Euro models still take it out to sea, though they do take Maria making a slight jog west after Jose dissipates before going east, so it could bring heavy surf to the east coast, though a landfall is looking less and less likely. Ryan1000 06:24, September 21, 2017 (UTC)
 * Maria!
 * I've just met a 'cane named Maria!
 * And suddenly that name
 * will not be used again...
 * (from EAST COAST STORY)--12.144.5.2 06:40, September 21, 2017 (UTC)
 * I don't want to believe that $30 billion damage estimate (which, as far as I am aware, doesn't even include Dominica). Surely Maria couldn't have dealt that much damage to Puerto Rico and the USVI, right? :( --Dylan (HurricaneMaker99) 10:31, September 21, 2017 (UTC)
 * I'm agreeing with you Dylan. $30 billion will put that as the most costliest season ever. Hurricanes, hurricanes, hurricanes!-68.106.0.77 14:27, September 21, 2017 (UTC)
 * With headlines saying the WHOLE Puerto Rico electrical grid was knocked out,the consequences will be dire.Probably won't be much more damage from Maria now,though,track heads out to sea.12.144.5.2 18:12, September 21, 2017 (UTC)
 * Still...no trace of an "N" storm,and at this time in 2005 the "R" storm was already a hurricane.12.144.5.2 21:30, September 21, 2017 (UTC)
 * Nor do we need any trace of an "N" storm unless it's going to be a fishspinner tbh. --Dylan (HurricaneMaker99) 23:45, September 21, 2017 (UTC)
 * The world would be a different place if the winds and waves of the tropics were willing to honor requests to limit themselves to fishspinning!...Maria's at 125mph winds and 65 miles from Grand Turk.12.144.5.2 02:56, September 22, 2017 (UTC)

Models been steadily moving this thing West all day. I'm pretty sure it will have some impact on the Carolina coast. --Whiplash (talk) 02:55, September 22, 2017 (UTC)


 * Maria is approaching the Turks and Caicos Islands, but is not rushing. Hurricanes, hurricanes, hurricanes!-68.106.0.77 05:42, September 22, 2017 (UTC)
 * 45 miles from Grand Turk,going at 7 mph...the 2AM track map has it curved toward the east as it passes the Carolinas.12.144.5.2 06:00, September 22, 2017 (UTC)

Maria's just under Category 4 status, but it's probably going to weaken from here out due to shear. ~ KN2731 {talk} 09:58, September 22, 2017 (UTC)


 * Maria is to the North of Turks and Caicos. Hurricanes, hurricanes, hurricanes! -68.106.0.77 14:26, September 22, 2017 (UTC)
 * 8 PM advisory had pressure lower again,winds still 125 mph.12.144.5.2 01:17, September 23, 2017 (UTC)


 * The late-period track of Maria brings her doing a zigzag direction near the coastline as the ridge builds back in slightly as Jose moves out, but it's likely another trough will come in after that and recurve Maria out to sea before hitting the U.S. east coast, as both the GFS and Euro have indicated in most of their recent runs. We can't rule out some possible surf impacts on the coastline, but hopefully the mainland U.S. doesn't get a landfall from Maria, Dominica and Puerto Rico were hit badly enough as it is. Ryan1000 02:11, September 23, 2017 (UTC)
 * 2AM has Maria's pressure the lowest it's been in days,winds still 125mph.12.144.5.2 06:18, September 23, 2017 (UTC)


 * Winds down to 100 knots but pressure is still 952 mb. Unfortunately for North Carolina, the forecast track continues to shift westwards. ~ KN2731 {talk} 14:59, September 23, 2017 (UTC)
 * No Maria, you had enough destruction for your lifespan. Don't you dare hit North Carolina or else I'll get mad at you for hitting that state. I'm hoping for you to move away. Hurricanes, hurricanes, hurricanes! -68.106.0.77 15:59, September 23, 2017 (UTC)


 * It better not hit NC. We've had more than enough devastation and we're honestly fed up of it. NHC forecast still has it passing offshore - let's all hope that's the case. ~  Steve   Talk Page  My Edits  📧  17:51, September 23, 2017 (UTC)

Landfall from this on North Carolina/Virginia as a Cat 1/2 looking increasingly likely. This shouldn't be a huge deal by any stretch but will result in more power outages and flooding potentially. City of Norfolk should pay particularly close attention. --Whiplash (talk) 20:49, September 23, 2017 (UTC)

NHC says Maria's pressure is down again but predicts a sharp turn away from the Carolina coast on Wednesday.12.144.5.2 21:29, September 23, 2017 (UTC)


 * Phew, now that's a relief. Maria, stay off to sea and don't make landfall, okay? Hurricanes, hurricanes, hurricanes!-68.106.0.77 01:11, September 24, 2017 (UTC)
 * Winds are not increasing,but pressure keeps decreasing (under 28 inches now).12.144.5.2 03:39, September 24, 2017 (UTC)
 * I think it could have a chance to reintensify to 120 mph before the weakening process is expected to begin by Monday. It is looking better organized (the discussion is saying positive things like the cloud pattern getting more organized, etc), and (like you said) it is getting lower in pressure - so I see no reason why Maria can't reintensify a little more. Thankfully, a turn away from North Carolina is forecasted, however direct impacts are still possible on the coastlines. Maria will still cause heavy surf and rip currents, though. ~ <font face="Impact"> Steve   Talk Page  My Edits  📧  04:58, September 24, 2017 (UTC)
 * Yeah, a trough will likely recurve Maria to the east as it approaches North Carolina, although the Bermuda High will keep Maria heading north or north-northwest until around the time when Maria reaches the outer banks. The track has been shifting slightly westward, however, and the latest few runs of the GFS do show a jog far enough west to Maria reaching a brief landfall on the NC outer banks before turning sharply east and out to sea. We'll see, hopefully it remains at sea though. Ryan1000 06:08, September 24, 2017 (UTC)

Hurricane Maria (3rd time)
Latest advisory downs Maria's intensity to 110 mph and 948 mbars, but she still poses a surf threat to the east coast. Ryan1000 09:39, September 24, 2017 (UTC)


 * According to Philip Klotzbach, thanks to Harvey, Irma, Jose, and Maria, this season has already generated more major hurricane days than the whole of 2005. ~ KN2731 {talk} 09:44, September 24, 2017 (UTC)
 * I didn't know that until now. Anyway, rip currents are possible in the east coast. Hurricanes, hurricanes, hurricanes! -68.106.0.77 16:24, September 24, 2017 (UTC)


 * Pressure now falling again in Maria according to dropsonde, and she's looking a bit better on satellite. Her wind field is also expanding greatly, and models seem to be in a good agreement but the path has been just marginally west of north recently. Maybe the path gets deviated 50 miles west if this a trend before re-curve. Huge wind field means NC is going to feel Maria. Owen 17:29, September 24, 2017 (UTC)

What's more impressive about the major days, is that it was exactly one month ago when Harvey started to explode. Harvey was upgraded to a hurricane on August 24th. It became a major the next day. So all of these majors have happened in a span of 1 month. Also, according to Wikipedia, this season's ACE value is the highest since 2005.... Hurricane Lee Hoping for recovery. 22:22, September 24, 2017 (UTC)

Maria continues to weaken. 90 mph. Now a Category 1. Hurricane Lee Hoping for recovery. 02:45, September 25, 2017 (UTC)

This season is insane. Can't believe it has more major hurricane days than 2005. And the ACE value is insane as well. Irma, Jose and Maria are responsible for the large majority of ACE. Maria's current intensity is 90 mph/950 mbars with tropical storm watches up for the NC coast, especially Outer Banks. ~ <font face="Impact"> Steve   Talk Page  My Edits  📧  03:01, September 25, 2017 (UTC)


 * It'll stay a Cat 1 as it gets a little bit close to the NC coast. Hurricanes, hurricanes, hurricanes! -68.106.0.77 05:18, September 25, 2017 (UTC)


 * Maria's current structure is pretty weird, with the inner core collapsed, the northwestern part of the circulation exposed, and relatively weak yet expansive convective bands on the eastern part. I wouldn't be so sure about Maria maintaining hurricane status with the rate it's weakening right now; it may be downgraded to a strong TS within the next 12-24 hours. However, tropical storm warnings and watches are still up for parts of the Outer Banks and surrounding areas, since Maria's circulation remains large (about 10 times the size of Lee's). ~ KN2731 {talk} 11:06, September 25, 2017 (UTC)
 * The latest advisory shows Maria at 80 mph/965 mbars. Maria just looks very large compared to tiny Lee. The NHC forecasts that it will weaken to a TS by Wednesday although it could get there sooner than that. The Outer Banks are going to receive some impacts, and Weather.com radar maps show some showers on the Outer Banks likely associated with Maria's very outer bands. Dangerous surf is also an issue along the east coast during the next few days. ~ <font face="Impact"> Steve   Talk Page  My Edits  📧  21:02, September 25, 2017 (UTC)
 * She weakens to 75 mph/970 mb. Hurricanes, hurricanes, hurricanes! -68.106.0.77 14:35, September 26, 2017 (UTC)


 * Pressure goes up to 974 mbars while she rakes the Outer Banks. ~ <font face="Impact"> Steve   Talk Page  My Edits  📧  17:58, September 26, 2017 (UTC)

Tropical Storm Maria (2nd time)
For the first time since September 17th, Maria is a TS (70 mph/974 mbars). The Outer Banks should continue receiving some impacts. ~ <font face="Impact"> Steve   Talk Page  My Edits  📧  22:14, September 26, 2017 (UTC)


 * Finally, about time. It'll be Post-Tropical on Friday. Yeah, the Outer Banks is currently getting some impacts. Hurricanes, hurricanes, hurricanes! -68.106.0.77 00:51, September 27, 2017 (UTC)


 * Most of Maria's thunderstorm activity is on the southern and eastern side of the circulation, all North Carolina is getting from this are some winds. Rainfall and flooding from outer rainbands is almost non-existent on the coastline. This might even cause less impacts than Jose did for the east coast. Ryan1000 02:47, September 27, 2017 (UTC)


 * Maria is moving away from the Outer Banks. Expected to weaken as it gets to colder waters.  Hurricanes, hurricanes, hurricanes!-68.106.0.77 14:35, September 27, 2017 (UTC)
 * The damage totals are >$50 billion. Guys, we have unofficially the most costliest season of all ($183.1 billion). Hurricanes, hurricanes, hurricanes! -68.106.0.77 14:37, September 27, 2017 (UTC)

Hurricane Maria (4th time)
11 AM advisory says Maria is back at 75 mph even though forecast to streak across the Atlantic and get absorbed by a large extratropical low.The watches/warnings have been reduced but are not gone yet.12.144.5.2 16:26, September 27, 2017 (UTC)


 * Maria is starting the eastward turn, so impacts won't last for much longer. I also can't believe it has (preliminary) caused over $50 billion, and that's in the Caribbean alone. Dominica and Puerto Rico have been absolutely devastated by this monster, and Puerto Rico is facing a severe humanitarian crisis. ~ <font face="Impact"> Steve   Talk Page  My Edits  📧  03:03, September 28, 2017 (UTC)

Tropical Storm Maria (3rd time)
Weakened to a TS again. 70 mph/982 mb. Hurricanes, hurricanes, hurricanes!-68.106.0.77 14:26, September 28, 2017 (UTC)


 * Down to 65 mph/985 mbars. Should be dead by the weekend. Good riddance, after all the horror it wrought in the Caribbean! ~ <font face="Impact"> Steve   Talk Page  My Edits  📧  00:09, September 29, 2017 (UTC)
 * I will let out a sigh of relief once Maria dissipates. Good riddance, after Maria completed devestated Dominica and Puerto Rico! Hurricanes, hurricanes, hurricanes!-68.106.0.77 04:42, September 29, 2017 (UTC)
 * Yay, it's dying. It weakens to 60 mph/987 mb. Hurricanes, hurricanes, hurricanes! -68.106.0.77 14:32, September 29, 2017 (UTC)

Post-Tropical Cyclone Maria
Now extratropical. Good riddance, your not coming back in 2023 for sure. --MarioProtIV (talk) 20:47, September 30, 2017 (UTC)