Forum:2010 Atlantic Hurricane season/September

[edit]AoI: Coming off of Africa
Yet another wave is coming off of Africa. A couple of the models show some development from it. --Patteroast 13:18, September 1, 2010 (UTC)
 * Up on NHC at low risk, 10%. --Patteroast 16:36, September 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * 20%. Still, Gaston just fell apart, so... --Patteroast 13:20, September 3, 2010 (UTC)
 * 30% Hermine gonna follow her brother? Is she gonna be smart and not to try to form? atomic7732 23:14, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

[edit]99L.INVEST
Invest'd. Both this and ex-Gaston are on the Mariner's 1-2-3 rule graphic as danger areas. --Patteroast 01:39, September 4, 2010 (UTC)
 * The invest has become more spread out, risk is back down to 20% for now. --Patteroast 17:21, September 4, 2010 (UTC)
 * Ah, reduced to 10% shortly after I posted that... --Patteroast 17:58, September 4, 2010 (UTC)
 * And not even on NHC or NRL anymore. --Patteroast 09:23, September 5, 2010 (UTC)

[edit]10L.HERMINE
====[edit]AoI: Bay of Campeche/Remnants of 11E==== Some storms that seem to be pretty closely related to ex-depression 11E have been mentioned by NHC the last couple days. In 11E's final advisory, there was mention that some models develop something in the southern Gulf of Mexico... it's unclear whether it might be 11E itself or other nearby storms. Either way, there's a 20% risk right now. --Patteroast 17:28, September 4, 2010 (UTC)
 * And of course, right after I post that they up it to 30%. --Patteroast 17:58, September 4, 2010 (UTC)

[edit]90L.INVEST
Invest'd and up to 50% risk. --Patteroast 09:23, September 5, 2010 (UTC)
 * High risk, 60%. --Patteroast 13:10, September 5, 2010 (UTC)
 * It will be a new Depression since the invests been renumbered and the LLCC has dissipated.JasonRees 00:48, September 6, 2010 (UTC)
 * I figured. I can't say I've even seen them mention any connection to 11E. It's up to 80% now. --Patteroast 00:59, September 6, 2010 (UTC)

[edit]Tropical Depression Ten
Upgraded! Tropical storm warnings up to the Rio Grande. Forecast to become Hermine. --Patteroast 02:56, September 6, 2010 (UTC)

[edit]Tropical Storm Hermine
Upgrade on 5:00 UTC. --88.102.101.245 11:33, September 6, 2010 (UTC)
 * Interesting again. Formed out of 11-E's remnants in the East Pac, and now it could threaten Texas. At worst it could pull a Bret, but we have to wait to be sure. Ryan1000 15:06, September 6, 2010 (UTC)
 * Wow, this storm crossed over via the Isthmus of Tehuantepec and ended up in the Gulf. Model tracks have trended farther north in past 12 hours. 2007Astro'sHurricane 15:42, September 6, 2010 (UTC)
 * No, Hermine did not form from 11E, instead, it formed from a trough-split and TD11E's remnants just went over to that area. Hermine should make landfall tonight, and we should see some flooding in MX especially since they haven't fully recovered from Alex.Darren23Edits 22:15, September 6, 2010 (UTC)
 * I belive it partly formed from ex-11E and a trough split. YE Tropical Cyclone 00:43, September 7, 2010 (UTC)
 * Landfall. --Patteroast 03:13, September 7, 2010 (UTC)
 * Final advisory, over northern Texas. --Patteroast 12:35, September 8, 2010 (UTC)

[edit]AoI:Yet Another Wave
Wow... This could get serious. GFS has it forming upon contact with water. So does TAFB experimental. atomic7732 02:05, September 6, 2010 (UTC)
 * Jeff Masters on Wunderground mentioned this. Wonder how it will fare compared to 99L... --Patteroast 03:06, September 6, 2010 (UTC)
 * This wave scares me, really, I mean, there is a good chance it will form, a good chance it will be a hurricane and a very decent shot at major hurricane status. I will watch out for Igor in the next 5 days. Darren23Edits 03:12, September 6, 2010 (UTC)
 * I want a fish please. YE Tropical Cyclone 03:33, September 6, 2010 (UTC)
 * One circulation appearing northwest of Cape Verde, and another just coming off the coast of Africa. 2007Astro'sHurricane 15:45, September 6, 2010 (UTC)

[edit]91L.INVEST
The circulation closer to the coast is now 91L. NHC has it at 40% risk. NHC also has the other center at 10%. --Patteroast 04:00, September 8, 2010 (UTC)
 * I know I said this for Gaston (the redevelopment of which is still not out of the question) but this one looks scary. Most of the models make this a significant hurricane and take it westward to just north of the Leeward Islands, maintaining a strong ridge. I've seen far to many 'I' storms become household names. Gaston was killed by dry air, the abundance of which has been the wild card this season. There is a huge mass of dry air in the upper levels over the tropical Atlantic that seems to be associated with a massive upper-level low. That low is forecast to lift out to the northeast over the next few days. I don't expect this ridiculous amount of dry air to stick around for very long. I don't expect our ridiculous amount of good luck to stick around much longer either. Nature keeps shooting at us and I get the feeling that sooner or later, she's gonna find her mark. -- SkyFury 05:52, September 8, 2010 (UTC)
 * NHC no longer notes the western bit as being separate. 91L is at 70% risk. --Patteroast 12:32, September 8, 2010 (UTC)

[edit]Tropical Storm Igor
Whoa! Went to check up on 91L and found Igor. Still in the vicinity of Cape Verde and already a storm... yikes. --Patteroast 15:59, September 8, 2010 (UTC)
 * This one looks really scary. It could run into some problems if that upper level dry air doesn't move out. However, most of the global models forecast an upper level anticyclone to form over the system toward the end of the period. If that happens, this could get ugly really fast. I wouldn't count on that ridge to weaken enough to turn Igor out to sea. -- SkyFury 17:54, September 8, 2010 (UTC)

It's way too early to tell; this is exactly what Earl looked like, just formed a little farther west. However, Igor is not grabbing my attention... yet. Stay tuned. Ryan1000 20:50, September 8, 2010 (UTC)
 * I think Igor will take a slightly more northeasterly track than Earl, sorta like Bill 09. YE Tropical Cyclone 22:45, September 8, 2010 (UTC)
 * It's only September and we have what last year ended with... My prediction is feasible. VERY feasible. atomic7732 23:08, September 8, 2010 (UTC)
 * I still say it's too soon to tell what Igor will do, but if I wait a week and come back, things could be very different, or it could just turn out to sea like Bill did. And Darren, the ACE of this year is just about 8 below 2007 as of now. You were right on the prediction you made for the ACE; 2010 will be hyperactive. However, numbers might not correspond. 1893 wasn't extremely active(though back in the 1800's, 13 storms was probrably exeptional), but the ACE of that year is in the top 10, largely due to the Charelston and Sea Islands hurricanes. Also, Igor is only heading west at 6 mph... I have a feeling that if that ridge stays strong, it could be a long-lived storm with an exeptionally high ACE. Ryan1000 23:46, September 8, 2010 (UTC)
 * Huh? Igor is getting me scratching my head right now. Since when do storms stall off of Cape Verde? This isn't quite what Fred did, but Igor just doesn't want to move. Can anyone explain this? This storm is downright weird to me. Ryan1000 11:11, September 9, 2010 (UTC)
 * Igor appears to be weakening and drifting north, but the ridge to its north will keep it from doing so. Maybe the steering currents in this area are very weak. GFS turns it out to sea and brushes it off Newfoundland, but at cat. 2 predicted in 5 days, you never know.2007Astro'sHurricane 11:58, September 9, 2010 (UTC)
 * The scenario being portrayed by the GFS right now is really quite terrifying. Not only does it show Igor becoming a strong hurricane, it also shows another wave coming in behind it out of nowhere and just exploding. Meanwhile, it moves 92L NW through the Caribbean as a well-organized tropical storm ("Julia") headed for the Gulf of Mexico. And near the end of the week, it develops yet another storm off Africa. At the end, you can see the predicted trough eroding the ridge ahead of Igor and a new high pressure system moving off the east coast. This pattern would recurve Igor away from land. If this happened, it would appear likely that the new ridge would strengthen in the wake of Igor and force the hypothetical hurricane behind it ("Karl") westward, very possibly right into the Carolinas. And who knows what a hypothetical "Julia" would do once it cleared the Yucatan. All the models I have access to develop something substantial behind Igor in 60-72 hrs. Most make it just as big as Igor. -- SkyFury 20:05, September 9, 2010 (UTC)
 * What you're predicting is way to far out to be certain, but it is not a good thing to see. Also, Igor is just not moving. If the steering currents remain weak, it will just sit over the Cape Verdes and soak them up in several inches, possibly feet, of rain. I don't know if it'll pull a Beryl, but I have to wait to be sure. That's all I can say for now.Ryan1000 21:18, September 9, 2010 (UTC)
 * I never said anything was certain. All I said was that the model forecasts look pretty scary right now. -- SkyFury 22:19, September 9, 2010 (UTC)
 * This storm is trending west after stalling, but down to a TD. Large burst of convection, likely to eventually become a major, and active Cape Verde Season continues. GFS model actually creates up to Nicole by September 25. 2007Astro'sHurricane 23:41, September 9, 2010 (UTC)

I saw this coming. Epic fail. Igor, just as did your epic fail brother Gaston, you failed us. Since when do storms fail over Cape Verde? atomic7732 00:25, September 10, 2010 (UTC)
 * Yeah, that's not really helpful at all. The forecast still brings Igor to hurricane strength. --Patteroast 01:54, September 10, 2010 (UTC)
 * Gaston's remnants were partly destroyed by land interaction with Puerto Rico, Hispanola and Jamaica, but it appears Cape Verde storms this year are prone to weakening or dissapating in the southeastern Main Development Region. In fact, Alex would have been a long-lived, Cape Verde-type hurricane had it been classified as a TD on June 14 when it formed. If Igor stays weak it could impact land, but it looks like it'll most likely head out to sea. 2007Astro'sHurricane 11:54, September 10, 2010 (UTC)
 * Igor's back up to tropical storm strength. --Patteroast 23:23, September 10, 2010 (UTC)
 * Hmmm... Igor is much better organized on the sattelite imagery right now. If Igor slows down like it did by the Cape Verdes earlier, then it might miss the same trough that recurved Earl, and hit the U.S. Stay tuned. Igor is showing signs of exploding in intensity, and this may not look so good... Ryan1000 02:08, September 11, 2010 (UTC)
 * I actually think Igor has a better chance of missing the East coast than Earl. The storm, If I'm forecasting it correctly, it should miss the Leewards and maybe on a more Danielle-type path. I seriously think this storm would be a fish, although since the models have slightly shifted south, this is a low-confidence forecast. Darren23Edits 02:26, September 11, 2010 (UTC)
 * The latest advisory has Igor near hurricane strength and strengthening. --Patteroast 08:43, September 11, 2010 (UTC)
 * Very close to a hurricane now, and it's had a well-defined eye for several hours. Quite a large storm, could become yet another cat. 4, and has a chance of affecting the Leewards or Canadian Maritimes. Unlikely to impact the US significantly unless it pulls an Ike, which by the way is a historical analog along with the 1938 Long Island express. Most models take it out to sea. This could become the strongest hurricane of the season. 2007Astro'sHurricane 15:14, September 11, 2010 (UTC)
 * NHC has upped their forecast to a Cat 4, although it should be moving NW by then, missing the Leewards. Darren23Edits 20:52, September 11, 2010 (UTC)

[edit]Hurricane Igor
Upgraded. --Patteroast 05:46, September 12, 2010 (UTC)
 * It doesn't seem so likely as Igor will hit the east coast as of now, but Bemuda may have to watch out 4-5 days from now. I'm expecting Igor to go on a Bill-like track, however; missing Bermuda to the west and the U.S. to the east, as well as impacting Atlantic Canada as a category one storm or so. Still, this storm is way far out. Stay tuned. Ryan1000 13:21, September 12, 2010 (UTC)
 * Possibility of becoming a category 5, hitting Bermuda. Some waters in its path cooled by Earl but warmed by constant outflow from the Caribbean and Gulf Stream. 2007Astro'sHurricane 14:33, September 12, 2010 (UTC)
 * A cat. 2 right now, but could do a 20-mb drop during rapid intensification and be a cat. 3 or 4 at the next advisory. The storm seems to be shedding some of its feeder bands and its outer layers are contracting.. 2007Astro'sHurricane 16:44, September 12, 2010 (UTC)

[edit]Major Hurricane Igor
Boom category 4! 20 mb drop in 3 hours. It's exploding, I think. Also, Igor looks very annular. No trace of a forming outer eyewall. atomic7732 18:37, September 12, 2010 (UTC)
 * WHOA!!! Igor just exploded in the last few hours! At the rate Igor is going, it could easily continue to explode in intensity and possibly become a category 5 monster! I don't know if the east coast will be hit, but Bermuda better watch out, this one could be heading straight for the island! I'm pretty stunned. This thing went from a category 1 to 4 in only 6 hours! This thing is so awesome to view on the sattelites, but it still could threaten land. Stay tuned. Ryan1000 19:28, September 12, 2010 (UTC)
 * The satellite images are just SCREAMING annular hurricane. It's got all the necessary conditions. This could become stronger than Isabel 2003, and it doesn't have to go far to beat Earl. It's already at 935 mb, 130 kts. It has a full disk of convection surrounding the eye. A category five is in the forecast, and it could remain that intensity, but could lose annular status when it hits 29C+ waters. Isabel didn't become annular until it approached the longitude of Barbados. This could be a big problem, whether a cat. 5 giving off rip tides for the US, a cat. 4 hitting Bermuda, or a cat. 3 hitting Newfoundland. A lot of us predicted this name to be a very strong hurricane. Looks like that prediction is coming true. 2007Astro'sHurricane 01:10, September 13, 2010 (UTC)
 * Igor's forecast now brings it to category five! --Patteroast 03:05, September 13, 2010 (UTC)
 * Igor!! Holy sh!t! Wow! 150 mph and counting. It's now forecast to become a Cat. 5 briefly and that wouldn't surprise me at all. This is an incredible hurricane. An ERC will likely put an end to the party before too long but who knows how strong Igor'll be by that time. It's not gonna stop strengthening until that happens. Looking at the track, Bermuda better be paying attention because it could get awfully close by about Saturday night/Sunday morning. Astro, for the record, not every hurricane with a large eye and a smooth, circular shape is an annular hurricane. An annular hurricane is more like Epsilon or Ophelia where the eye is larger than the CDO, and not even all of those are annular. -- SkyFury 03:13, September 13, 2010 (UTC)
 * There is no doubt Igor was annular. There was never an outer eyewall, and it looked perfect. Annulars are circular at weaker intensities, normally the stronger the more symmetric, but you can't beat an annular at symmetric. It definitely looks like Igor dropped annular characteristics though. atomic7732 13:59, September 13, 2010 (UTC)
 * Wow, Igor looks even better. The presentation both on visible and IR has noticably improved. Igor is probably on the verge of Category 5 strength, 135-140 knots. If this trend continues, I would be surprised if NHC doesn't bump up the intensity just a bit. However, I don't think it'll be long before an eyewall replacement cycle begins. Less than 12 hours. If Igor reaches Cat 5 strength, it will likely be within the next 3-4 hours. Take a picture, Igor won't stay there long. If it gets to 140 knots, it'll be the first Cat 5 in the Atlantic in three years. God, I love this! This is awesome! Wow, what a storm! -- SkyFury 17:47, September 13, 2010 (UTC)
 * Whoowee! Igor is an epic win right now. Perfect cloud tops, an annular hurricane, and, unfortunately, heading for Bermuda possibly, as at least a category 3. Also, Eric, since Igor is an annular hurricane, even if it does undergo an eyewall cycle, it probrably won't weaken so much. Isabel had to undergo two eyewall cycles to drop from category 5 to category 4. If Igor continues to blow and not undergo an eyewall cycle, it will most likely reach category 5 very soon. Also, if it does hit cat. 5, it will be the first category 5 to miss land directly since Cleo in 1958. Ryan1000 21:13, September 13, 2010 (UTC)
 * I still think you guys are misinterpriting the definition of 'annular hurricane' but I agree that, given the conditions and superb structure of the hurricane, when it does undergo an ERC, it may not weaken much or it may quickly reorganize. As of the latest microwave imagery (about five hours ago), there is no sign of an eyewall cycle, although I still think one is likely within the next 12 hours. The eyewall has been able to sustain itself at 130 knots for 18 straight hours and it doesn't appear to be slowing down. I'm amazed it's not stronger. Cloud tops have warmed a bit since that burst at around noon. It's possible that the shear size of the hurricane is slowing further strengthening. The microwave imagery does make Igor look much less impressive than it does on the IR. This is Igor during the burst earlier today. This is a Category 5. See the difference? Now that takes nothing away from Igor, it's still an incredible hurricane, but it's not a Category 5. Now, if we were going to have a Cat 5, this would be the place you'd want to have it: out over open water and no threat to land. I will say that conditions in the Caribbean are pretty much ideal right now and probably would support a powerful hurricane if one headed there. Proximity to land has precluded 92L from becoming a significant Caribbean hurricane. -- SkyFury 23:04, September 13, 2010 (UTC)
 * Well, maybe not a perfect annular storm, but one nontheless. Also, Eric, Igor is weakening a bit, now at 140 mph and 937 mbars. However, as I said, that isn't so much, and once this cyle is over, it has a chance for category 5 again. It may not certainly happen, but no matter what, Bermuda must watch out for Igor about 4 days from now. Ryan1000 03:19, September 14, 2010 (UTC)
 * This could easily become another Fabian, as it's predited to track just west of Bermuda as a cat. 3. However the island should be more prepared than in 2003, though we have warmer waters, good outflow and a very large storm easily the size of the entire Gulf. It could even become an annular hurricane again while approaching Bermuda, as it reaches waters just cooler than 29C, but currently it has lost that distinction while it was previously marginally annular. 2007Astro'sHurricane 22:11, September 14, 2010 (UTC)

I wouldn't rule out Cat. 5 yet. Look at Igor now! It's grown even larger and is strengthening. The official forecast now brings it up to 130 knots, but with recent satellite estimates at 127, 133, and 127, I think it's already there. And with the diurnal maximum coming up, Igor may just pull it off. I will say, Igor may be the most visually spectacular Atlantic hurricane since Isabel. Reminds me a bit of his predecessor. Bermuda, the stronger Igor gets, the stronger it's likely to be when it gets to you. Preparations begin NOW! -- SkyFury 02:37, September 15, 2010 (UTC)
 * 135!! Igor is a strike away! -- SkyFury 02:46, September 15, 2010 (UTC)
 * Wow indeed. I never saw this coming. If we have just two more category 4 storms, we will shatter 2005's and 1999's record. Julia is the strongest hurricane recorded east of 35 degrees west, and Igor could pull another Fabian. And this year might just be only the second season on record with two category 4's active in the open Atlantic ocean at the same time. Stay tuned. Ryan1000 10:48, September 15, 2010 (UTC)
 * Hmmm... Igor has dropped down to 135 mph since it had that brief strife for category 5 earlier today; I just think it's just undergoing another ERC. However, Igor is downright enormus; it has one of the largest gale diameters of any Atlantic storm on record. The forecast brings it right by Bermuda as a 100 mph storm or so, but because it is an Ike-size storm, the island could easily be swamped by this monster-- under up to a 10-foot storm surge. It is forecast to restrengthen when this ERC is finished, but the shallow island is very vulnerable to storm surge from hurricanes. Right now it doesn't matter how strong it is(category 2 or up); the size of Igor will overpower all oposition. Bermuda is vulnerable, and they must get ready. NOW. Stay tuned. Ryan1000 20:05, September 15, 2010 (UTC)
 * The darned thing looks like Wilma! atomic7732 23:05, September 15, 2010 (UTC)
 * Uh oh. that ERC is just about wraped up, and when it does end in 3 or 6 hours, Igor will restrengthen, possibly to a chance for category 5 again, or category 5 all in all. The initial forecast calls for Igor to head right toward Bermuda. A slight 10 miles to the east or west won't save Bermuda from a slamming from this storm. It is forecast to pass by or over the island as a category 2, but the size of Ike. This thing could drown Bermuda if it stays this f**king massive, even though it might not be a major hurricane when it gets there. Keep your eyes out. This could be very bad. Ryan1000 00:34, September 16, 2010 (UTC)
 * Eye is shrinking, but the storm is getting bigger. It could weaken to a cat. 2, or it could stall, expand, then EWRC into an annular hurricane. This is only the second time ever we've had two cat. 4s in the Atlantic simultaneously. 2007Astro'sHurricane 01:55, September 16, 2010 (UTC)
 * There are still no watches or warnings up for Bermuda from this monster. It's heading northwest, but it's starting to intensify again. It's now at 140 and 934. Also, it is the 10th largest Atlantic hurricane on record at this point, it's wind field goes out 480 miles. Also, this storm is still forecast to pass right by Bermuda. If that happens, the island will get a direct hit from the eyewall at this storm's maximum power. The Bermuda international airport should be getting busy right about now! Ryan1000 20:11, September 16, 2010 (UTC)
 * Down to a cat. 3 now, still EWRC'ing but expected to strengthen and it's still expanding like a monster. Maybe it's possible it could stall as the trough moves off and the storm starts to turn. Bermuda needs to watch this carefully, as the waters are actually warmer than when Fabian hit. 2007Astro'sHurricane 23:42, September 16, 2010 (UTC)
 * It's looking awfully grim for Bermuda right now. The NHC advisory point for 8pm Sunday puts Igor almost directly over the island as a major hurricane. Bermuda's last big hit was Fabian back in 2003 (remember, Fabian was retired for the damage it did on the island). This could easily be as bad or worse. NHC is counting on that shear getting to Igor before it gets to Bermuda. Let's hope they're right, because right now, Igor controls his own destiny. -- SkyFury 06:39, September 17, 2010 (UTC)

And... it's back down to a category 2 hurricane, same as where Alex peaked. It has been fighting shear from a trough north of the storm, but it seems that shear is abating. It could be re-upgraded later tonight. Also, Igor is picking up some speed, and it is still forecast to hit Bermuda as a very strong and large hurricane. Bermuda must be evacuated. NOW. Ryan1000 21:04, September 17, 2010 (UTC)
 * Forecast still points to Igor going back up to category three, but dropping back down to probably a two by the time it gets to Bermuda. Igor is a BIG storm. Even though it's moving fast, tropical storm winds will probably last a long time on Bermuda. --Patteroast 13:13, September 18, 2010 (UTC)

No, it won't reach category 3 again. However, it is forecast to turn north soon, and Igor's enormus size could hit Bermuda with a 12-15 foot storm surge! This thing will not be pretty for Bermuda. It is less than 2 days from a possible landfall, or direct hit at least. However, Igor is under too much shear to reach category 3 again. Igor may only have 100 mph winds, but because it is the third largest Atlantic hurricane on record, almost twice the size of Katrina, it could cause tremendous damage. Stay tuned... Ryan1000 22:58, September 18, 2010 (UTC)
 * Huh, Igor now has weakened into a category 1 hurricane. It's currently at 85 mph, and it's still fighting more shear. Igor may not turn out to be as bad as I was fearing, but it still has hurricane winds 90 miles out, and TS winds 345 miles out. It wouldn't surprise me if hurricane winds are already being felt on Bermuda, but even with just 85 mph winds, it is still possible that a 10 foot storm surge could be felt on the small island due to Igor's massive size. Stay tuned. We aren't out of the woods yet with this one. It could still be VERY destructive.Ryan1000 12:23, September 19, 2010 (UTC)
 * The southern part of this storm is eroding, but it's set to pass just west of Bermuda, giving it the storm's strongest winds. Storm surge, waves and rainfall should be the greatest concern, but since Bermuda is such a small island the storm surge probably won't build up. Hurricane-force wind gusts have hit Bermuda since last night. 2007Astro'sHurricane 19:47, September 19, 2010 (UTC)
 * It appears Igor didn't turn out to be as bad as I was fearing. The storm made a slight 10 mile or so jog to the west before making it's way into Bermuda, sparing the island from a diret slamming, and the longest duration of winds. Also, Igor weakened down to a category 1 storm before making a direct hit. Had Igor held on to category 2 strength before hitting Bermuda, and not made that last-minute left-hand turn, Bermuda could have fared a lot worse than it did. The island got lucky with Igor. It could have been much worse. Ryan1000 22:01, September 19, 2010 (UTC)
 * Still, the tropical storm winds have only been gone for a short while in Bermuda. Tropical storm warnings up for Newfoundland, but it'll probably be extratropical by then. --Patteroast 20:32, September 20, 2010 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia's been saying Igor's the biggest hurricane ever, and it's been saying that for the last two days so I guess it's not vandalism. Is this for real? If so, that's pretty crazy, I imagined the biggest hurricane ever would be a Category 5 or something at its centre. This thing better not come anywhere near us in the UK. 86.148.171.189 21:10, September 20, 2010 (UTC)
 * That was apparently a mistake, and it's now the eighth largest hurricane ever. Igor is expected to hit Greenland apparently. 2007Astro'sHurricane 00:13, September 21, 2010 (UTC)
 * Not so more. It shifted to the left and might dissipate somewhere over Nunavut, however surely to be posttropical at that time. --88.102.101.245 12:01, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

[edit]AoI: Near Trinidad
Up on the NHC at 40%. GFS model sends it on a Dean/Alex-like track, and stalls it in the BoC. 2007Astro'sHurricane 11:59, September 9, 2010 (UTC)

[edit]92L.INVEST
The models don't seem very confused with this one. The general consensus seems to be on a general northwest track. Most of them drive it into the islands of the Greater Antilles and consequently give it a hard time developing. But a lot of them seem to think it'll become better organized later in the period as moves away from Cuba into the northwest Caribbean, headed for the Gulf of Mexico. -- SkyFury 20:09, September 9, 2010 (UTC)
 * IMO, they're all pretty straightforward. I don't know if 92L's progress will be hindered enough for development, but this one bears watching for sure. This is the exact same area where Gustav formed. Keep your eyes out. Ryan1000 21:21, September 9, 2010 (UTC)
 * Models go anywhere from the Bahamas and Florida to the Yucatan and northern Tamaulipas. SHIPS model combined with ensemble and model spread puts a cat. 3 hurricane in the Gulf. Possible future interaction with Gaston which would pull this storm farther north.2007Astro'sHurricane 23:43, September 9, 2010 (UTC)
 * Still organizing. Up to 50% risk. --Patteroast 23:24, September 10, 2010 (UTC)
 * High risk! 60%. --Patteroast 12:53, September 11, 2010 (UTC)
 * Still just sitting there at 60%... looking pretty thin at the moment, though. --Patteroast 05:46, September 12, 2010 (UTC)
 * Redeveloped a bit, but down to 50%. --Patteroast 13:37, September 12, 2010 (UTC)
 * New burst of convection, and looks like a significant rain threat for Haiti. I don't like the HWRF, which consistently puts the storm center over Haiti, but most models bring it over or just north of Jamaica. Looking like a BoC/Western Gulf storm.2007Astro'sHurricane 14:36, September 12, 2010 (UTC)

I get the feeling that interaction with land is what's slowing this one down. Once it gets into the western Caribbean, it'll have a better chance to develop and the models agree with me. The general consensus is taking a depression into the Yucatan and then developing it into Tropical Storm Karl before driving it into mainland Mexico. Most of the models make it pretty strong; at least 55-60 knots. Only NOGAPS is unimpressed with it. -- SkyFury 18:15, September 13, 2010 (UTC)

[edit]Tropical Storm Karl
It's September. Has somewhat of a shot at hurricane intensity after the Yucatan. Strangely, this is the only time a storm named "Karl" formed anywhere but the deep tropics. Jake52 21:04, September 14, 2010 (UTC)
 * Again the NHC is upgrading from invest directly to a TS, the third or forth time in 2010 I think. --88.102.101.245 21:46, September 14, 2010 (UTC)
 * A slight slow-down in forward speed and it could easily become a hurricane, or even stall as GFS initially predicted. This could be bad for Veracruz, possibly even a re-Lorenzo. Some warm 29-31C waters in its path. 2007Astro'sHurricane 22:12, September 14, 2010 (UTC)
 * I must say, I'm surprised it went straight to Karl. I kinda expected to be talking about Tropical Depression Thirteen right now. The last Karl, a rather impressive hurricane out where Igor and Julia are hanging out, formed two days later. We're ahead of 2004's pace. In fact, we're ahead of every pace since 1936 except for 1995 and 2005. It would appear those prognosticators we were mocking back in July are having the last laugh. -- SkyFury 05:37, September 15, 2010 (UTC)
 * Landfall on the Yucatan. Karl was strengthening all the way until it hit land... a bit more water and it probably would have just made hurricane strength. But it's over land now, so it's wait and see time for how quickly it'll redevelop over the Gulf of Mexico. --Patteroast17:56, September 15, 2010 (UTC)
 * It looks like Karl is heading for Tampico, but it isn't a big storm, and if it can hold together while crossing the Yucatan, things will not turn out so well for that area. It could explode in the Gulf. Stay tuned. Ryan1000 20:15, September 15, 2010 (UTC)
 * Starting to develop an eye. This could be a cat. 2 at landfall, or a cat. 3 if it stalls significantly in the Gulf. 2007Astro'sHurricane 01:56, September 16, 2010 (UTC)
 * WTF Karl? You start to organize OVER the Yucutan, and you get an eye, just hours preceding exit? What do you have for us next?! Make it good Karl, make it good. atomic7732 03:01, September 16, 2010 (UTC)
 * This is pretty much what Alex managed to do. --88.102.101.245 09:39, September 16, 2010 (UTC)
 * We are on the verge of having three simultaneous Atlantic hurricanes for the first time since 2005...and we barely had it then. This time, we could have three active for as long as two days. Julia's weakening fast though, Karl better get on with it. -- SkyFury 14:21, September 16, 2010 (UTC)

[edit]Hurricane Karl
Yikes. Upgraded and the advisory says "...KARL IS EXPECTED TO STRENGTHEN STEADILY...AND POSSIBLY RAPIDLY." Hurricane warnings up. --Patteroast 15:34, September 16, 2010 (UTC)
 * IT IS NOT OUT OF THE QUESTION THAT KARL COULD BECOME A MAJOR HURRICANE BEFORE LANDFALL. This is scary... Storm's Eye 15:39, September 16, 2010 (UTC)

I said below in the Retirements section, "if it explodes and turns out to be as bad as Charlie was for the area in 1951, yes." Does that prediction I made below have to come true? If it does, this will be the first time in Atlantic basin history that there were 3 successive category 4's in a single season. WOW. This storm is very small, but could be very potient. Stay tuned. This could be much worse than Alex was. Ryan1000 20:15, September 16, 2010 (UTC)
 * This storm is basically starting to take the exact same track as Marco 2008, but is already stronger and could yet rapidly intensify. Slight chance of a cat. 3 at landfall, but will not affect as large an area as Alex. It seems to be barreling toward the WSW, so if it stalls for a bit and goes on a more WNW turn, it could make a huge difference in terms of intensity. Remember the Tabasco floods in 2007? This could set up a pattern and cause something similar. This is also the first trio of three simultaneous hurricanes in a dozen years, and this didn't even happen in 2005. We are two storms behind 1995 at this point, but if Karl becomes a major, this will be the first time since 1961 that all three simultaneous hurricanes was a major at some point. SSTs a very warm 29.5C-30C in its future path, and the storm will have more access to warmer water and slightly more shallow water to aid in strengthening if it veers farther north. Watch for any signs of stalling. 2007Astro'sHurricane 23:49, September 16, 2010 (UTC)

I don't know if it will stall, but Karl is one happy hurricane right now. It's in an oasis in the Bay of Campeche, and It has a potential to explode before landfall. The pressure is 977 mbars right now, a little low for a category 1 with 80 mph winds. If it does bomb in the bay and reach category 4 or 5 before landfall(which is somewhat unlikely), then this thing will be the worst hurricane ever known to hit the area. Stay tuned. This could be very bad. Ryan1000 00:07, September 17, 2010 (UTC)
 * Per RBT, Karl is now Cat 2 with 85 kts/971 hPa. Darren23Edits 01:55, September 17, 2010 (UTC)
 * Forecast to be a Cat 3 at landfall. -88.102.101.245 05:27, September 17, 2010 (UTC)
 * This has gotten really ugly really fast. Karl is having a field day out there. Last time we had three consecutive major hurricanes: 2004...the last time this list was used. Same three letters. Unfortunately however, not the same three names. By my count, this is the ninth time in recorded history that three hurricanes have been active at once in the Atlantic. August 21-24, 1886 (there were four active on Aug. 23-24); August 17-22, 1893 (there were four active on Aug. 19 and 22); September 12-14, 1926; September 7-12, 1961 (there were nearly four active on the 12th. Betsy became extratropical less than twelve hours before Esther became a hurricane); September 8, 1980; August 30-31, 1995; September 23-27, 1998 (there were four active Sep. 25-26); September 8, 2005; and now September 16-17, 2010. -- SkyFury06:56, September 17, 2010 (UTC)

[edit]Major hurricane Karl
And there it is. 105kn / 961 hPa. --88.102.101.245 09:00, September 17, 2010 (UTC)
 * And forcast to be cat 4 in about 12 hours. Wow. That would be the third consecutive cat 4 in a row, a first in history I guess. --88.102.101.245 09:07, September 17, 2010 (UTC)

Yes, it would be the first 3 consecutive category 4's in history, and If it hits the Gulf coast of Mexico as a 4, it will be the first category 4 hurricane to hit Mexico's Gulf coast since Hurricane Gilbert in 1988. Also, It will be the worst hurricane to hit this area in Mexico since Hurricane Charlie in 1951, which crashed into Tampico as a category 4, 135 mph winds. Also, the NHC says 140, not 135, for this storm. The only thing I can hope from Karl is those small pocket of nasty-ass winds spare Veracruz from a direct hit. Karl only has hurricane-force winds going out 25 miles from the center, so the slightest turn could make the difference betwwen catastrophic and lucky for Mexico. Stay tuned. This could get ugly! Ryan1000 11:36, September 17, 2010 (UTC)
 * And.... Karl has made landfall. For the record, this storm exploded faster than any storm on record in the Bay of Campeche, but unfortunately, the city of Veracruz did get a direct slamming from Karl near maximum intensity. This storm was getting ready to explode a lot further than where it got, at 120 mph. Had Karl not turned to the west-southwest like it did, it easily could have hit Mexico as a category 4 or even 5 storm right about now. It didn't reach cat. 4, but it did directly hit the largest port city in Mexico with 115 mph winds. Not only was it the first major hurricane on record to hit the city of Veracruz directly, but became the strongest hurricane on record in the Bay of Campeche, surpassing Hurricane Item in 1950. Karl was also the first major hurricane to hit Mexico's Gulf coast since Hurricane Emily in 2005, and the first major hurricane to make landfall as a major hurricane anywhere in the Atlantic basin since Hurricane Ike in 2008. This thing is also the first major hurricane to hit the gulf coast of the Gulf of Mexico since Wilma in 2005. It wasn't as strong as it could've been, but it probrably couldn't have gotten any worse than it could've had been... I have a bad feeling Karl will have BIG damage and death numbers from Veracruz. This season is far from over; Karl is only storm number 11 in the 2010 AHS, and we have two months and two weeks until we can officially call it a season. Nor is it out of the question we could get two more category 4's to break the record of 5 in 1999 and 2005. Ryan1000 20:07, September 17, 2010 (UTC)
 * Also, Karl is the only major hurricane ever recorded in the Bay of Campeche. It did miss the heart of Veracruz by a few miles or so to the north, but that's not enough to the extent of where it didn't do severe damage. Veracruz rarely sees direct hits from strong hurricanes because it is way too far south. Tropical storms do every once in a while come into the city; it happened 3 times in 2005, with Bret, Gert, and Jose, but all of those storms were weak and caused little damage. This storm was a category 3 at landfall. No major hurricane has ever directly affected the city of Veracruz... until now. It might take some time to get some official damage estimates out, but when they do come, i'm fearing they will be BIG. We didn't get so lucky with Karl. It's the first major hurricane to actually make landfall as a signifigant storm thus far in 2010, although Alex also caused quite some impact back in June/July, and was very close to becoming a major hurricane. Karl was our second bad storm thus far, and there could be plenty more from where this one came from, starting with Igor. I greatly fear what will be in store for us during the rest of this season. Ryan1000 00:09, September 18, 2010 (UTC)

[edit]Post-tropical Karl
Karl is gone. The impact in Veracruz was probrably extreme, and it isn't impossible that it's remnants could cross over and become Georgette. We will have to wait and see. Ryan1000 11:58, September 18, 2010 (UTC)
 * Eight people killed, six missing. 2007Astro'sHurricane 19:49, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

[edit]93L.INVEST
Just coming off of Africa, already invested and at medium risk on NHC. 30%. --Patteroast 12:53, September 11, 2010 (UTC)
 * This thing looked like a tropical cyclone immediately after emerging off the coast. 2007Astro'sHurricane 15:15, September 11, 2010 (UTC)
 * 50% now, but thankfully, this storm should recurve further east than all the storms we have had this year. I still do expect this storm to be TS Karl/Julia though. After this, we still have 2 waves, and one or both of them could develop. Watch out guys, the CSU forecast might be coming true. :| Darren23Edits 20:51, September 11, 2010 (UTC)
 * CSU forecast link please? atomic7732 02:19, September 12, 2010 (UTC)
 * 90%. YE Tropical Cyclone 03:43, September 12, 2010 (UTC)
 * "Near 100%". Or in other words, it'll be a depression at the next advisory time, unless it suddenly and unexpectedly falls apart. --Patteroast 13:37, September 12, 2010 (UTC)

[edit]Tropical Depression Twelve
Yup, that was pretty fast. It hasn't even reached Cape Verde yet. 2007Astro'sHurricane 14:47, September 12, 2010 (UTC)
 * Considering the way it seems to ran and considering the longer track Igor took this future Julia might cause some problems on the East Coast by steering Igor right onto the Carolinas or so. Or some other Fujiwhara stunt coud occur. --88.102.101.245 15:25, September 12, 2010 (UTC)
 * Igor IS doing a WSW wobble or drift, but this is likely only temporary. Julia, which we will likely see soon, could be a problem for the Azores while Igor hits Bermuda or maybe goes farther west. 2007Astro'sHurricane 16:46, September 12, 2010 (UTC)
 * I rather fear that future Julia might void Igor's visum for Canada because she seems to be headed directly to the northwest while Igor has a much longer way WSW and then turning to the Northwest and North so until he is approaching Atlantic Canada Julia might be there already. It might end in some kind of Perfect Storm, I fear. --88.102.101.245 18:52, September 12, 2010 (UTC)
 * No. I just think that Julia will miss land and turn out to sea like Melissa did in late September 2007. It may become a hurricane, but I don't see it affecting land, by any means. I wouldn't be surprised if it does what Fred did last year, but it still won't affect land if it does that.Ryan1000 19:54, September 12, 2010 (UTC)

[edit]Tropical Storm Julia
Hello, beautiful! -- SkyFury 03:01, September 13, 2010 (UTC)
 * And miss-never going to affect land. Oh, well. Might as well watch it anyways. Ryan1000 21:15, September 13, 2010 (UTC)

[edit]Hurricane Julia
Upgraded! --Patteroast 09:06, September 14, 2010 (UTC)
 * This forum even shows how much people care about you. Your brother: 99%, you 1%. Sorry Julia, wrong time. atomic7732 14:09, September 14, 2010 (UTC)
 * Cat. 2 -- SkyFury 02:43, September 15, 2010 (UTC)
 * Speak for yourself, Atomic. I'm enjoying watching a hurricane that has just about no risk of impacting land. Igor's incredible, but it's headed straight for Bermuda... I'm wondering if we might have another Fabian. --Patteroast 03:08, September 15, 2010 (UTC)
 * Patteroast, you are my hero. A powerful hurricane making landfall is an incredible thing to watch, but it's refreshing to watch one without the weight of people's ruined lives hanging on my shoulders. -- SkyFury 04:57, September 15, 2010 (UTC)

[edit]Major Hurricane Julia
Whoa! Special advisory, 125 knots! Wtf? Really? 125 and now forecast to become a Cat 4! Julia hardly looks like a major hurricane to me. Cloud tops are really cold but the eye looks like sh!t. If the new forecast verifies, Julia would be the fourth Cat. 4 in less than a month. Record for most Cat. 4 or greater storms in an entire season I believe is five from 1999. Wow. -- SkyFury 07:23, September 15, 2010 (UTC)
 * Special advisory brings it to Cat 3 with a shot at Cat 4! What on Earth?!? Jake52 06:27, September 15, 2010 (UTC)
 * And now it IS a Category 4. Tell me, did ANY of the models give Julia this much strength. Jake52 08:55, September 15, 2010 (UTC)

Not at all. I am truly impressed with 2010. This year has 4 category 4 storms right now. Julia won't affect land, but man, she's a beauty, just like Danielle. This season just need's two more category 4's to shatter the two-way tie for 5 set in 1999 and 2005. Ryan1000 10:51, September 15, 2010 (UTC)
 * Woah! No one expected this! I was expecting category 3, but not category 4! atomic7732 14:35, September 15, 2010 (UTC)

No computer models or the NHC forecast anticipated this one coming. She won't affect land, but she is the easternmost category 4 hurricane ever recorded in the Atlantic basin, reaching that intensity at 31.8 degrees west. One more cat. 4 and we will tie the all time record in 1999 and 2005, two more and we'll shatter the record, and if we keep getting them, this year could have a record or near-record high ACE. Ryan1000 19:56, September 15, 2010 (UTC)
 * Back down to category 3, and still won't affect land. 125 mph now, but still, this was quite a surprise. Ryan1000 22:13, September 15, 2010 (UTC)
 * Huh? What's happening to Julia now? After rising up on a hot streak in intensity earlier today, she looks like a piece of sh!t right now. I can barely see her eye on sattelites. By the next advisory, it might not even be a hurricane, if not, a really weak one. As fast as Julia strengthened, colder waters are knocking her down just as rapidly. She might even dissipate by tomorrow! If so, she would be one of the shortest lived-- if not the shortest-lived category 4 in the history of the Atlantic basin. Ryan1000 00:18, September 16, 2010 (UTC)
 * I guess I could have predicted a rapid strengthening, as the eye was beginning to show last night and the Dvorak numbers were about to shoot up. But, Alas, I did not. This was a very unusual location for a cat. 4, but not surprising, and in the future we could get cat. 3/4 storms from the Azores to Portugal to the Mediterranean. 2007Astro'sHurricane 01:59, September 16, 2010 (UTC)
 * All the way back to category one. --Patteroast 21:00, September 16, 2010 (UTC)
 * It may be weak now, but look at its structure. Its eye has re-appeared in the past few hours, and now its eye is huge compared to the rest of the storm, which is small. It looks half-extratropical, but it's also getting over warmer waters and will reach 29C SSTs by the time it's expected to weaken to a TS. It's in prime annular hurricane territory right now, with all the necessary SSTs, shear conditions and upper-level wind, and it's pretty close to Epsilon's infamous strengthening site. 2007Astro'sHurricane 23:54, September 16, 2010 (UTC)
 * However Igor's outflow and shear is going to destroy her. --88.102.101.245 05:30, September 17, 2010 (UTC)

When Julia became a Cat. 4 on Wednesday, it was just the second time in recorded history that two hurricanes of at least Cat. 4 strength were active in the Atlantic at the same time. September 16, 1926 is the only other time this happened, and even then for just one six hour period (6Z). We'll see if that holds up in re-analysis. It wouldn't surprise me if it doesn't. Not one other time has this happened. Not 2005, not 2004, not 1999, not 1961, not 1950, maybe 1926...that's it. I must say, I'm totally amazed. I expected to find at least three other times that we've had simultaneous Cat. 4s. How about maybe one! Records go back 150 years; there isn't much that hasn't happened in the Atlantic. That is remarkable. Take a picture kids, you'll never see this ever again. -- SkyFury 18:03, September 17, 2010 (UTC)
 * Probably worth mentioning that Julia's a tropical storm at this point, and dying rapidly from Igor's shear. Still, she gave us a pretty good show! --Patteroast 13:10, September 18, 2010 (UTC)
 * However it seems good Julia is much more robust than Igor thought he could get along with her. Still a tropical storm. --88.102.101.245 11:13, September 20, 2010 (UTC)
 * Final advisory. --Patteroast 15:25, September 20, 2010 (UTC)

[edit]Remnants of Julia
Good girl still not totally dead. 20 percent for reintensification by NHC. --88.102.101.245 15:25, September 23, 2010 (UTC)
 * Now 'near 0%'. --Patteroast 02:41, September 24, 2010 (UTC)
 * Julia's still searching Romeo: now at 10 percent, east southeast of Bermuda, though not conductive environment. ;-) --88.102.101.245 19:22, September 27, 2010 (UTC)

[edit]AoI: Way East of Bermuda
New little NHC blob in the subtropics. "DEVELOPMENT OF THIS SYSTEM APPEARS UNLIKELY..." but at 10% nonetheless. --Patteroast
 * Asorbed by trough. 2007Astro'sHurricane 16:46, September 12, 2010 (UTC)

[edit]AoI: Lurking Near Cape Verde...
Models have been forecasting that something would develop off Cape Verde within days... NHC now is showing a 10% risk in that same area. --Patteroast 15:26, September 17, 2010 (UTC)
 * Up to 30% now. Here comes Lisa! Darren23Edits 12:12, September 18, 2010 (UTC)

[edit]94L.INVEST
Invest'd. --Patteroast 13:09, September 18, 2010 (UTC)
 * Up to 60% risk now. "CONDITIONS APPEAR FAVORABLE FOR ADDITIONAL DEVELOPMENT...AND A TROPICAL DEPRESSION COULD FORM DURING THE NEXT COUPLE OF DAYS..." --Patteroast 06:07, September 19, 2010 (UTC)
 * 80%. "ENVIRONMENTAL CONDITIONS ARE CONDUCIVE FOR A TROPICAL DEPRESSION TO FORM LATER TODAY OR ON MONDAY..." --Patteroast 18:11, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

[edit]Tropical Depression Fourteen
Up on RBT. atomic7732 00:46, September 21, 2010 (UTC)
 * On NRL as well. I guess NHC doesn't feel a special advisory is warranted. (For what it's worth, they do have it at 90% risk, though. :P) --Patteroast 01:48, September 21, 2010 (UTC)
 * Adv out. atomic7732 02:57, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

[edit]Tropical Storm Lisa
Huh. NRL's still posting ahead of NHC tonight... they're calling it 14L.LISA already! --Patteroast 07:51, September 21, 2010 (UTC)
 * Confirmation from NHC. --Patteroast 08:50, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

Gah, Lisa is one of the saddest excuses for any TS I have seen. The outflow from Igor, more Julia, is providing tremendous shear over this storm. It won't get stronger than 55 knots IMO. If it does, i'll be very impressed. Even so, it won't affect land anyways... At least in the near future. I would wait on her, though. Mathew, her Carribean brother-to-be, could be a completly different story to talk about in the next week... Ryan1000 11:30, September 21, 2010 (UTC)
 * I thought Ike was a poor looking tropical storm. Look what ended up happening. Personally, I believe we're getting a hurricane. Jake52 22:04, September 21, 2010 (UTC)
 * I don't think Lisa's going to be anything like Ike... yeah, maybe it'll barely make hurricane, but I wouldn't bet on a very impressive or long-lived one... and also, the models seem to think it's going to sit in the same place for the indefinite future. --Patteroast 13:49, September 22, 2010 (UTC)
 * Dropped down to a depression, but back to storm strength now. Definitely not going to be a hurricane... --Patteroast 21:08, September 23, 2010 (UTC)
 * Now that I think about it, has there ever been another Cape Verde storm that went to the EAST? Jake52 00:29, September 24, 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes, Vince, for example. This storm is expected to drift north, then its remnants track west. 2007Astro'sHurricane 18:03, September 24, 2010 (UTC)

[edit]Hurricane Lisa
Never say "never". Special advisory ups it to a hurricane (and it's a REALLY small one, probably Nana 1990 sized). Jake52 00:11, September 25, 2010 (UTC)
 * Hmmm... This has gotten interesting... a hurricane? I never saw her coming onto this intensity, but she still won't affect any land areas... However, if she can do what Julia did, then I will give her a nice round of applause! Also, if this pint-sized feisty storm can reach category 4, which currently isn't forecast, then I will just laugh at how Julia's record as the easternmost category 4 only stood for 9 days until Lisa broke it... in the same way Dennis's record as strongest pre-August storm only stood for 9 days until Emily broke it... Also, keep in mind Lisa is still the first storm after Karl, so if it becomes a major hurricane, then it will mark the first time 4 succesive majors formed in a season since 1961. This thing could actually be interesting to watch! Yay! Ryan1000 00:37, September 25, 2010 (UTC)
 * Wow that was crazy! Hahaha! Lisa get yourself to cat 4! atomic7732 01:41, September 25, 2010 (UTC)
 * What the hell? Really? Last I checked, this thing was on the verge of falling apart, heading for colder water, all but done...and all of a sudden it's a hurricane? That makes four straight hurricanes for the Atlantic. If Matthew could somehow pull it out (and if Lisa can do it, why not), it would be five in a row, which would really be a helluva thing. Been a while since we've had this many hurricanes in succession. This season's list of incredible things just continues to grow. -- SkyFury 04:00, September 25, 2010 (UTC)
 * Huh! Yeah, can't say I thought it would happen either. --Patteroast 04:07, September 25, 2010 (UTC)
 * BTW: Was there ever a hurricane in that part of the Atlantic, only a few dozens of kilometres north-northwest of the Capverdes? --88.102.101.245 11:00, September 25, 2010 (UTC)
 * Nope. No hurricanes, just 2 TS's (Not sure about names). They were "in the vicinity", not like Vince. atomic7732 16:41, September 25, 2010 (UTC)
 * Poof. YE Tropical Cyclone 20:11, September 26, 2010 (UTC)