Forum:2018 Atlantic hurricane season

The Hall of Fame returns
Earlier today I promoted TG and Steve to new administrators and No. 1 Mobile to a rollback on Hurricane Wiki per the votes they received on the community vote page. Although he wasn't promoted, I talked with Dylan (HurricaneMaker99) on revitalizing Eric (SkyFury's) Hurricane Hall of Fame, which was started many years ago, but wasn't gone that far into and Eric hasn't posted since the end of the 2012 AHS forum, and he's probably retired by now. But with many more notable storms since Eric's (presumed) retirement, I'd like to start it up again and continue his legacy with inducting more storms into the Hall of Fame. Currently he has a record of storms from the Atlantic, East Pacific, and West Pacific, and hasn't gone into the other basins, but with many more users on the wiki since last year's historic AHS, I think we can get a good pool of voters for the hall of fame this year and in coming years. What do you guys think? Ryan1000 23:05, June 14, 2018 (UTC)

AOI: SW of Azores
And another non-tropical system may form. 0/20 now. Anonymous 2.0 (talk) 12:02, September 19, 2018 (UTC)
 * 0/40 as of the moment. Anonymous 2.0 (talk) 16:02, September 20, 2018 (UTC)
 * Increased to 0/50. Anonymous 2.0 (talk) 18:52, September 20, 2018 (UTC)
 * Up to 0/60 now.  ~ Roy25     Talk  |  Contributions     02:30, September 21, 2018 (UTC)


 * 0/70, but still not yet an invest. Anonymous 2.0 (talk) 06:08, September 21, 2018 (UTC)

It's not every day we see such a stark contrast between 2 and 5 day development. If this becomes (sub)tropical storm Kirk, it would be the 4th storm this year to form in the far north Atlantic. That's not something that happens very often. Ryan1000 12:46, September 21, 2018 (UTC)
 * 10/70. This AOI and 99L are competing for Kirk. Anonymous 2.0 (talk) 13:57, September 21, 2018 (UTC)
 * 20/70. This is getting exciting... Anonymous 2.0 (talk) 21:16, September 21, 2018 (UTC)
 * Now up to 30/70, and still not invested. Say, when was the last time a season had six subtropical storms?  ~ Roy25     Talk  |  Contributions     00:07, September 22, 2018 (UTC)


 * 60/70 but still not an invest. Anonymous 2.0 (talk) 12:02, September 22, 2018 (UTC)

90L.INVEST
Finally been invested I think... 90L is up in this region on Tropical Tidbits. Now 60/60, but forecasted to be taken by a cold front by mid-week. This'll probably be a short-lived subtropical failure stealing the name "Leslie". I don't think there's EVER been a season with 6 subtropical storms. ~  Steve   Talk Page  My Edits  📧  06:06, September 23, 2018 (UTC)

Subtropical Storm Leslie
And here we have Debbie 4.0. 40 mph/1002 mb as of now. Send Help Please (talk) 08:10, August 10, 2018 (UTC)
 * Leslie just made 2018 become the only season on record to have six subtropical storms. Also supposed to be short-lived, probably because of the nearby AOI.  ~ Roy25     Talk  |  Contributions     17:31, September 23, 2018 (UTC)


 * BRUH WE TIME TRAVELLIN TO 2002 -grabs flip phone and puts on britney- --¡OIᗡ &#39;ƎW S∀M ⊥I (talk) 22:01, September 23, 2018 (UTC)

Subtropical Depression Leslie
Now on the verge of post-tropical transition. A complex transition is expected - baroclinic forcing will intensify the remnants to near-hurricane strength before it is expected to transition back into a subtropical storm, and hopefully it will become more significant in its second life. ~  Steve   Talk Page  My Edits  📧  05:03, September 25, 2018 (UTC)

Post-Tropical Cyclone Leslie
Probably Leslie's first post-tropical cyclone transition, as the 0/70 AOI is expected to merge with Leslie. Anonymous 2.0 (talk) 14:51, September 25, 2018 (UTC)
 * I'm kinda wondering if the 0/70 AOI is Leslie. Expected to transition back into a subtropical cyclone a few days from now, by which time it is forecast to be near the upper bound of TS strength. Would be interesting to see Leslie come back as a fully tropical hurricane. --Dylan (HurricaneMaker99) 14:56, September 25, 2018 (UTC)
 * 0/70 is Leslie.-- Isaac829 E-Mail  23:52, September 25, 2018 (UTC)
 * 40/90 now. Once Leslie regenerates she will be the 3rd storm to achieve that feat this year (after Beryl and Kirk). Anonymous 2.0 (talk) 15:02, September 26, 2018 (UTC)
 * 90/90, and with hurricane-force winds. Expected to transition back to a (sub)tropical storm within the next 36 hours or so. ~ KN2731 {talk} 11:35, September 27, 2018 (UTC)

Subtropical Storm Leslie (2nd time)
Officially regenerated, and now forecast to move south while remaining as a storm with TS-winds. ~ Roy25    Talk  |  Contributions     21:02, September 28, 2018 (UTC)
 * Due to Leslie's abnormally large windfield, Bermuda could see TS force winds even if Leslie remains a far distance away. Also, the U.S. eastern seaboard needs to watch out, as Leslie could produce rip currents that could be life-threatening to surfers. Ryan1000 22:19, September 28, 2018 (UTC)
 * Leslie's track seems unusual - I doubt I've ever tracked an Atlantic system going in that direction for a prolonged time (southwestward). It looks like it'll loop back to the east by midweek though. The track of Leslie reminds me of a few certain storms, especially ones that lasted a very long time such as Nadine '12 or Inga '69. This could hopefully become a major hurricane since the worst of the impacts will stay out to sea. ~  Steve   Talk Page  My Edits  📧  06:29, September 29, 2018 (UTC)
 * Apparently she's forecast to become a hurricane by Thursday. Beatissima (talk) 21:10, September 29, 2018 (UTC)

Tropical Storm Leslie
Looks like it's now fully tropical. New cone is weird, going southwest, then abruptly north whil expected to be a hurricane. ~ Roy25    Talk  |  Contributions     21:29, September 29, 2018 (UTC)
 * K... that track is one of the weirdest I've ever seen. This is forecast to hang in the same region for a week, kind of like how Nadine stayed in the Azores region for a long time back in 2012. ~  Steve   Talk Page  My Edits  📧  04:53, September 30, 2018 (UTC)
 * Now up to 60 mph / 990 mbar. It is now forecast to reach 80 mph on October 3 and 4 before weakening. IbAHAn1829 \I like weather/ \Contributions/ 11:19, October 1, 2018 (UTC)
 * 70/986 now. The 6th hurricane of the season is coming. IbAHAn1829 \I like weather/ \Contributions/ 23:24, October 2, 2018 (UTC)

Hurricane Leslie
Leslie is now finally a hurricane! ChowKam2002 (talk) 11:20, October 3, 2018 (UTC)
 * She might maintain that intensity for at least 3 more days, according to the latest forecast track, but after that she'll turn east and out to sea, and will die for good some time after that. Ryan1000 12:00, October 3, 2018 (UTC)

Tropical Storm Leslie (2nd time)
And now she's back to Tropical Storm strength. Beatissima (talk) 21:44, October 4, 2018 (UTC)
 * Expected to remain around 60 mph for the remainder of the forecast period. I swear, this stubborn system might pull off a Nadine/Kyle/Ginger/Inga. ~  Steve   Talk Page  My Edits  📧  04:41, October 5, 2018 (UTC)
 * Leslie might hit 3 weeks at this rate. None of the models look like they're certain what Leslie might do after turning east-southeast. ~ KN2731 {talk} 15:14, October 5, 2018 (UTC)
 * Watch her still be chilling out there while we're eating Christmas dinner. Beatissima (talk) 21:32, October 5, 2018 (UTC)

Man, this storm has been sticking around for quite some time now, she's the Nadine of 2018. I guess we might as well start calling her "Lengthy Leslie" or something like that, the longer she stays up and kickin' in the Atlantic. Still a fishspinner though, and fortunately no one was killed by rip currents on the U.S. eastern seaboard. Ryan1000 00:04, October 6, 2018 (UTC)
 * And now it's even forecast to restrengthen at the end of the 5 days. With the way things appear now, it's very possible it will hit at least 3 weeks and end up rivaling Nadine in longevity. Even the NHC seems bored with this system lol... "It appears that stubborn Leslie will be with us for several more days." (in the discussion) ~  Steve   Talk Page  My Edits  📧  05:39, October 6, 2018 (UTC)
 * Imagine how much sand has been washed away from Bermuda in these last couple days.-- Isaac829 E-Mail  20:08, October 6, 2018 (UTC)
 * She has surpassed Beryl as the second longest-lived cyclone of this season. And she'll probably outstrip Florence this coming week. Beatissima (talk) 22:12, October 6, 2018 (UTC)

Latest long range models show her curving southward, and coming rather close to the Canary Islands and Morocco. A close pass to/landfall on Morocco sounds like something that the "strangest storm" section on the betting pool would've cooked up. Even if it doesn't do anything crazy like that, she's already cemented herself as the best of the 2018 Subtropical Crew. Send Help Please (talk) 19:51, October 7, 2018 (UTC)
 * Yes. And, for added fun, the latest cone shows her re-strengthening to a hurricane on Thursday. Beatissima (talk) 20:48, October 7, 2018 (UTC)

If Leslie makes it to the Canary Islands or even Spain/Portugal down the road, it would be only the second time on record (after 2005) in which an Atlantic TC made a landfall that far east. Ryan1000 22:37, October 7, 2018 (UTC)
 * leslie, come make landfall in northern europe instead and cancel our lectures --FreedFromDesire (talk) 22:58, October 7, 2018 (UTC)

With her current track, Leslie could even end up in Portugal as a tropical storm, which would be a first. Ryan1000 00:34, October 9, 2018 (UTC)
 * Leslie has been such a fun, creative, long-winded cyclone. I hope she doesn't end up hurting anyone in the end. Beatissima (talk) 02:14, October 9, 2018 (UTC)
 * Agreed, Leslie's track has been very strange and unique. It just stubbornly wandered around for a couple weeks with one of the weirdest tracks I've ever witnessed. However, this probably won't last as long as Nadine because extratropical transition is now in the forecast for the weekend. It's possible this might head into Vince '05 territory while still tropical. ~  Steve   Talk Page  My Edits  📧  04:52, October 9, 2018 (UTC)
 * New forecast discussion gave me a good chuckle. "If Leslie moves as far east as shown in the NHC track forecast, it would likely become a post-tropical low by day 5, as shown explicitly in the forecast. However, until confidence in the track increases, I can't rule out that Leslie could remain a tropical cyclone almost indefinitely if it continues meandering over the northern Atlantic." (emphasis mine) --Dylan (HurricaneMaker99) 15:01, October 9, 2018 (UTC)
 * Yeah, watch the season end with her still dancing out there, becoming the first storm of the 2019 season...and a permanent fixture over the Atlantic. Beatissima (talk) 15:54, October 9, 2018 (UTC)
 * Lol wow, imagine if this beat John '94's all time longevity record and lasted months (jk). However it's much more realistic for it to become post-tropical this weekend. ~  Steve   Talk Page  My Edits  📧  19:59, October 9, 2018 (UTC)
 * Either way, after tomorrow, she'll surpass Florence as the longest of the season, and shortly after that, will head into the top 10 for the Atlantic. Beatissima (talk) 21:53, October 9, 2018 (UTC)

70 MPH/983 MB, you can do it Leslie, get back to hurricane strength! Just don't affect land at all and you'll be an awesome hurricane. YellowSkarmory (talk) 22:46, October 9, 2018 (UTC)

Leslie's motto should be "I do what I want!" Beatissima (talk) 01:04, October 10, 2018 (UTC)

Hurricane Leslie (2nd time)
Leslie is back up to hurricane strength. 75 mph/981 mb.YellowSkarmory (talk) 02:45, October 10, 2018 (UTC)
 * Never thought I'd see the word "ginormous" in an official report. I suppose Forecaster Blake is looking to have a little fun in the midst of Michael lumbering ever closer to land. Send Help Please  (talk) 03:10, October 10, 2018 (UTC)


 * "Something tells me that Leslie has at least one more trick up its sleeve, so the official forecast shows this trend, but is very low confidence." In the discussion, lol. YellowSkarmory (talk) 03:22, October 10, 2018 (UTC)

I swear, some of the models legitimately predict this thing is actually going to turn west-southwest when it nears the Canary islands and move back over the Atlantic over her own footsteps again. If that pans out then Leslie could even make a run for the longest-lived Atlantic storm ever. As long as no one is hurt, this is one helluva storm to track, especially for the Atlantic. Ryan1000 04:03, October 10, 2018 (UTC)
 * It would be funny if she and Nadine merged, and together they beat the earlier Nadine's record. Beatissima (talk) 04:30, October 10, 2018 (UTC)

While Michael is getting all the attention (for obvious reasons), the storm that I’ve started to call Lingering Leslie refuses to give up. Back up to a hurricane and forecast to stay around for another three days. Leeboy100 Beware Michael’s Fury. 14:22, October 10, 2018 (UTC)
 * Yep, as of today, she is the presumptive winner of this season's endurance award. Beatissima (talk) 23:33, October 10, 2018 (UTC)



Leslie is up to 80 mph/978 mb. YellowSkarmory (talk) 02:52, October 11, 2018 (UTC)
 * Because Leslie was extratropical for a few days, she hasn't quite yet surpassed Florence as the longest-lived (sub)tropical cyclone of the season, but I imagine the longevity crown will be Leslie's a few days from now. --Dylan (HurricaneMaker99) 13:39, October 11, 2018 (UTC)
 * That's true, but Longevity Leslie should take that crown eventually. Expected to linger until Sunday, when it becomes post-tropical at last. But even then, the forecast is not 100% confident in the very long term. ~  Steve   Talk Page  My Edits  📧  17:00, October 11, 2018 (UTC)
 * Reminder that NHC expected this to become a short-lived cyclone.


 * ...SUBTROPICAL STORM LESLIE FORMS IN THE NORTH ATLANTIC...FORECAST TO BE A SHORT-LIVED CYCLONE...
 * YellowSkarmory (talk) 22:03, October 11, 2018 (UTC)


 * NHC is now forecasting Lingering Leslie to still be around until Monday. Leslie just doesn’t want to give up, doesn’t she? Leeboy100 Beware Michael’s Fury. 22:21, October 11, 2018 (UTC)
 * Watches up for Madeira.-- Isaac829 E-Mail  01:47, October 12, 2018 (UTC)


 * If we don't count the days she spent as an extratropical cyclone -- my math might be wrong, but I think she surpasses Florence tonight. Beatissima (talk) 00:27, October 13, 2018 (UTC)

And now she's 90/969, but expected to go post-tropical a bit sooner than before. Something tells me that even if she does go post-tropical as planned, she'll regenerate. Because Leslie does whatever she wants. Beatissima (talk) 03:28, October 12, 2018 (UTC)


 * Leslie could be the first storm to bring hurricane or tropical storm-force winds to the Maderia Islands of Portugal, and could also impact the Canary Islands with extensive, albeit very unusual, impacts, like TS Delta of 2005. Ryan1000 10:42, October 12, 2018 (UTC)

It seems the NHC has changed course on their previous track, and now expect Leslie to hit Portugal as a non-tropical hurricane-strength storm, which would be a first. Ryan1000 22:26, October 12, 2018 (UTC)


 * It's been 19 days since Leslie was first named, and she's still hanging on. 70 knots, 976 mb. ~ KN2731 {talk} 04:32, October 13, 2018 (UTC)

October
It's now the start of October by UTC. We still have the potential to see activity later this month, in particular the northwest Caribbean should be watched, in the event we get a late-season strong storm there. Ryan1000 04:02, October 1, 2018 (UTC)

AOI: North of Panama
It seems like I may have spoke too soon. The NHC is monitoring an area of disturbed weather north of Panama. It's at 0/20 for now, but they note that once shear lessens up, this could be a dangerous storm in the rich-warm northwest Caribbean down the road. This is something to watch out for. If not this then something else might come later in the month in the NW Caribbean. Ryan1000 11:19, October 2, 2018 (UTC)
 * 0/30 now. Beatissima (talk) 23:30, October 2, 2018 (UTC)

0/40. Beatissima (talk) 22:18, October 4, 2018 (UTC)
 * Up to 10/50. This has potential to be something significant, and I've often thought of "Michael" as an ominous-sounding name. ~ <font face="Impact"> Steve   Talk Page  My Edits  📧  04:44, October 5, 2018 (UTC)
 * Up further to 30/60. This will likely affect the northeastern Gulf Coast in a week. ~ KN2731 {talk} 15:17, October 5, 2018 (UTC)
 * 40/70 now. This is something to watch, if it forms.  ~ Roy25     Talk  |  Contributions     20:58, October 05, 2018 (UTC)

91L.INVEST
Invested now at 40/70 50/80. Beatissima (talk) 22:09, October 5, 2018 (UTC)
 * I'm still concerned about how future-Michael will pan out. Hopefully conditions in the GOM won't allow it to become a monster and cause destruction on the Gulf Coast. I predict a peak at perhaps C1-C2, kinda like Nate. ~ <font face="Impact"> Steve   Talk Page  My Edits  📧  05:44, October 6, 2018 (UTC)

Up to 70/90.YellowSkarmory (talk) 06:06, October 6, 2018 (UTC)
 * Now up to 80/90. I'm assuming PTC/TD 14 will come later today or early tomorrow. The invest just needs a well-defined circulation to be designated.  ~ Roy25     Talk  |  Contributions     15:19, October 06, 2018 (UTC)

Potential Tropical Cyclone Fourteen
Special Message from NHC	Issued 6 Oct 2018 20:17 UTC NHC will be initiating advisories at 4 PM CDT on Potential Tropical Cyclone Fourteen, located over the northwestern Caribbean Sea.

They pretty much confirmed it. Here comes Michael! (assuming it becomes a TS, which it probably will.  ~ Roy25     Talk  |  Contributions     20:37, October 06, 2018 (UTC)
 * Up now on the TWO. Not expected to be a hurricane on the 5-day cone.  ~ Roy25     Talk  |  Contributions     20:58, October 06, 2018 (UTC)

It is, however, forecast to become a 70 mph TS, so it could have a chance to become a cat 1 or so before Michael-to-be makes landfall on the panhandle. Ryan1000 21:42, October 6, 2018 (UTC)


 * Track feels similar to Alberto or Gordon, especially with that peak.YellowSkarmory (talk) 21:59, October 6, 2018 (UTC)

100/100 now. Here it comes. Beatissima (talk) 23:43, October 6, 2018 (UTC)

Yep, here comes Michael, and it’s likely going to head straight towards where I am. Leeboy100 Hello!. 06:28, October 7, 2018 (UTC)
 * I'm looking at the model runs and now the ECWMF looks like it makes Michael a Category 3 hurricane making aim at the panhandle of Florida. I want to say anywhere from Tampa to New Orleans is under threat, but conditions look ripe in the Gulf for Michael to be quite ominous imo. I have a bad feeling.  Owen 07:15, October 7, 2018 (UTC)

I don't believe this'll get that powerful before landfall, but the NHC forecast does now call for a cat 1 landfall near Panama City; assuming it hits there, Michael-to-be would be the first hurricane to directly hit there in 20 years, since 1998's Hurricane Earl. Ryan1000 09:21, October 7, 2018 (UTC)

Tropical Depression Fourteen
Current systems section has already said this but this section hasn't been updated yet. Anyway, I hope it won't reach Category 3. If that happens just before landfall, future Michael may rival Florence. Anonymous 2.0 (talk) 12:30, October 7, 2018 (UTC)


 * Michael-to-be won't be anywhere near Flo's devastation; there isn't enough property in Panama City for a (hypothetical category 3) storm to cause the damage Flo did to NC, and this will be moving faster so flooding from rainfall won't be as much of a threat. Now, if this were heading for, say Tampa at that intensity, that would be much worse, but Michael-to-be will likely make landfall north of there. Assuming this becomes a cat 1 at landfall, it would probably be a repeat of Hermine 2 years ago, just northwest of the big bend area. Ryan1000 16:04, October 7, 2018 (UTC)

Tropical Storm Michael
Tropical Storm Michael RSS Feed icon Buoys | Grids | Storm Archive ...DEPRESSION STRENGTHENS TO A TROPICAL STORM... 11:55 AM CDT Sun Oct 7 Location: 19.2°N 86.9°W Moving: N at 5 mph Min pressure: 1004 mb Max sustained: 40 mph

Update statement from NHC calls Michael. TWO not updated yet ATM, but Michael should be a hurricane. ~ Roy25    Talk  |  Contributions     17:01, October 07, 2018 (UTC)


 * And like what Ryan said, this is basically Hermine 2.0. It is good that Michael is a fast-moving storm. Anonymous 2.0 (talk) 17:35, October 7, 2018 (UTC)
 * I like hurricanes. Just not when they hit people. It is a good thing that he's fast moving so no flooding from like stalling happens.YellowSkarmory (talk) 21:52, October 7, 2018 (UTC)
 * Figured I'd share with you all this wonderful song that happens to bear this storm's name. Will be listening to it a lot this coming week, just as I did with this belter while Hurricane Maria was active. --Dylan (HurricaneMaker99) 20:45, October 7, 2018 (UTC)

New advisory, 50 mph/999 mb. Now expected to peak as a Cat. 2. Like I said much earlier in the year, Michael gives me negative vibes... Send Help Please (talk) 21:02, October 7, 2018 (UTC)


 * The official NHC forecast is Cat 2 although several models are suggesting a Category 3 hurricane. Also some suggestion track will be revised slightly eastward which could put Tampa more as having potential effects so the track will need to be watched closely. Michael very likely could be the second retirement candidate of the year. Looks like the "M" is now the cursed letter of this decade much like how the "I" was last decade. --Whiplash (talk) 21:17, October 7, 2018 (UTC)
 * Looks like the Carolinas will get soaked again. Beatissima (talk) 21:39, October 7, 2018 (UTC)
 * As someone in Tampa, I'm growing increasingly concerned with Michael. If the eastward trend continues, the forecast cone could bring the center of a hurricane up through the Tampa Bay area and further into the Carolinas in areas already devastated by Florence. We are approaching our 100 years without a major hurricane strike, and every year the city is one of (if not, the most) overdue for a strike. I'm concerned about the lack of the time for preparation. Model runs are trending stronger and the GFS and ECWMF shows a category 3 major hurricane approaching the coastline with plenty of more room for rapid intensification. The HWRF wants to make him a monster, and boy would I crap my pants if I see a run with the new recon data of sub 920 mbar. Talk about an October surprise in all aspects (weather-wise and politically in the USA). If Michael wants to be big, bad, and join his sister Florence in retirement, that would be the way to do it. Owen 21:53, October 7, 2018 (UTC)
 * That would really be a worst case scenario. Recovery efforts for Florence are still ongoing, right?YellowSkarmory (talk) 21:54, October 7, 2018 (UTC)

Dang...maybe the Euro wasn't so crazy on that earlier intensity forecast after all. NHC said that the eastward shift in the track was due to the center apparently trying to reform farther east. He'll recurve due to a deep trough, but when the recurve happens is all dependent on how much speed Michael picks up and how strong he gets when he does so. If Michael books it like Nate of last year, then he'll probably hit the northern gulf coast, as indicated by the NHC forecast, but Michael has a tiny circulation embeded in deep convection, so if he RI's (and worse, slows down on top of that, hopefully he doesn't), then Michael and the trough could break through the ridge and move further south than the current projected track. I didn't expect Michael to get organized this fast, but apparently the northwesterly shear over him didn't hinder him as much as I first thought it would, and now he's much better organized. And as storms like Patricia showed in 2015, tiny storms can explode very quickly given the optimal conditions, and there may be no more than a day or two before their powerful landfalls...hopefully he passes north of Tampa down the road, a direct hit there from a strong major hurricane would be devastating.

Also Owen, I think you may have seen this report before (I believe I mentioned it once before), but if you haven't, Dr. Masters made a blog post in late 2012 at one point, when he stated that Sandy technically wasn't a worst-case scenario ("black swan") hurricane for NYC, as bad as it was, since it made landfall far enough south and wasn't a major hurricane when she struck. In that post, he mentioned 3 cities that could suffer extreme damage from a worst-case scenario hurricane, and one was Tampa. The other two were the Persian Gulf, if an instance were to happen similar to Cyclone Gonu in 2007 but without significant dry air to weaken it, a strong storm surge in the United Arab Emerates could do major damage to the middle eastern oil industry, and Darwin, Australia (formerly destroyed by Cyclone Tracy in 1974, but Tracy was a wind event due to her tiny size, and didn't do much in terms of storm surge. In the Tampa scenario, he mentioned a late report (I believe The Weather Channel also made a documentary on this) that if a hypothetical category 5 "Hurricane Phoenix" directly struck Tampa, it could cause a colossal storm surge that could reach as much as 43 feet high, and cause up to 250 billion dollars in damage, twice the damage from Harvey last year. I don't think Michael will become a category 5 storm, but if push comes to shove and the recent intensity runs from some of the models come to fruition, and if the track keeps shifting further south, Tampa may have to watch out for a very close run from a category 3 or even 4 storm...it's nerve-racking to see storms change this quickly. Ryan1000 22:25, October 7, 2018 (UTC)
 * i didn't know hurricanes can moonwalk and change their cloud colours --FreedFromDesire (talk) 22:57, October 7, 2018 (UTC)
 * Up to 60 mph/997 mb. This thing is really getting its act together. Send Help Please  (talk) 23:48, October 7, 2018 (UTC)
 * because this is thriller, michael doesn't care about us bc he is a smooth criminal who thinks the US is billie jean --FreedFromDesire (talk) 23:55, October 7, 2018 (UTC)
 * This might actually become scary. IbAHAn1829 \I like weather/ \Contributions/ 01:57, October 8, 2018 (UTC)

Michael is starting to scare me. Leeboy100 Hello!. 02:39, October 8, 2018 (UTC)
 * that moonwalking colour-changing glitter-gloved storm is now 70mph (for americans that use imperial bc yall love imperial, drink de cola YeY) and now is forecast to become a hurricane soon, 110mph cat 2. AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA Michael: "Hey girl, do you Remember The Time that I gave you a Thriller but your dad told me to Beat It cause I was Bad, and I said it's Human Nature. But he Didn't Care About Us, so I ran like a Speed Demon that Can't Stop Loving You, I mean The Way You Make Me Feel. I said to you I can't help that I just want to Rock With You, and you Don't Stop Till You Get Enough cause I'll be a Smooth Criminal but now I have to look at the Man In The Mirror and say She's Out of My Life."

--FreedFromDesire (talk) 12:24, October 8, 2018 (UTC)

Hurricane Michael
AL, 14, 2018100812,, BEST, 0, 209N, 851W, 65, 982, HU

Per ATCF, Michael is now a hurricane. One thing I want to note with Michael is that he continues to move more north and a bit east at times...I'm not buying a sharp NNW turn, not in October. Front looks too strong, and I still think he will be east of the current forecast based mostly on my gut, but it remains to all be seen. Owen 13:01, October 8, 2018 (UTC)

NHC confirms. 75 mph, 982 mbar. Leeboy100 Hello!. 14:42, October 8, 2018 (UTC)


 * Also, NHC forecasts are now bringing this up to major status before landfall. If that happens, say hello to our second retirement candidate. Leeboy100 Hello!. 14:47, October 8, 2018 (UTC)
 * Edit Conflict: NHC also now predicts Michael to peak as a mid strength Cat 3 at 120mph. While I think Cat 3 is the most likely scenario for Michael I have seen some experts on Twitter saying low level Cat 4 is also a possibility in this scenario as well. Track also seems to be too far west in models and many are admitting this. Tallahassee looks like it could take a direct hit and experience major hurricane winds and can't rule out further eastern track depending on forward speed. Storm surge warnings have also been issued for Tampa. This is going to be a major event for Florida and this will almost certainly be retired if this scenario plays out. --Whiplash (talk) 14:50, October 8, 2018 (UTC)
 * CORRECTION**: That should say watch for Tampa. :) --Whiplash (talk) 14:55, October 8, 2018 (UTC)
 * Things are looking worse every hour. For those who don't know, Florida's king tide event will occur while Michael is forecast to make landfall. Not only does that mean water levels will be at their highest, but there is the potential for a poisonous algae to be present. Pray for Florida, they're gonna be hit hard. -  PORY GONAL  14:59, October 8, 2018 (UTC)
 * I hope this won't become Irma 2.0. That's all I can say. It is moving fast, but it is intensifying fast. I really don't feel good about Michael now. Anonymous 2.0 (talk) 15:01, October 8, 2018 (UTC)
 * And one more thing, death toll has risen to 9. Anonymous 2.0 (talk) 15:11, October 8, 2018 (UTC)
 * So just to pick everyone's brain's here for a second. The track of Michael is taking it either just to the west or east of the Apalachicola penninsula. On the east of the penninsula is the Apalachee Bay. Now as far as I can tell if Michael does take this route is there actually any precedent for a major hurricane making landfall here. The closest I can tell would be the 1896 Cedar Keys hurricane at Cat 3 but even that was not in the bay. If Michael does take the more eastern route than I believe this would be the most severe hurricane to ever hit this area and probably the worst storm to ever hit Tallahassee. I suppose this route might be good because the actual coast where the storm surge is going to be is not that populated here? --Whiplash (talk) 16:39, October 8, 2018 (UTC)

No change in winds, but pressure down to 978 mbars per latest advisory. ~ Roy25    Talk  |  Contributions     18:24, October 08, 2018 (UTC)

This track is genuinely terrifying.YellowSkarmory (talk) 18:28, October 8, 2018 (UTC)
 * Winds now up to 80 mph, no change in pressure.  Send Help Please (talk) 20:47, October 8, 2018 (UTC)

Well, the NHC expects the trough to come later while the high pressure ridge over Florida remains intact, but Michael's rapid intensification and less than fast movement could drastically change the track, and in a very short time Frame. If Michael continues to explode and move slowly while the trough catches up, then Tampa may well be in the firing line soon, because he's located further east than he was expected at this point. A 120 mph category 3 hurricane hitting Panama city would be devastating, but a Tampa landfall would be much, much worse. And yeah Whiplash, the area between Tampa and Panama City in Cedar Key or so (where Hermine made landfall in 2016) is less populated than many other coastal parts of Florida, though it is vulnerable to storm surge. But I really don't like Michael's rapidly changing intensity (and potentially course) that has happened overnight, especially for Tampa. Ryan1000 21:16, October 8, 2018 (UTC)
 * So I decided to do a little homework on major hurricane landfalls in this area. To answer my above question there has actually never been a major hurricane in the Apalachee Bay proper. Considering a lot of the forecasts have Panama City kind of in the middle of the cone of uncertainty I decided to see all the major hurricanes that landfalled within 65 nautical miles of the area and there have been 6 all category 3's the were by recency in 1851, 1877, 1882, 1894, 1917, and Eloise in 1975, in otherwords it has been a very long time since a major hurricane has made landfall in this particular section of the Panhandle and the most recent Florida Panhandle hurricanes have been more towards the Pensacola area so this track would be a rarity if this is where the final landfall is and at least from the climatological record a Category 4 has never made landfall in this area. Which maybe is a comforting statistic although there is nothing with the dynamics of the area to say this area couldn't have a Category 4. I hope that the length of time since a bad storm here doesn't lead to complacency with the evacuation orders. Eloise the last storm in this area did not cause any direct fatalities in the state although 4 people died indirectly in the state most of Eloise's fatalities occured in the northeastern U.S. as it became a rain event. Based on these facts hopefully Michael isn't particularly catastrophic in Florida however depending on track potentially the biggest issue could be if he further aggravates the flooding issue in the Carolina's. Not sure if he will be a retirement candidate after all, just depends how seriously people take the storm to avoid loss of life. --Whiplash (talk) 22:42, October 8, 2018 (UTC)

WOW. Preliminary data from the most recent recon mission suggests Michael has dropped from 978 to 968mb since the last mission started. If this keeps up we would be looking at a monster major by tomorrow morning. --Whiplash (talk) 23:44, October 8, 2018 (UTC)
 * Per latest advisory, Michael now 85/970. This is getting worse and worse.  ~ Roy25     Talk  |  Contributions     00:01, October 09, 2018 (UTC)


 * (edit conflict) If Michael hits Panama City as a category 4 storm (as indicated by the HWRF) it would be a very destructive hurricane, though it may not cause nearly as much as Florence did to North Carolina due to it's lower population than cities like Tampa or Miami, but a landfall farther south can't be ruled out, and Michael has also expanded his outer windfield a bit since before...for some ominous reason, I have a bad feeling this'll hit Tampa if it continues to quickly explode, because it could get recurved by the approaching trough sooner if that happens. Ryan1000 00:09, October 9, 2018 (UTC)
 * I have this gut feeling as well Ryan, but I also had the same one with Irma and we saw what ended up happening. The movement is still due north, which would bring the eye of Michael closer to Tallahassee than Panama City. Regardless of where Michael ends up landing, this is a very scary situation unfolding. Owen 01:51, October 9, 2018 (UTC)

Now up to 90 mph.  Send Help Please (talk) 02:58, October 9, 2018 (UTC)
 * I've been watching this system over the past couple days and it's really shaping up to be something very scary for the Florida Panhandle. Michael is intensifying fast and could make landfall as a major hurricane. I'm particularly concerned for Leeboy, who lives in that region... This is shaping up to be the year's second retirement candidate. Unfortunately, that region doesn't have much time to prepare (landfall is Wednesday). ~ <font face="Impact"> Steve   Talk Page  My Edits  📧  04:44, October 9, 2018 (UTC)


 * Depends on how strong the ridge holds. If the high pressure ridge holds on (like it fortunately currently seems to be), then Tampa might get off the hook, but if it misses Tampa it may become stronger when it reaches the panhandle. In the case of Irma, I feared that it would actually be a worst-case scenario for Miami and/or Savannah instead of Tampa (since an exceptionally strong major hurricane hitting Miami could inflict even more damage than a similar storm in Tampa, especially since a storm like Irma was expected to ride north-northwestward up the southeastern coast of the state, which would've also devastated many towns and suburbs north of downtown). But back to Michael, Panama City is on the coastline instead of inland like Tallahassee, but they could both be hit hard by this thing, and with Michael's rapidly organizing structure, I honestly wouldn't be surprised if he becomes a cat 4 before landfall, he's already looking as if he wants to develop a pinhole eye, and with the current conditions in the GOM, I don't see anything stopping him from intensifying very rapidly over the next day or two, possibly even to a 4. Also @Whiplash: Panama City technically wasn't founded in Florida until 1909, so although the 1851, 1877, 1882 and 1894 hurricanes made landfall in that area of Florida, Panama City didn't exist at the time those 4 storms struck. That leaves the 1917 hurricane and Eloise, and they both technically missed the city just to the west, although that still left Panama City with parts of the right-hand side of the storms. Michael will certainly be the worst hurricane in modern memory for the small city of roughly 37,000 people, if he becomes a category 4, let alone 3, at landfall there. Ryan1000 04:50, October 9, 2018 (UTC)
 * Now up to 100 mph/968 mb. Send Help Please  (talk) 12:02, October 9, 2018 (UTC)
 * 965 mb/110 mph. Michael is almost a major now. Anonymous 2.0 (talk) 14:44, October 9, 2018 (UTC)
 * Still 110 mph/965 mb at the 1 PM CDT advisory. EDIT: I'm an idiot and forgot to sign.YellowSkarmory (talk) 19:49, October 9, 2018 (UTC)
 * This is getting scarier and scarier. It's already so close to major status and might be one by the next advisory. This is looking like it will be devastating for the Florida Panhandle... God help them ~ <font face="Impact"> Steve   Talk Page  My Edits  📧  19:53, October 9, 2018 (UTC)

Major Hurricane Michael
Oh no, jumped to 120/957. C4 is now possible if Michael continues to intensify. ~ Roy25    Talk  |  Contributions     20:57, October 09, 2018 (UTC)
 * Yep, Michael's joining Florence in retirement, no doubt about it. Send Help Please  (talk) 21:02, October 9, 2018 (UTC)
 * Michael is expected to be the strongest storm to hit the Florida Panhandle since Dennis in 2005. Which means people in that region had not gotten a major hurricane hit for over 13 years. I really hope they are well prepared right now as this is the last day before Michael unleashes his fury.  ~ Roy25     Talk  |  Contributions     21:12, October 09, 2018 (UTC)

The best case scenario for Florida: Michael to pull off a Hermine or Nate. Worst-case scenarios, meanwhile, range from Eloise and Elena to Charley, Dennis, Ivan and Opal. And Michael may even be Harvey-like in terms of (rapid) intensification. This is looking to be a confirmation of another curse in the Atlantic name lists: the "M" curse. Before 2016, the only "M" names retired were Marilyn and Michelle, both from list 5, and of course, the deadliest named storm in the Atlantic: Mitch. (Thanks Dylan for reminding me!) We now have two more names added to it (Matthew and Maria); we may likely have the third one in a row with this one. Anonymous 2.0 (talk) 21:17, October 9, 2018 (UTC)
 * Don't forget Mitch, whose retirement got Matthew on the lists in the first place...! --Dylan (HurricaneMaker99) 21:20, October 9, 2018 (UTC)

Michael has been wrapping some thick convection around his circulation recently, which could lead to even more strengthening before landfall. The current forecast calls for Michael to become a slightly stronger 125 mph major hurricane, but given his impressive structure and the continued favorable conditions in the GOM, a cat 4 is very possible and likely with him before landfall. Panama City is staring down a potential death strike from this storm. Ryan1000 21:45, October 9, 2018 (UTC)

This storm appears to be strengthening further. This storm is becoming really scary. Also, on the new apparent M name curse, it kind of makes sense. The letter M is the 13th letter of the alphabet. I’m likely fine where I’m at, on the west side of the center, but I hope people closer to the center and in the East side are prepared. Leeboy100 Beware Michael’s Fury. 23:41, October 9, 2018 (UTC)

Same winds but 4 millibars lower. 120 mph/953 mb.YellowSkarmory (talk) 23:50, October 9, 2018 (UTC)


 * Michael looks like a beast in the IR. This is some structure you only see in the very strongest hurricanes. Will almost certainly be a 4 now and could take a wild run at a 5. Unthinkable. This will certainly be the worst hurricane to ever hit the Florida Panhandle and may the storm of a lifetime for that part of the state. --Whiplash (talk) 00:08, October 10, 2018 (UTC)

Michael is significantly better organized by now, and he's a lock for a category 4 tonight. I'm not sure if Michael will reach category 5 intensity, but if he does, or becomes a top-end category 4, Panama City will be annihilated tomorrow afternoon or night. This is looking to be an absolutely terrible storm for the panhandle region, and could possibly be their worst hurricane on record. Furthermore, Michael could also worsen relief efforts after Florence in NC due to rainfall from his remnants. Ryan1000 00:30, October 10, 2018 (UTC)
 * 00z ATCF revised the intensity to 110 kts/949 mbar. At this rate, Michael may unseat Florence as the strongest storm of the season... a bit close to land there, boy... remember the forecasts for Florence that crashed her into the Carolinas as a Category 4? Florence may have ultimately fallen well short of striking the US at such an intensity, but Michael seems determined to succeed where she failed. --Dylan (HurricaneMaker99) 00:57, October 10, 2018 (UTC)

I swear I saw Michael took on an annular appearance briefly in the latest sattelite imagery, in any instance Michael will likely become a 4 sometime later today. Ryan1000 02:51, October 10, 2018 (UTC)

Michael up to 125 mph/947 mb. Projected to reach category 4. YellowSkarmory (talk) 02:53, October 10, 2018 (UTC)


 * Absolutely astonishing. If anyone had have told me that this storm would be eyeing Cat. 4 a few days ago, I would have called them crazy. This is about to make Opal's impacts look puny... Send Help Please  (talk) 03:02, October 10, 2018 (UTC)

Yeah this looks annular right now. Not good, and...if Michael is a category 4 at his landfall in Florida tomorrow, it would be one of only five category 4 hurricanes to hit the U.S. during October, the others being the 1893 Chenier-Caminanda Hurricane, the 1898 Georgia Hurricane, King of 1950 and Hazel of 1954. It would also be the strongest landfalling hurricane in the Florida Panhandle if it does so. Hopefully Panama City has been evacuated by now, because this relentless monster has less than a day until landfall. Ryan1000 04:13, October 10, 2018 (UTC)
 * 130/945. This is a monster. Anonymous 2.0 (talk) 05:58, October 10, 2018 (UTC)

MICHAEL BECOMES AN EXTREMELY DANGEROUS CATEGORY 4 HURRICANE... ...LIFE-THREATENING STORM SURGE...HURRICANE FORCE WINDS...AND HEAVY RAINFALL EXPECTED ALONG THE NORTHEASTERN GULF COAST... Category 4 now. 130 mph, 945 mbars. Leeboy100 Beware Michael’s Fury. 05:59, October 10, 2018 (UTC)


 * 4 AM advisory came out recently, Michael is now up to 140 mph and 943 mbars. Pressure is only 4 mbars behind Florence. RIP Panama City... Ryan1000 09:42, October 10, 2018 (UTC)
 * 5AM CDT update: 140 mph, 937 mbar. Michael has surpassed Florence intensity-wise. Anonymous 2.0 (talk) 10:08, October 10, 2018 (UTC)

Michael is continuing to rapidly organize and he's also picking up speed, he might even have a chance to reach 150 or 155 mph before making landfall later this morning or afternoon. Hopefully everyone has evacuated by now. Ryan1000 10:38, October 10, 2018 (UTC)


 * Latest recon suggesting pressure of 933mbar and somewhere between 125 and 130knts. Probably will be 150mph at next adviory and will probably be either 155mph or a 160mph Category 5 at landfall based on current rate of intensification. Are we about to have the 4th Category 5 landfall in the U.S. on record? --Whiplash (talk) 11:10, October 10, 2018 (UTC)
 * Surely enough, the just-issued intermediate advisory ups Michael to 125 kts/933 mbar. --Dylan (HurricaneMaker99) 11:47, October 10, 2018 (UTC)

What may be worse than the intensity is that, if the Today Show Twitter is telling the truth, upward of 25,000 are still in Panama City. This...has the potential to be utterly heartbreaking. Thoughts going out, hope it doesn't turn out as bad as it could. Jake52 (talk) 12:29, October 10, 2018 (UTC)
 * Oh dear, I hope that isn't the case. Anyway, Michael is now turning out to be the Panama hurricane: it started as a wave north of Panama, and will likely hit Panama City (in the U.S.) very bad. Michael may even reach 150 or 155 mph. Anonymous 2.0 (talk) 12:55, October 10, 2018 (UTC)
 * Holy crap, look at the latest visible imagery! At this point I wouldn't be surprised if Michael manages to crack Category 5 before landfall. This keeps looking worse by the hour. --Dylan (HurricaneMaker99) 12:58, October 10, 2018 (UTC)
 * RIP Florida Panhandle! This is going to be the first C4 to strike the Panhandle on record. I hope as much people as possible are out of the area now. Don't want to hear about deaths from those who refused to evacuate. Michael's an absolutely scary, life-threatening catastrophe... 2nd retirement candidate for sure now. And God forbid if it becomes a C5! ~ <font face="Impact"> Steve   Talk Page  My Edits  📧  13:18, October 10, 2018 (UTC)

145/931 now. I'm almost more worried about the Carolinas at this point from impacts with Michael, and the gulf impacts will be bad.. YellowSkarmory (talk) 14:07, October 10, 2018 (UTC)
 * At this point, I'm worried for the Southeastern U.S. (excluding southeast Florida though). This is another historic hurricane for the U.S., and this may not be the last one yet. Anonymous 2.0 (talk) 14:12, October 10, 2018 (UTC)
 * Same winds, down to 928 mb. Anonymous 2.0 (talk) 14:59, October 10, 2018 (UTC)

Special 10:30 AM advisory: 150 mph, 923 millibars. This is just unbelievable, and getting scarier by the minute. Leeboy100 Beware Michael’s Fury. 15:32, October 10, 2018 (UTC)
 * Unless Michael spectacularly collapses in the next 3 or 4 hours before landfall, he's a lock for one of the top 10 most intense landfalling hurricanes in US history, and seems to even be making a run for the top 5. --Dylan (HurricaneMaker99) 15:47, October 10, 2018 (UTC)
 * 919 mbar per the 12pm CDT position update!!! If Michael hits land with that pressure, he'll be the third most intense landfalling US hurricane on record, only behind the Labor Day hurricane and Camille. This is just unreal... --Dylan (HurricaneMaker99) 16:57, October 10, 2018 (UTC)


 * 919 millibars as of the latest update. Winds stay the same. If this pressure holds until landfall, Michael will be the third most intense hurricane to make landfall in the US. Only behind Camille and the Labor Day Hurricane, and just ahead of Katrina. This is just unbelievable. Leeboy100 Beware Michael’s Fury. 16:58, October 10, 2018 (UTC)

Menacing Michael now moving onshore. Landfall imminent. This would be the strongest landfalling hurricane in the U.S. since Camille. Anonymous 2.0 (talk) 17:18, October 10, 2018 (UTC)

155/919. WOW. YellowSkarmory (talk) 17:40, October 10, 2018 (UTC)

Landfall between Mexico Beach and Tyndall AFB, FL
And it seems that Michael is now making landfall between Panama City and Mexico Beach, near the Tyndall Air Force Base which already recorded a 129 mph gust before Michael moved ashore. Yes, we now have America's strongest landfalling hurricane in 49 years. Anonymous 2.0 (talk) 17:24, October 10, 2018 (UTC)
 * Yep, YellowSkarmory is right: Michael is almost a Category 5 at landfall. 155 mph, 919 mb. Anonymous 2.0 (talk) 17:42, October 10, 2018 (UTC)


 * Yep 155, 919. Third strongest landfall in US history. Leeboy100 Beware Michael’s Fury. 17:43, October 10, 2018 (UTC)

155/919. This is terrifying, could be upgraded to cat 5 in analysis. Edit: Landfall location is Farmdale, Florida I think. YellowSkarmory (talk) 17:43, October 10, 2018 (UTC)
 * Pardon my French, but holy fuck... Michael is a guaranteed retirement, and will make the 'M' letter only the second in Atlantic history after the 'I' letter to be retired at least three seasons in a row. Also, if Michael is upgraded to a Category 5 in post-analysis, he will be the third consecutive Atlantic 'M' storm to reach C5 intensity, which would be a first for any letter since TC naming began in 1950. I can't even wrap my head around what has transpired since this weekend. This was a goddamn WAVE only four days ago, and today it achieved the fourth-highest winds and third-lowest pressure of any Lower-48-landfalling hurricane in history. --Dylan (HurricaneMaker99) 19:34, October 10, 2018 (UTC)

Down to 140/927, but it's still a C4 25 miles south of the Alabama/Florida border. This could be the deadliest US hurricane excluding Maria since Katrina. One of the scariest that i've ever tracked past like the actual landfall point/a day or two before. YellowSkarmory (talk) 19:57, October 10, 2018 (UTC)


 * Panama City just got smashed by this monster, I expected Michael to intensify more before landfall, but 155 mph? This thing fell just 5 mph shy of being the first category 5 hurricane to hit the Florida Panhandle on record, and is now the 3rd most intense and tied for 5th strongest by windspeed, hurricane to hit the U.S. It's also the strongest October storm to do so, and the strongest ever in the Florida panhandle. Michael absolutely exploded just before making landfall, hopefully loss of life won't match the inevitable extreme damage we'll see in the aftermath of this hurricane. It's hard to imagine this thing didn't even exist 5 days ago, and now we've got one of the strongest U.S. landfalling hurricanes ever. God help the people in the Panhandle from this monster. Ryan1000 20:19, October 10, 2018 (UTC)

Down to "only" a category 3. 125 mph, 932 mb. Super close to the Alabama/Georgia/Florida tri-point now. Unsure exactly where. YellowSkarmory (talk) 20:54, October 10, 2018 (UTC)

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 * 115/940 now. Soon going to be a cat 2 at this rate but it's over Georgia, first major hurricane to have its' eye over Georgia since 1898. YellowSkarmory (talk) 22:21, October 10, 2018 (UTC)

Hurricane Michael (2nd time)
Cat 2. 100/950 now. Leeboy100 Beware Michael’s Fury. 23:05, October 10, 2018 (UTC)

Sadly, they've just announced a fatality. One person died when a tree fell.


 * Aw man, was really hoping we wouldn't see that many deaths or one this early. :( At least it's no longer a major hurricane. YellowSkarmory (talk) 23:11, October 10, 2018 (UTC)
 * Agreed.  But I fear this person is just the first of many, on top of the 13 people who were killed in Central America, especially since so many people did not evacuate. Beatissima (talk) 23:21, October 10, 2018 (UTC)

Down to Cat 1. Beatissima (talk) 00:00, October 11, 2018 (UTC)


 * 90/955. What's the lowest pressure ever recorded in a C1? YellowSkarmory (talk) 00:02, October 11, 2018 (UTC)
 * Sandy 2012? I can't believe Michael almost reached C5 intensity right before landfall! One of the most powerful U.S. landfalls on record... This is a lock for retirement at this point, and it's possible it'll end up in the top 3 costliest on record once it's all said and done. I pray the deaths don't significantly rise further. Panama City and surrounding areas were absolutely obliterated. ~ <font face="Impact"> Steve   Talk Page  My Edits  📧  00:07, October 11, 2018 (UTC)


 * Sandy would be the correct answer. Sandy’s 940 millibar pressure is the lowest pressure on record for a Category 1. Meanwhile, Michael continues to weaken. Down to 85/960. Leeboy100 Beware Michael’s Fury. 01:18, October 11, 2018 (UTC)

Michael is down to 75/970. I expect to see him become a TS soon. YellowSkarmory (talk) 02:55, October 11, 2018 (UTC)


 * I will be very eager to see the re-analysis of this storm I would not be surprised at all for it to be reclassified as a 5 at landfall. Some recon readings suggested some Cat 5 winds right before landfall. We will have to wait awhile to find out though. --Whiplash (talk) 03:13, October 11, 2018 (UTC)

Tropical Storm Michael (2nd time)
Speak of the devil, 70 mph/975 mb. Still worried about the Carolinas. YellowSkarmory (talk) 04:09, October 11, 2018 (UTC)
 * Michael may or may not be costlier than Florence, but retirement is very certain at this point. Anyway, winds are now down to 60 mph, but the pressure remains very low: 979 hPa. Anonymous 2.0 (talk) 07:04, October 11, 2018 (UTC)

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 * 50/990 now but he's over the Carolinas now. Might threaten europe while extratropical/post-tropical. YellowSkarmory (talk) 16:48, October 11, 2018 (UTC)
 * Yep, the forecast track takes it directly into Britain and France now as an extratropical system. Michael will likely end up in the top 5 costliest systems on record. This naughty boy will be retired for sure after this year. As it weakens over the Carolinas and turns extratropical, good riddance to Michael! ~ <font face="Impact"> Steve   Talk Page  My Edits  📧  17:06, October 11, 2018 (UTC)

Because of Michael's rapid forward speed, inland flooding won't be as severe as Florence earlier this year or from similar stalling storms. Still, Michael brought extreme damage to the Panhandle where he struck; Panama City looks like a warzone, with power lines down all across the city and several buildings fell apart or collapsed in Michael's colossal storm surge and extreme winds. The only bit of good news is that Panama City and the areas to the southeast of it aren't the most populated parts of Florida's coastline; I can't even imagine what would've happened had Michael hit a larger city like Tampa at the intensity he did near Panama City. Ryan1000 21:13, October 11, 2018 (UTC)

Sadly, the death toll for Michael in the US is now up to 6. 4 in Florida, 1 in Georgia, and 1 in North Carolina. Once again, North Carolina is getting hit hard again, not even a month after Florence. Michael is definitely getting axed this year. Also, as somebody who went through Ivan, I can say that Michael is probably the worst storm the Florida Panhandle has ever seen. Sure, I haven’t seen the damage in person like I did with Ivan, but the damage photos I have seen look a lot worse than the damage wrought by Ivan. Edit: I looked it up, that death was in North Carolina. Leeboy100 Beware Michael’s Fury. 22:14, October 11, 2018 (UTC)


 * Reports that there are 285 people unaccounted for in Mexico Beach alone. Considering Port St. Joe, Panama City and Apalachicola all were hit by very destructive surges and probably had people who ignored evactuations the death toll could really explode here unfortunately. --Whiplash (talk) 02:28, October 12, 2018 (UTC)

Michael has strengthened. Up to 60 mph/985 mb. YellowSkarmory (talk) 06:16, October 12, 2018 (UTC)

Post-Tropical Cyclone Michael
After becoming very disorganized recently, and since he no longer poses a threat the U.S. east coast due to moving offshore (except for some parts of New England this morning), the NHC has ceased to issue advisories on Michael. Ryan1000 09:42, October 12, 2018 (UTC)
 * Off goes the final incarnation of Michael. Send Help Please  (talk) 12:00, October 12, 2018 (UTC)
 * Insured losses are now at $8 billion. 26 deaths so far: 11 in the U.S. and 15 in Central America (8 in Honduras, 4 in Nicaragua, 3 in El Salvador). Michael is basically "going, going, gone" from the lists. Anonymous 2.0 (talk) 18:06, October 12, 2018 (UTC)
 * Now up to 17 dead in the U.S. What concerns me most is that this death toll does not include anyone from Panama City or Mexico Beach which according to this article several bodies have been found but unfortunately they haven't been able to count them all with the coroner of the area saying they are overwhelmed at the moment. However, they also scrapped the need for a temporary morgue so not sure what we are looking at as a final death toll from this area as there are conflicting signals. In other news apparently some aircraft which were under maintenance weren't able to be evacuated from the base each of which with price tags of $146 million dollars. Apparently they have also been seriously damaged. I feel the total damage amount from this storm is going to increase sadly. --Whiplash (talk) 23:56, October 12, 2018 (UTC)
 * There were some $30 billion estimates, don't know if those are reliable though. Damage in Central America turned out to be about US$100 million. Death toll remains the same for now. ~ KN2731 {talk} 04:35, October 13, 2018 (UTC)

92L.INVEST
Another AOI, south of the Azores and already an invest, currently at 20/30. ~ Roy25    Talk  |  Contributions     23:57, October 06, 2018 (UTC)
 * 30/30 now.  ~ Roy25     Talk  |  Contributions     17:03, October 07, 2018 (UTC)


 * Down to 10/10.YellowSkarmory (talk) 23:27, October 7, 2018 (UTC)
 * 0/0. Nadine might come from the Cape Verde AOI. Anonymous 2.0 (talk) 13:36, October 8, 2018 (UTC)
 * Dead and off the TWO.  ~ Roy25     Talk  |  Contributions     18:23, October 08, 2018 (UTC)

AOI: South of Cabo Verde
Hopefully I did this right. Looks like it's at 20/30 right now, south of Cabo Verde. Don't think it's an invest.YellowSkarmory (talk) 23:27, October 7, 2018 (UTC)
 * Guess this would become Nadine instead of 92L. Hopefully not as destructive as the other Cape Verde-type hurricanes. Anonymous 2.0 (talk) 03:17, October 8, 2018 (UTC)

Conditions are semi-decent for development in the near-future, but are expected to become unfavorable near the eastern Caribbean. It's possible that waves like this could become something if they reach the EPac down the road though. Conditions are favorable enough for one or two more good storms to form over there after Sergio. Ryan1000 08:57, October 8, 2018 (UTC)

93L.INVEST
Now an invest, and up to 50/60. ~ Roy25    Talk  |  Contributions     18:23, October 08, 2018 (UTC)
 * Up to 70/80. We could see Nadine here.  ~ Roy25     Talk  |  Contributions     23:49, October 08, 2018 (UTC)


 * This is developing in a similar region to where Nadine's 2012 incarnation first developed. However, this one should be much shorter lived due to strong upper-level winds by late week. Probably going to be a failure name-stealer... ~ <font face="Impact"> Steve   Talk Page  My Edits  📧  04:55, October 9, 2018 (UTC)

Tropical Depression Fifteen
And it is now a TD. This will [sadly (?)] become Nadine. Anonymous 2.0 (talk) 10:13, October 9, 2018 (UTC)

Tropical Storm Nadine
And it stole Nadine. Anonymous 2.0 (talk) 14:37, October 9, 2018 (UTC)
 * It's actually forecast to reach 50 mph, so maybe it could be a stronger tropical storm rather than just a pathetic name stealer. ~ <font face="Impact"> Steve   Talk Page  My Edits  📧  19:55, October 9, 2018 (UTC)
 * With Nadine being named, 2018 has 3 active named storm this late in the calendar year since from what I've heard, 1950. 2018 is giving us more surprises now with Nadine being a rare October MDR storm.  ~ Roy25     Talk  |  Contributions     21:13, October 09, 2018 (UTC)

45 mph/1003 mb.YellowSkarmory (talk) 02:45, October 10, 2018 (UTC)


 * Yeah, I think the folks in Florida would gladly trade storms right now. Beatissima (talk) 03:56, October 10, 2018 (UTC)

This storm is a disgraceful decendant of the 2012 Nadine, a near-record long-lived storm. Only thing it gets credit for is the fact it formed in the MDR in October, but still, it's gonna be a short-lived fishie. Ryan1000 03:58, October 10, 2018 (UTC)
 * Guess she's being polite and doesn't want to steal Leslie's thunder. Beatissima (talk) 04:12, October 10, 2018 (UTC)
 * Or maybe, Nadine passed the crown to Leslie this time. Anonymous 2.0 (talk) 06:35, October 10, 2018 (UTC)
 * Might not be such a disgrace. Shorter-lived than last time, almost certainly, but the 12z ATCF brings Nadine up to 55 kts/997 mbar, an intensity that wasn't even in the NHC forecast until the 5am advisory. Could we potentially end up with three simultaneously active Atlantic hurricanes in October? --Dylan (HurricaneMaker99) 12:55, October 10, 2018 (UTC)

Hmm...seems Nadine is putting on a better show than I thought. However, shear seems to be taking a toll on Nadine lately and a lot of the convection seems displaced east of the center now. If this becomes a hurricane...looks like I may eat my words, and that would make Nadine one of only a small handful of hurricanes in the open tropical Atlantic during October, along with Tomas of 2010 and Kate of 2003, to name a few. Ryan1000 20:56, October 10, 2018 (UTC)
 * The headline of the latest advisory is something along the lines of "Nadine losing organization and expected to weaken," but hey, she put in a good effort. --Dylan (HurricaneMaker99) 21:55, October 10, 2018 (UTC)
 * I am kinda hoping that Nadine will merge with Leslie this time, but that will not happen (most likely). Not bad for a storm that was expected to remain weak though; like what everyone above said, Nadine defied expectations as she peaked at 65 mph. Anonymous 2.0 (talk) 07:19, October 11, 2018 (UTC)
 * I highly doubt such a merger is going to happen. Nadine exceeded our expectations and actually became a strong tropical storm. Nice job, Nadine. It has weakened to 60 mph and shear will get the best of Nadine in the next few days, making it the opposite of its previous incarnation longevity-wise. ~ <font face="Impact"> Steve   Talk Page  My Edits  📧  17:11, October 11, 2018 (UTC)

And she's gone. See you in 2024, Nadine. Beatissima (talk) 02:38, October 13, 2018 (UTC)

Remnants of Nadine
"No more Nadine" sayeth the NHC, lol. --Dylan (HurricaneMaker99) 02:51, October 13, 2018 (UTC)

AOI: Western Caribbean Sea/North of Panama II
So this just showed up behind Michael. 0/20 for now. Beatissima (talk) 21:29, October 9, 2018 (UTC)
 * 0/30 now.YellowSkarmory (talk) 02:50, October 10, 2018 (UTC)
 * 0/40. Beatissima (talk) 05:40, October 10, 2018 (UTC)
 * I hope future Oscar won't be as bad as Michael. Anonymous 2.0 (talk) 06:34, October 10, 2018 (UTC)
 * 0/50. Anonymous 2.0 (talk) 14:08, October 10, 2018 (UTC)

Still 0/50, but may only peak as a TD as it is expected to move to the west towards Belize. Oscar may have to wait. Anonymous 2.0 (talk) 07:16, October 11, 2018 (UTC)


 * Unless it is a weak name-stealer like Hanna '14 or even enters the Bay of Campeche in the long term. At least this probably won't be a re-Michael, but Mexico and Central America should still watch out. ~ <font face="Impact"> Steve   Talk Page  My Edits  📧  17:14, October 11, 2018 (UTC)
 * Down to 0/40. I hope this system won't bring much damage to Central America. Anonymous 2.0 (talk) 20:21, October 11, 2018 (UTC)
 * And down to 0/30. Beatissima (talk) 01:56, October 12, 2018 (UTC)
 * And it completely went bust. 0/0 now. This will be off the TWO soon and Oscar will wait. Anonymous 2.0 (talk) 18:03, October 12, 2018 (UTC)
 * Off the TWO. Send Help Please  (talk) 03:02, October 13, 2018 (UTC)

Retirements at a Glance
I added this section, as we are already well into the season despite the fact that only 3 storms have formed so far. Anonymous 2.0 (talk) 17:01, July 31, 2018 (UTC)

A2.0's Atlantic retirement forecast

 * Alberto - 5% - Caused disruption, but nothing significant really.
 * Beryl - 5% - A spectacle, regenerated a la Harvey, scared Maria-battered Puerto Rico, yet only inflicted minimal damage.
 * Chris - 2% - 2% for being a Category 2 in the cooler waters of the northern Atlantic, but other than that... nothing notable.
 * Debby - 0.1% - Yeah, I gave that .1 for forming in cool waters. But no, Debby will definitely return in 2024.
 * Ernesto - 0.2% - Debby 2.0. I only gave that 0.2 percent due to the fact that Ernesto lasted longer than Debby. However, Ernesto will most likely return in 2024.
 * Florence - 100% - Let the flood damage in The Carolinas speak for itself. Sixth costliest Atlantic hurricane on record; there is no way for Florence to dodge retirement.
 * Gordon - 3% - Affected land but did not cause a lot of damage.
 * Helene - 2% - Caused 3 deaths as an extratropical system in UK, but impacts are negligible.
 * Isaac - 1.5% - Guess the "I" curse gave way for the "M" curse this year; Isaac will be back in 2024. Minor impacts reported but not enough to merit retirement.
 * Joyce - 0.25% - That 0.25% is purely a consolation, as Joyce became the 5th subtropical storm of the season (although eventually became tropical).
 * Kirk - 0% - Let's be real, this is a forgettable storm.
 * Leslie - TBD - Lengthy Lingering Leslie is basically Never Say Die Nadine 2012's successor. Let's see whether Leslie will eventually affect land.
 * Michael - 100% - Still active but will definitely get axed in spring.
 * Nadine - TBD - May not be as strong and long-lasting as the 2012 one, but became a strong TS. Also has a small chance to merge with Leslie (lowkey hoping for it).

That's all for now.

Originally posted by Anonymous 2.0 (talk) 17:01, July 31, 2018 (UTC). Last updated by Anonymous 2.0 (talk) 07:13, October 11, 2018 (UTC).

joestar's retirement home
yare yare daze (talk) 17:36, August 8, 2018 (UTC)
 * alby (5%) : "lolololol florida i'm gonna destroy you like irma" -was a subtropical storm-
 * bez (2%) : "weeeeeee i'm a baby hurricane i am gonna weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee"
 * chris (0%) : "look at me i can pull stunts like the chris-tal ball in 2014 and i can be better than him haha"
 * debby (-420%) : hell naw
 * anesuto (clannad%) : i didn't feel anything from this f-cker as he went past the uk LOL!
 * flossie (∞%) : OF COURSE THIS B-TCH BE GOING. WORSE THAN THAT F-CKER FLOYD WHO HIT HIMSELF LIKE A THROWN BRICK ON NC'S SEAWALL. BE GONE THOT. GOODBYE TO YOU AND YOUR TWISTED MACHINE YOU HURRICANE DRUNK THOT
 * gordon (5%) : ramsay's mouth was the gulf coast and he thinks the taste of clouds is too bland to warrant a retirement
 * helene (0%) : i literally flew into helene and ali upon return from germany, plus when i was in spain i got a bit of her lightning, and saw some sh-tty surf from the nw portuguese coast. dindunuffin.
 * i suck (0%) : lol no
 * joyce (0%) : ur mom lole

Steve's predictions and grades
See "notes" (at the very bottom) for explanations of some stuff.

Intensity colors: <font color="#5ebaff">TD, <font color="#00faf4">TS , <font color="#ffffcc">C1 , <font color="#ffe775">C2 , <font color="#ffc140">C3 , <font color="#ff8f20">C4 , <font color="#ff6060">C5 , <font color="#905">200+ mph

Retirement percentage colors: 0% or N/A, <font color="#77A">0.001-0.4% , <font color="#44C">0.5-0.9% , 1-4% , <font color="#05F">5%-9% , <font color="#0AF">10-14% , <font color="#0FF">15-19% , <font color="#0F8">20-24% , <font color="#0F0">25-29% , <font color="#3F0">30-34% , <font color="#6F0">35-39% , <font color="#9F0">40-44% , <font color="#CF0">45-49% , 50% , <font color="#FC0">51-54% , <font color="#F90">55-59% , <font color="#F60">60-64% , <font color="#F30">65-69% , <font color="#F00">70-74% , <font color="#D01">75-79% , <font color="#B02">80-84% , <font color="#903">85-89% , <font color="#604">90-94% , <font color="#505">95-98% , <font color="#303">99-99.999% , <font color="#000">100% or TBA

Grading colors: <font color="#033">EO+, <font color="#055">EO , <font color="#077">A++ , <font color="#096">A+ , <font color="#0C3">A , <font color="#0F0">A- , <font color="#3F0">B+ , <font color="#6F0">B , <font color="#9F0">B- , <font color="#CF0">C+ , <font color="#FF0">C , <font color="#FC0">C- , <font color="#F90">D+ , <font color="#F60">D , <font color="#F30">D- , <font color="#F00">E , <font color="#C00">F , <font color="#900">F- , <font color="#600">Z , <font color="#300">Z- , <font color="#000">TBA

Potential tropical cyclones (PTCs) not included.
 * <font color="#00faf4">Alberto :
 * Retirement: <font color="#05F">8% - Just >$125 million in damage and 12 deaths should not convince the U.S. to give Alberto the boot. This is nothing compared to very bad storms America experienced in the past, such as Harvey or Katrina. Usually, retirements in the U.S. have a damage bill of at least $1 billion.
 * Grading: <font color="#F60">D - Some credit given for its pre-season formation. However, the fact that it remained subtropical for almost its whole life (through peak intensity and landfall) prevents the grade from being higher than this.


 * <font color="#ffffcc">Beryl :
 * Retirement: 3% - The relatively light impacts it caused were in-between lives as a remnant low. The regions it impacted have seen much worse last year. Even the hardest-hit regions (like the Dominican Republic) have seen much worse in the past.
 * Grading: <font color="#6F0">B - The grade is boosted for its rapid intensification in the MDR so early in the year, and for being the first "Hurricane Beryl" ever. As a bonus, it briefly regenerated east of the East Coast. However, its small size meant it had potential to get even stronger in the MDR.


 * <font color="#ffe775">Chris :
 * Retirement: 1% - It did cause a death due to rough seas and impacted Canada as an extratropical system. That isn't enough to even think about retirement though.
 * Grading: <font color="#6F0">B - Did a nice job at the C2 part.


 * <font color="#00faf4">Debby :
 * Retirement: 0% - Completely out to sea.
 * Grading: <font color="#C00">F - Stole a name off the list, but I have to say it performed better than I expected (by reaching 50 mph).


 * <font color="#00faf4">Ernesto :
 * Retirement: 0% - I believe the only impacts it ever caused were in the UK and Ireland as a post-tropical system. It was a complete fishspinner while tropical. That certainly won't ever earn it retirement.
 * Grading: <font color="#C00">F - Although it was weaker than Debby, it stayed tropical unusually far north.


 * <font color="#ff8f20">FLORENCE :


 * RETIREMENT: <font color="#000">100% - FLORENCE WILL BE GONE BECAUSE OF ITS CATASTROPHIC EAST COAST DEVASTATION. DAMAGES ARE ESTIMATED TO BE AT LEAST $38 BILLION SO FAR, WHICH PUTS IT AT LEAST AT #6 ON THE COSTLIEST ATLANTIC HURRICANES ON RECORD, AND IT WAS QUITE DEADLY TOO. THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO WAY THIS WILL BE SNUBBED. SAY GOODBYE TO THE FINAL ORIGINAL "F" NAME AND THE LONGEST LASTING ATLANTIC NAME ON RECORD (FIRST USED IN 1953).
 * GRADING: <font color="#0C3">A - WOW, WHAT AN AMAZING LONG-LIVED STORM THAT EVEN RI'D IN THE FACE OF MARGINAL CONDITIONS EARLIER IN ITS LIFESPAN. UNFORTUNATELY, THE IMPACTS TO THE U.S. KNOCK THE GRADE DOWN QUITE A BIT.


 * <font color="#00faf4">Gordon :
 * Retirement: <font color="#05F">5% - So far, it killed 2 people which is much less than Alberto. Damages are still unreleased, but hopefully it wasn't too severe.
 * Grading: <font color="#F60">D - Became a strong tropical storm, near hurricane strength. The fact that it peaked just under hurricane strength isn't a big deal considering how it was threatening the Gulf Coast.


 * <font color="#ffe775">Helene :
 * Retirement: 3% - Hit the Cape Verdes and the Azores, and later on Great Britain as an extratropical system, but I highly doubt impacts were severe enough to even consider retirement. Unfortunately, it caused 3 deaths.
 * Grading: <font color="#CF0">C+ - It got very close to hitting major status, but unfortunately flunked it. But this wasn't expected to get very powerful anyway.


 * <font color="#ffffcc">Isaac :
 * Retirement: <font color="#44C">0.5% - Any impacts in the Windward Islands were meager.
 * Grading: <font color="#F60">D - Fell below initial expectations, but at least it still became a hurricane.


 * <font color="#00faf4">Joyce :
 * Retirement: 0% - If excluding any very meager impacts in the Azores, this was a complete fishspinner. Joyce has no choice but to return in 2024.
 * Grading: <font color="#C00">F - Another fail like Debby and Ernesto earlier this year.


 * <font color="#5ebaff">Eleven :
 * Retirement: N/A - no name
 * Grading: <font color="#600">Z - Pathetic flop that developed too late. But let's be glad a name wasn't stolen.


 * <font color="#00faf4">Kirk :
 * Retirement: 1% - I doubt it was too bad, probably a re-Isaac for the Windwards.
 * Grading: <font color="#F00">E - Gets points for regenerating and peaking at 60 mph in its second life.


 * <font color="#ffffcc">Leslie :
 * Retirement: <font color="#000">TBA - Currently active. Retirement prediction will be released once it dissipates.
 * Grading: <font color="#000">TBA - Currently active. Grade will be released once it dissipates.


 * <font color="#ff8f20">Michael :
 * Retirement: <font color="#000">TBA - Currently active. Retirement prediction will be released once it dissipates.
 * Grading: <font color="#000">TBA - Currently active. Grade will be released once it dissipates.


 * <font color="#00faf4">Nadine :
 * Retirement: <font color="#000">TBA - Currently active. Retirement prediction will be released once it dissipates.
 * Grading: <font color="#000">TBA - Currently active. Grade will be released once it dissipates.

Notes: Intensity colors -
 * Based off of the SSHWS, except for the 200+ mph color.
 * I still use "TD" due to the inclusion of grading (they cannot be retired). So it would be wrong for TD to be considered redundant in this case because TDs are still included for grading only.
 * I wanted to give special recognition for cyclones reaching insane intensities by introducing a new color for those that reach the "200 Club." Of course, very few storms will ever receive this color.

Retirement percentage colors -
 * "N/A", which is gray like 0%, is most often used for tropical depressions, which are usually not named and thus cannot have a name retired. Other unnamed storms receive "N/A" as well.
 * "TBA", which is black like 100%, is used for currently active storms or recently dissipated storms without a definite percentage of retirement yet. "TBA" is also used for grading when a system is currently active.
 * 0% and 100% are estimated percentages, in which they don't necessarily mean that it is absolutely certain that a storm name will or won't be retired. Unless it is the PAGASA basin (which has retirement requirements), there will always still be an infinitesimally small chance of retirement (for 0%) or non-retirement (for 100%).
 * New for 2018: My scale comes in ranges now instead of individual percentages. This allows me to use any percentage now instead of having to restrict myself to individual percentages. Any percentage within a range (like from 1-4%) uses the same color (in this example, blue). The range also includes decimals and goes slightly beyond what is shown as the "highest" number in my scale. The actual highest limit to the range earlier described is 4.99999...% (I don't round up to the next range). Those upper limit decimals are not included in my scale in order to preserve space.
 * Different fonts indicate how likely a storm is to be retired. The whole entry of the storm is bolded, italicized, underlined, or capitalized depending on my retirement prediction. For low or nil-chance storms (0% to 24%), only the colored components (storm's name, percentage, and grade) are bolded and the rest of the entry is plain-text. For 25% to 49%, the whole entry is bolded. For 50% to 74%, the whole entry is both bolded and italicized. For 75% to 99.999%, the whole entry is bolded, italicized, and underlined. 100% entries are bolded, italicized, underlined, and capitalized.

Grading colors -
 * EO = "Extraordinarily Outstanding". This is beyond "A", when a TC is so good that it deserves special recognition. Add a "+" to emphasize the best and most outstanding TCs that have ever occurred in history (such as Patricia '15 or John '94). I try to avoid giving this rating to catastrophic storms due to the fact that catastrophe knocks down a storm's reputation, and it would seem insensitive to give such storms a high rating. An EO+ storm has requirements that are stricter than EO: it has to be a fishspinner (or, if affecting land, not cause very significant damage or deaths, which means no Haiyan, Wilma, Irma, etc.) and it has to be very near records (I'd say top 3), tie, or break records relating to powerful intensity, longevity, or how unusual it is. If the achievement is one of the latter two, an EO+ storm has to peak as a major (C3+ on the SSHWS). An exception to the major rule could occur if a storm is INSANELY long-lived or unusual. For example: a tropical system that literally forms in the Arctic Ocean/right on the equator/Antarctic/far inland/other extremely strange spots, or a storm that lasts months would almost always be deserving of "EO+".
 * Z = If the grading scale were to go down the same pattern as A to F, it would go to G, H, etc. and would eventually have to stop at "Z". All the in between letters from G to Y are skipped because it would be way too much, redundant and unnecessary. "Z" is the letter assigned to the worst of the worst, and such storms would be considered epic failures and unmemorable because of a lack of land effects. If I gave a highly impacting storm a Z, it might seem insensitive because the storm actually did something. Add a "-" to the grade to emphasize the worst epic failures that ever occurred in history. Specific requirements for the Z- storm are as follows: Fishspinner (or barely affecting land) due to lack of memorability, peaks at no more than 40 mph, lasts no longer than one day, or is downgraded from a TS to a TD or worse in post-analysis while still named. Although weak named TSs receive Z- on occasion, even fishspinning TDs don't receive the Z- grade that often because, in my opinion, stealing a precious name is a worse offense than remaining unnamed. If a system is named, more should be expected out of it.
 * Except for the extreme grades and "E", this scale is obviously based off of the educational grading system.

~ <font face="Impact"> Steve 🌞   Talk Page  My Edits  📧  04:20, August 1, 2018 (UTC) (last updated 17:17, October 11, 2018 (UTC))

TG's Retirement Predictions
Welcome to my fourth annual retirement prediction, the first year that I have dropped the colors since 2015. This year I will just make it simple and easy, without it taking 5 minutes to get the right color for each storm.


 * Alberto - 10%: 10% might be a little too high, but Alberto is definitely not worthy of retirement.
 * Beryl - 0%: I seriously think this storm is overrated, to be honest. It didn't do much, and it was a classic weak MDR cyclone that occasionally happen on the edge of the MDR.
 * Chris - 1%: Chris killed one person, unfortunately, but it won't be enough for a retirement. Classic subtropics hurricane. T  G  2 0 1 8 17:00, August 1, 2018 (UTC)

KN2731's storm grades & retirements
Adding mine too. Color scheme is up for the second straight year.

Grades:  A, B , C , D , E , F . These grades go by meteorological statistics alone, and do not reflect my opinion of any deaths or destruction that occurs; for that refer to the appended descriptions and retirement chances.

Retirements: <font color="#808080">0%, <font color="#FF007F">5% , <font color="#FF00FF">10% , <font color="#7F00FF">15% , <font color="#0000FF">20% , <font color="#0080FF">25% , <font color="#00FFFF">30% , <font color="#00FF80">35% , <font color="#00FF00">40% , <font color="#80FF00">50% , <font color="#FFFF00">60% , <font color="#FF8000">70% , <font color="#FF0000">80% , <font color="#990000">90% , <font color="#330000">100% .


 * Alberto – grade  A , retirement <font color="#7F00FF">15% . Early surprise to maintain a 4-year streak of preseason storms. Bonus points for transitioning to a tropical cyclone inland and surviving as far north as Michigan. Retirement is unlikely, however.
 * Beryl – grade  A , retirement <font color="#FF007F">5% . Cute little midget MDR hurricane. Even managed to hang on and have a second stint as a subtropical storm. Simply amazing.
 * Chris – grade  C , retirement <font color="#FF007F">5% . Decent fish, unfortunately one death.
 * Debby – grade  F , retirement <font color="#808080">0% . "Debby" shouldn't have gone to this name thief.

~ KN2731 {talk}. Last updated: 10:07, August 10, 2018 (UTC).

Roy's Retirement Prediction
Intensity colors: <font color="#5ebaff">TD, <font color="#00faf4">TS , <font color="#ffffcc">C1 , <font color="#ffe775">C2 , <font color="#ffc140">C3 , C4 , <font color="#ff6060">C5 

Retirement percentages colors: 0%, 0.001-9% , 10-19% , 20-29% , 30-39% , <font color="#cf0">40-49% , 50% , <font color="#fe0">51-59% , <font color="#fc0">60-69% , 70-79% , <font color="#f70">80-89% , 90-99% , <font color="#500">100% , ???


 * <font color="#00faf4">Alberto ( 17% ) - A pre-season storm that continued the streak of years with pre-season storms, and transitioned to a tropical cyclone over Tennessee and made it as far as Michigan. It did some millions of damage and a couple of deaths, but the US won't retire this name
 * <font color="#ffffcc">Beryl ( 0.001% ) - A small hurricane in the MDR that became the first ever Hurricane Beryl. This won't be retired, but a little bit greater than 0% due to its effect on land while post-tropical
 * <font color="#ffe775">Chris ( 1% ) - A C2 that didn't really affect land other than claiming one live, but even that won't retire Chris
 * <font color="#00faf4">Debby ( 0% ) - Weak storm that stayed out to sea
 * <font color="#00faf4">Ernesto ( 0% ) - Same as Debby, but did stay tropical really far north
 * <font color="#ff8f20">FLORENCE (<font color="#500">100% ) - A long lasting storm that devastated the Carolinas, and caused an estimated $17 billion as well as claiming 40 lives so far. Say good-bye to the last remaining original "F" name in the Atlantic.
 * <font color="#00faf4">Gordon ( 1% ) - A relatively quick storm that almost became a hurricane, but only caused 2 deaths as of now.
 * <font color="#ffe775">Helene ( 0.01% ) - A nice storm that originally threatened the Azores but hadn't. Only claimed 3 lives.
 * <font color="#ffffcc">Isaac ( 0.001% ) - A small storm that did nothing tot he Lesser Antilles, and claimed no lives
 * <font color="#00faf4">Joyce ( 0% ) - Pretty much a weak fish
 * <font color="#00faf4">Kirk ( 0.001% ) - A pretty weak storm that impacted the Leeward Islands at the end of it's life, but other than that, nothing
 * <font color="#ffffcc">Leslie (???) - Currently active
 * <font color="#ffc140">Michael (???) - Currently active
 * <font color="#00faf4">Nadine (???) - Currently active

NOTE:
 * 1) Should I give a tropical cyclone name a retirement chance of 50% and above, then that tropical cyclone name will be all caps.
 * 2) The triple question marks on my retirement percentage scale is only used as placeholders on an active storm.
 * 3) Storms that exits a basin and enters another basin would not have their own retirement predictions in that basin it entered, instead will have it in the basin of origin.

~ Roy25    Talk  |  Contributions     17:49, August 08, 2018 (UTC) Last updated on 21:09, October 9, 2018 (UTC)

Lee’s retirements
We’ve had only 4 systems, but it is August, so I might as well start this. Leeboy100 Hello!! 03:54, August 9, 2018 (UTC)
 * Alberto- 10%: Caused 12 deaths, and some impacts, but I don’t see him going anywhere.
 * Beryl- 2%: First ever Hurricane Beryl, and it came in the form of a cute little mini-hurricane. Did cause flash flooding in Puerto Rico and other areas recovering from Irma and Maria from last year, but thankfully wasn’t too bad and caused no fatalities.
 * Chris- 3%: Did cause some impacts in Newfoundland, and unfortunately one death. Not enough for retirement though.
 * Debby- 0%: Nope.
 * Ernesto- 0%: Ditto.
 * Florence- 100%: Damages potentially well over $20 billion, 41 deaths so far. Our last original F name is definitely gone after this year. (Replacement names: Fern, Frieda, Faith.)
 * Gordon- 5%: 3 deaths and quite a bit of flooding, but I don’t see him going anywhere.
 * Helene- 5%: 3 deaths from the precursor wave, I expect it to stay.
 * Isaac- 0%: Unlike the last original F name, our last original I name won’t be going anywhere, even though he probably should have been retired in 2012.
 * Joyce- 0%: Didn’t do any harm.
 * Kirk- 0%: Didn’t live long or prosper
 * Lingering Leslie- STILL Currently active
 * Michael- 100%: Still active, but with Michael being the third most intense hurricane to make landfall in the US, and with some of the damage photos I’ve seen from it, Michael is definitely gone after this year. Outside of the US, 9 fatalities were caused by the storm in Central America. The Florida Panhandle has never seen a storm of this magnitude before. Michael is very likely costlier than Hurricane Ivan was in the Panhandle, and therefore will likely be the costliest hurricane on record in this part of Florida. The areas around Michael’s landfall are disaster areas now, and Michael will, without question, be out after this year. (Replacement choices: Marcel, Mark or Marcus, Mason)
 * Nadine- Currently active

SHP's Grades and Retirement Predictions
Intensity colors: <font color="#5ebaff">TD , <font color="#00faf4">TS , <font color="#ffffcc">C1 , <font color="#ffe775">C2 , <font color="#ffc140">C3 , <font color="#ff8f20">C4 , <font color="#ff6060">C5 

Grade colors:  S ,  A+ ,  A ,  A- ,  B ,  C ,  D ,  E ,  F ,  Failippe 

Note: Impact to land has no affect on grade, aside from S rank, which is reserved for fishspinners.


 * <font color="#00faf4">Alberto : Grade:  C  - Retirement: 10% - Neat little pre-season surprise that went tropical inland and continued the pre-season storm streak that has been going since 2015. Gets 10% for around $125 million in damage and 12 total deaths.
 * <font color="#ffffcc">Beryl : Grade:  B  - Retirement: 1% - We finally got a Hurricane Beryl, in the form of an adorable little mini-cane that (mostly) spared the areas that were mauled last season. Bonus points for surprise regen though it was short lived.
 * <font color="#ffe775">Chris : Grade:  C  - Retirement: 2% - Gert 2.0
 * <font color="#00faf4">Debby : Grade:  F  - Retirement: lol no % - Nothing too notable about this one, aside from it starting this year's nrothern latitude subtropical storm trend.
 * <font color="#00faf4">Ernesto : Grade:  E  - Retirement: 0% - Basically Debby 2.0, but gains points for resilience.
 * <font color="#ff8f20">FLORENCE : Grade:  A  - Retirement: 100% - Early in her life, she looked to be an impressive fishspinner that RI'd ito a Cat. 4 in only marginal conditions. This was not to be her legacy though, as she would then make landfall in North Carolina and slow to a crawl a la Harvey. She then proceeded break rainfall records in both North and South Carolina, turn Wilmington into an island for a few days, cause at least 38 billion dollars in damage and kill over 50 people. After this season, she's gone, no doubt about it.
 * <font color="#00faf4">Gordon : Grade:  E  - Retirement: 5% - Almost reached hurricane status, but hit land before he could. Impacts were not that bad aside from the two deaths, which is why I'm giving him a lower retirement chance than Alberto.
 * <font color="#ffe775">Helene : Grade:  B  - Retirement: 3% - Got a bit stonger than expected, didn't do much other than cause the deaths of 3 people.
 * <font color="#ffffcc">Isaac : Grade:  D  - Retirement: 1% - Unremarkable MDR Cat 1, didn't have the cuteness or regen bonus of Beryl.
 * <font color="#5ebaff">Eleven : Grade:  F  - Retirement: N/A - I honestly forgot about it's existence from a few days after it formed to the time of me typing this. That goes to show how forgettable this system was. At least it didn't steal a name.
 * <font color="#00faf4">Joyce : Grade:  F  - Retirement: 0% - Yet another northern latitude subtropical storm.
 * <font color="#00faf4">Kirk : Grade:  E  - Retirement: 1% - Saved from F rank by the regen, didn't do much in the Caribbean.
 * <font color="#ffffcc">Leslie : Grade: ??? - Retirement: ??? - Still active, might hit... Portugal? WTF?!
 * <font color="#ff8f20">MICHAEL : Grade:  A+  - Retirement: 100% - Absolutely blew intensity forecasts out of the water, coming just a hair shy of Category 5 status. Unfortunately. he had go and make landfall at this incredible intensity, reducing areas in the landfall area to rubble and causing $8.1 billion (as of right now, the final damage total will probably be much higher). Worst of all, many people, as many 285 in Mexico Beach alone, chose to stay and ride out the storm, and, well, it would take a miracle to survive this . Michael's impacts in Central America and Cuba cannot go unstated either, with him causing 15 deaths in the former region. Michael is gone after this season, no question.
 * <font color="#00faf4">Nadine : Grade:  E  - Retirement: 0% - Hit 65 mph againt expectations, so she wasn't a complete failure. Still nothing compared to her 2012 incarnation though.

Will be added on to as needed. Send Help Please (talk) 08:10, August 10, 2018 (UTC)

IbAHAn1829tree's Name Retirement Chances
Sincerely, IbAHAn1829, and stay safe! \(:-D)Chat/Ta ta! 11:01, August 15, 2018 (UTC) Updated October 10, 2018.
 * Tropical Storm Alberto - 0.5% : Became tropical over land, caused some damage and, sadly, deaths.
 * Category 1 Beryl - 0% : First HURRICANE Beryl ever, did nothing.
 * Category 2 Chris - 0.01 % : Did nothing but take the life of 1, sadly.
 * Tropical Storm Debby - 0% : A fail, but at least it became a named storm.
 * Tropical Storm Ernesto - 0% : Another fail, the Atlantic storms this year seem to like the water up north for some reason.
 * Category 4 Florence - Bye% : Mass flooding in the Carolinas, possibly more than $10 billion $30 billion in damage, and 53 deaths (as of 10/07/2018). Bye, Florence.
 * Tropical Storm Gordon - 0.5% : Did some things to the gulf coast, sadly taking the lives of two.
 * Category 2 Helene - 0% : Almost became a major hurricane and is forecast to affect the Azores Islands.
 * Category 1 Isaac - 0.000000000000000001% : Weak hurricane that did stuff to the Caribbean islands. I highly doubt this will get retired.
 * Tropical Storm Joyce - 0% : Why did this fail even exist...
 * Tropical Storm Kirk - 0% : Will affect the Caribbean later on.
 * Category 1 Leslie - 0% : And it just keeps going and going and going and going and going...
 * Category 4 Michael - Away% : Will be retired. Bye, Michael.
 * Tropical Storm Nadine - 0% : Did nothing but spin fish.

Ryan1000's Retirement Predictions
Never thought this year's AHS would kick up as fast as it did...it's a shame that we got a severe storm for the U.S. this year, after last year. For now, though: That's it...for now. Ryan1000 16:58, September 1, 2018 (UTC)
 * Alberto - 10% - Made 2018 the fourth consecutive AHS to start early, and was the second consecutive incarnation of Alberto to do so as well. But with 125 million in damage and 12 deaths, I have to give him some credit for impact.
 * Beryl - 1% - Defied expectations and become a tiny hurricane in the open Atlantic and came back later on as a subtropical storm, but Bery's effects on land were minimal at most.
 * Chris - 1% - Killed a person from rip currents and caused some minor damage in Newfoundland. Nothing too much.
 * Debby - 0% - Shortest-lived and weakest storm of the season. Fail.
 * Ernesto - 0% - Debby 2.0.
 * Florence - 100% - Caused catastrophic flooding in North Carolina that ranks Florence 8th among the top 10 wettest tropical cyclones in U.S. history, not to mention the damage was recently buffed to at least 45 billion dollars, which, if confirmed, would make Flo the 6th costliest hurricane in U.S. history (7th costliest if you count inflation into today's dollars because of Andrew, and undoubtedly the costliest in North Carolina's history), and at least 48 people were killed, mostly in North Carolina. So our last original "F" name is as good as gone after this year.
 * Gordon - 5% - Killed at least 2 people, with some minor damage from inland flooding.
 * Helene - 2% - Precursor wave killed 3 people, with some minor effects in Cape Verde and the Azores, but nothing else.
 * Isaac - 1% - Caused minor rainfall in the Lessers, but Isaac dissipated in the Caribbean and he will come back in 2024. Our last original "I" retired name will have to wait for some other day.
 * Joyce - 0% - Didn't even affect the Azores...so see you in 6 years.
 * Kirk - 1% - Passed through the Lessers as a minor TS, but with little impacts, like Isaac and Beryl.
 * Leslie - ?? - Former (sub)tropical fishspinner right now, but could impact the Canary Islands or Morocco, and the Iberian Peninsula could get a rare landfall from this too.
 * Michael - 100% - Almost completely destroyed Panama City and surrounding areas as a massive, top-end 155 mph category 4 monster storm, so there's absolutely no way Michael won't be retired next spring.
 * Nadine - 0% - Still active, but I doubt it'll affect land.

Retirement predictions from Nut
Not a regular user here, but since we're well into the peak of the season and the fact that the Atlantic has shot up in activity, I'll do my retirements. Nutfield001 (talk) 16:32, September 11, 2018 (UTC)
 * Alberto - 15% - A pre-season storm (fourth consecutive one) that only did minor damage in the Gulf Coast. Impressed that the Atlantic can crank up another pre-season storm. The Atlantic will fail after 2018.
 * Beryl - 1% - Can't imagine retirement as impacts were negligible. Its intensification to a hurricane was impressive given cool waters in the MDR and it also defied initial forecasts.
 * Chris - 2.5% - Minimal impacts overall which killed a person thanks to its rip currents.
 * Debby - 0% - An unusual storm that formed far north, a borderline fail but not exactly a fail due to its formation location.
 * Ernesto - 1% - Unlike others, I'm not calling this a fail as it stayed tropical unusually far north. Minimal damages (if any) equal no retirement unless the Daily Express gets its hands on the retirement system.
 * Florence - TBC - First major hurricane of the season which is currently posing a major threat to the Carolinas. Retirement percentage will be released once the storm dissipates.
 * Gordon - 5% - Near hurricane that hit land before it had to chance to become one. I kinda wish it became a hurricane, maybe it'll receive the Cindy 2005 treatment post-analysis. But then again, why would I wish hurricane intensity over a storm that poses a minor threat to land.
 * Helene - TBC - Currently an active near-major hurricane. She will most likely remain at sea after leaving minor effects in Cape Verde.
 * Isaac - TBC - Forecast to pass through the Lessers as a hurricane, but let's hope impacts are minor (it probably will be) as Maria 2017 was bad enough for Dominica.

Isaac's Oversimplified Predictions
-- <font face="Courier New">Isaac829 <font face="Courier New">E-Mail  01:48, October 12, 2018 (UTC)
 * Florence - 100% - Flooding still happening, but the damage will be in the billions.
 * Isaac - No.
 * Michael - 100% - Panhandle's Andrew.
 * Any other names - 0%

Retirement Chances from Owen
Owen 18:13, September 16, 2018 (UTC)
 * Alberto - 1% - Caused roughly $125 million worth in damages in the southeastern United States gives him credit where it's due but history tells us he will remain on the naming list.
 * Beryl - 0% - A true defier of every forecast and the second earliest MDR hurricane on record, but she's going to stay because of the lack of major affects.
 * Chris - 0% - A hurricane, which did impressed many and attained C2, that didn't really do anything notable enough to warrant retirement.
 * Debby - 0% - Not a chance in hell.
 * Ernesto - 0% - See Debby.
 * Florence - 100% - I was the first to write here previously about the report from Moody's Analytics that Hurricane Florence damages ranged anywhere from $17-22 billion. It now appears that damage is more excessive than originally anticipated and if true, places as Florence the seventh costliest hurricane in United States history. Even if the damages are closer to the previous report, it's extremely likely the U.S. will request the retirement of the name. Accordingly, I can now say it's safe to assume retirement will certainly occur. Goodbye Florence. (Replacement picks: Faith, Frieda, and Fern)
 * Gordon - 1% - Like Alberto, he fortunately, didn't really cause significant damages.
 * Helene - 1% - Wrought some minimal effects on Cabo Verde and Azores, and tried to throw on a show in the eastern Atlantic leading to her just barely missing out on major hurricane status.
 * Isaac - 1% - He lasted a bit longer than I expected him to and was one of three simultaneous hurricanes, so credit is due there, but it looks like Isaac is coming back in 2024.
 * Joyce - 0% - See Debby and Ernesto.
 * Kirk - 0% - I give him credit for being able to regenerate and become a moderate tropical storm, but it doesn't look like he did much in terms of impact in the Lesser Antilles.
 * Leslie - TBA - Leslie has been a headache for forecasters, but she's now aimed at Spain and Portugal as a potential hurricane. If that materializes, we will be in uncharted territory as far as modern times seeing that happen.
 * Michael - 100% - The third most intense hurricane to ever strike the United States will not be returning to the naming lists in 2024. Goodbye Michael. (Replacement picks: Marcus, Milo, and Malcolm)

Beatissima's retirement predictions

 * Definitely: C4 Florence, C4 Michael
 * Probably: ---
 * Likely: ---
 * Unlikely: SS Alberto
 * Probably not: TS Gordon, C2 Helene
 * Definitely not: C1 Beryl, C2 Chris, TS Debby, TS Ernesto, C1 Isaac, TS Joyce, TS Kirk, TS Nadine
 * N/A: TD Eleven

In progress:


 * C1 Eternicane Leslie: 2 weeks, 5 days, 12 hours and counting¹


 * Unused: Oscar, Patty, Rafael, Sara, Tony, Valerie, William, Greeks

¹Includes extratropical interim.

Beatissima (talk) 02:45, October 5, 2018 (UTC)

Skarmory's retirement predictions + grades
Grades:  S, <font color="#00F">A+ , <font color="#0CC">A , <font color="#0C3">A- , <font color="#0F0">B+ , <font color="#3F0">B , <font color="#6F0">B- , <font color="#9F0">C+ , <font color="#CF0">C , <font color="#FF0">C- , <font color="#FC0">D+ , <font color="#F60">D , <font color="#F30">D- , <font color="#C00">F , F-, <font color="#0000FF">TBD 
 * Alberto - 5% - <font color="#0C3">A-  - Shouldn't get retired, damages were pretty bad and there were some deaths though. Became tropical over Tennessee which earns it this high, but the land impacts drop it down to A-.
 * Beryl - 0.5% - <font color="#3F0">B  - No deaths and minimal damages. You'll be staying. However the regen portion was nice, and no deaths help its' grade.
 * Chris - 1% - <font color="#3F0">B  - 1 death and probably minimal damages. Only reason his retirement chances are higher than Beryl is because of the death. However he was a nice little C2 in the northern atlantic.
 * Debby - 0% - <font color="#C00">F  -  Fishspinner that did nothing except turn tropical.
 * Ernesto - 0% - <font color="#C00">F  - Fishspinner while tropical/subtropical that also did nothing except turn tropical.
 * Florence - 100% - <font color="#0C3">A- - Self-explanatory retirement chance. Devastating in the Carolinas, over 38 billion USD in damages estimated. Those damages knock it down to A-, but becoming the first major of the year and having an unusual track get it up this high.
 * Gordon - 2% - <font color="#FF0">C-  - 2 deaths, damages were probably not that bad. Very unlikely to be retired. Being a TS with an eye was cool though.
 * Helene - 2% - <font color="#CF0">C  - 3 deaths and impacts on Cabo Verde, damages unknown but also probably not that bad. Impacted europe while extratropical but that shouldn't affect anything. Becoming a C2 was cool, the effects were not quite as cool. Barely missed major status.
 * Isaac - 1% - <font color="#F60">D  - No deaths, unknown damages. Probably not very severe. Weak hurricane that didn't do too much gets it D rank.
 * Joyce - 0% - <font color="#C00">F  - Fishspinner, just like Debby/Ernesto in that it did nothing except turn tropical.
 * Eleven - 0% - <font color="#C00">F  - Can't be retired. Didn't do much of anything except form.
 * Kirk - 1% - <font color="#F60">D  - Same as Isaac. Didn't reach hurricane strength but did regen.
 * Leslie - TBD - Currently going on.
 * Michael - 100% - <font color="#0C3">A-  - Definitely gone, but that RI was incredible, impacts knock him down to A-. If he gets upgraded to C5 in post-analysis he'll be an A.
 * Nadine - TBD - Currently going on. YellowSkarmory (talk) 06:48, October 8, 2018 (UTC)

AnimationMaster's retirement predictions
Intensity colors: <font color="#5ebaff">TD, <font color="#00faf4">TS , <font color="#ffffcc">C1 , <font color="#ffe775">C2 , <font color="#ffc140">C3 , <font color="#ff8f20">C4 , <font color="#ff6060">C5 , <font color="#8b0000">C5 (185+ mph)

Retirement percentage colors: <font color="#666">0% or <font color="#666">N/A, <font color="#AFFFFF">0.001-0.9% , <font color="#00FFFF">1-9% , <font color="#00D5D5">10-19% , <font color="#00A0A0">20-29% , <font color="#00A000">30-39% , <font color="#FFC800">40-49% , <font color="#FF8800">50-59% , <font color="#E80000">60-69% , <font color="#B40000">70-79% , <font color="#800000">80-89% , <font color="#000000">90-99% , <font color="#000080">100% 

Grading colors:  S, A+++ , A++ , <font color="#00F">A+ , <font color="#0CC">A , <font color="#0C3">A- , <font color="#0F0">B+ , <font color="#3F0">B , <font color="#6F0">B- , <font color="#9F0">C+ , <font color="#CF0">C , <font color="#FF0">C- , <font color="#FC0">D+ , <font color="#F60">D , <font color="#F30">D- , <font color="#F00">E , <font color="#C00">F , <font color="#900">F- , <font color="#600">Z , <font color="#300">Z- , <font color="#0000FF">TBA 

Notes: AnimationMaster  (Talk |  Contributions)  00:30, October 8, 2018 (UTC)
 * Percentages/grades in italics indicate temporary ratings and would have yet to change.

Female "F" names (for Florence)
Since Florence caused major damage and many fatalities in North Carolina with her very heavy rains, strong surge, and locally high winds, the last original "F" name since 1979 is this season's first retirement candidate. So, what do you think will replace Florence? Here are some suggestions: These are some names that come to mind. Any other suggestions? Ryan1000 22:23, September 9, 2018 (UTC)
 * Faith
 * Fern
 * Fatima
 * Farrah
 * Frieda
 * Fannie
 * Fanya
 * Florita


 * Personally Farrah would be my favourite name to replace Florence but I do feel like Faith and Fern should be used first since they have been used previously. If I were to suggest other names they would be:


 * Fallon
 * Francesca
 * Francine
 * Fleur
 * Freya

--Whiplash (talk) 19:31, September 10, 2018 (UTC)


 * Frida/Frieda/Freda is my favorite to replace Florence (kinda like Fred, but since Julia/Julian exist here, I think it would be a good option). Federica, Farrah and Freya are also okay with me. Fanny, Fleur, Francine and Fern are also great. Other options may be Fiore, Flavia, Filomena, Felina and Fergie (although that may remind people either of the former duchess, the former football manager or the singer/rapper). But if they are gonna apply what they did to Katrina and Rita, I think Flo would be the front runner. Anonymous 2.0 (talk) 20:06, September 10, 2018 (UTC)

The government of France requested Frances to be removed in the RA IV hurricane committee after 2004 (but Frances was destructive enough on its own merit), so names similar to Frances, like Francine, Francesca, ect probably won't be picked, if France makes another request like they did for Frances. Ryan1000 20:52, September 10, 2018 (UTC)
 * Here are some more

Andros 1337 (talk) 22:56, September 10, 2018 (UTC)
 * Fergie
 * Fortuna
 * Fairy
 * Fina
 * Felicita


 * uhh


 * frida (this spelling only, the freida/freda spellings are minging and frida can also be used in spanish-speaking countries)
 * fabiola
 * francesca (but reminds me too much of fran, now aged 22 and regretting her drunken rampage across nc, flossie was like this b-tch, avoid bad omens!)
 * fatima (islamic name, similar to omar in 2020, #diversity)
 * faith (belch)
 * fleur (play that sax)
 * felicity
 * fanny (imagine if it hits the uk)
 * farrah (fawcett)
 * fabienne
 * frederica
 * frederike
 * fern (britton, lol)
 * fearne (cotton, better)
 * farryn
 * faelyn
 * fineena (irish name)
 * fauna
 * faustine
 * farzaneh (muslim)
 * finola (also irish)

my top pics would be frida, fanny, farrah, fabiola, fleur, fatima. --¡OIᗡ &#39;ƎW S∀M ⊥I (talk) 18:35, September 21, 2018 (UTC)
 * also why d'yall prefer the hideous spelling of freida

i need a vomit bucket right now it's frida --¡OIᗡ &#39;ƎW S∀M ⊥I (talk) 00:58, September 22, 2018 (UTC)
 * I honestly like Faith, Fatima, Farrah, Frieda, and Francine. ~ <font face="Impact"> Steve   Talk Page  My Edits  📧  06:54, September 23, 2018 (UTC)
 * BRUH it's FRIDA, not Freida! If they choose the latter spelling I NEED A FKKING VOMIT BUCKET AND TO BE SENT TO A&E ¡OIᗡ &#39;ƎW S∀M ⊥I (talk) 12:15, September 23, 2018 (UTC)

Calm it Rara. We all have different preferences of what names we like, no need to bash on others for having different opinions. As for me, Fri(e)da isn't my first pick, but it's an option nonetheless; I would like Farrah, Faith, Fleur, Fern, or Fatima. Ryan1000 12:31, September 23, 2018 (UTC)
 * And what Steve said is actually Frieda, not Freida. Anyway, I think Freda/Frida/Frieda is a strong candidate to replace Florence, but I am having a gut feel that they would just shorten Florence to Flo (I hope not, but it is still a possibility). Frauke may also replace Florence. Farrah, Freya and Faith are also likely. Anonymous 2.0 (talk) 13:13, September 23, 2018 (UTC)
 * lol! don't y'all understand that i'm not being serious and learn to take a joke? anyway frauke is cool too --¡OIᗡ &#39;ƎW S∀M ⊥I (talk) 21:59, September 23, 2018 (UTC)
 * As listed in my section, my top three names as replacements for Florence in order are Faith, Fern and Frieda. If I was to make a prediction based off of my gut - a form of Frieda is probably going to be the replacement. I don't see names such as Francine or Flo being selected because they are too similar to Fran and Florence, but you never know (eg. Frederic getting retired being replaced with Fabian, which in turn would also head toward retirement, only to be replaced with Fred). Owen 07:11, September 24, 2018 (UTC)

Felicia, Felice, Feodora, Flannery, Fleurette. Beatissima (talk)

Male "M" names (for Michael)
Having directly struck the Panhandle of Florida as a 155 mph category 4 monster and likely annihilated Panama City, Michael is our second guaranteed retirement candidate this year. So, what do you think will replace Michael? Here are some suggestions: My personal picks would be Mark/Marcus, Miles, Morris, or Micah (for the record, I copy/pasted most of this from Andros1337's suggestions for Matthew in 2016, except Martin, which did replace Matthew). Ryan1000 00:09, October 9, 2018 (UTC)
 * Mark
 * Marcus
 * Macario
 * Mariano
 * Maurizio
 * Mickey
 * Moriarty
 * Merrick
 * Morris
 * Malcolm
 * Mervyn
 * Merv
 * Marcelino
 * Marley
 * Mercer
 * Merlin
 * Miles
 * Micah
 * Milo
 * Maurice
 * Mac(k)
 * Melvin
 * Marvin
 * Marshall
 * My picks would be Marcus, Malcolm, Moriarty,  or (Bob) Marley.   Send Help Please (talk) 02:28, October 9, 2018 (UTC)


 * I'd like to see Mark, Marcus, Mack, Malcolm, Miles or Morris. In reality what I expect to replace Michael assuming he does get retired is something along the lines of Mack or Mickey, older names that aren't exactly the most common but decently common, fits along the theme of list 4. Mark is also a possibility. Maybe throw in Marvin/Maurice too. YellowSkarmory (talk) 03:17, October 10, 2018 (UTC)


 * Marcus, Morris/Maurice/Maurizio (Sarri?)/Mauricio (Pochettino?), Merlin, Marvin, Melvin. Those are my faves. But I think the replacement would be Mark, Mac(k), Mick/Mickey or Miles. Anonymous 2.0 (talk) 13:40, October 10, 2018 (UTC)


 * There are a lot of good M names to choose from. My picks are Marcel, Mark/Marc(us), or Mason. I’ve seen the name Max thrown around quite a bit too for a replacement. Max would be a good name, except for the fact that it’s already in use in the Pacific, and therefore can’t replace Michael. Leeboy100 Beware Michael’s Fury. 01:51, October 11, 2018 (UTC)
 * I would love to see Milo, Maxime, or Marlon personally. There are a lot of potential M names that could be chosen so we will just have to wait and see. --Whiplash (talk) 03:10, October 11, 2018 (UTC)

It's cool to see how the names on these lists are like time capsules from the years they were first chosen. There aren't too many people with names like Florence, Earl, Arlene or Gert anymore. I'd like to see retired names get replaced with names that are prevalent in the years they are chosen -- names that younger people can look at and go, "Hey, I have a hurricane!" There are lots of young men named Mason and Micah. I think those would be good picks. Beatissima (talk) 02:13, October 13, 2018 (UTC)

This is probably just me, but I really can't see "Marley" being used, and Send Help Please kind of said why. I get the feeling Jamaica would raise hell over the idea that a destructive force of nature would bear the same name as such a significant figure in their history. "Bob" was at least common enough of a name that some people can link it elsewhere. "Marley" is a little too on-the-nose. Jake52 (talk) 03:13, October 13, 2018 (UTC)

Post-Season Changes
The first TCR for the Atlantic this year was put up on the site yesterday, and it is for Beryl. Some changes were that Beryl formed a day earlier, and pressure was dropped from 994 to 991 mbars. ~ Roy25    Talk  |  Contributions     23:09, September 21, 2018 (UTC)


 * Slight change in the section on Beryl -- It dissipated on the 8th but regenerated on the 14th. These dissipation and regeneration dates weren't changed in the TCR. Ryan1000 06:58, September 22, 2018 (UTC)