Forum:2009 Atlantic hurricane season

AoI: Azores
. 70.68.12.196 22:22, 1 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Officially on TWO. 70.68.12.196 00:11, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

Invest 92L
Invest for now. 70.68.12.196 16:33, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Wow, this looks a lot like Vince Jr. Seems doubtful it'll get a name, but it also seemed doubtful that Vince would get a name at first, too. What an odd start to the 2009 season that'd be! --Patteroast 21:07, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Regained organization. 70.68.12.196 23:33, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Poofed from NHC and NRL. Some suggests it was subtropical... wow! We had already mind blowing situations early in the season! Storm&#39;s Eye 14:15, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

93L. INVEST
In the Caribbean. Both GFDL and HWRF predict a cat. 2! 2007Astro&#39;sHurricane 00:59, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

94L.INVEST
Wow, it's boring in here and in Wikipedia. There was already a 94L.invest a couple of days ago. -125.240.29.218 00:37, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

The Post-Apocalyptic Nuclear Winter that is the Worldwide Tropics
I have conducted some of the most extensive research on historical tropical cyclone activity ever by an armchair meteorologist and I have not seen a world this dead since 1977 (the most inactive year worldwide in the Naming Era [since 1950]). The Southern Hemisphere just had one of its least active seasons in many years. The West Pacific is off to a very slow start. It's been a while since WPAC didn't produce a storm until May, as was the case this year. They've had two fewer storms and one fewer major typhoon than they had at this point in the 2008 season. WPAC has had half as many typhoons as they'd had this time last year. As you can see, the Atlantic is also dead. At this point in 2008, Cristobal was four days away. We have yet to have a named storm in 2009. The Eastern Pacific appears to be the only basin that's meeting its quota, so to speak. I have no explanation for this worldwide dead. I don't have any explanation for 1977 either. That year, pretty much every basin saw near record lows in activity. There were just 60 total storms, worldwide, in 1977. The average for the past 30 years is 87. To put this in perspective, 1992 saw 59 hurricanes. From what I'm seeing, I doubt 2009 will threaten that low mark but it could well be one of the lowest since. This global quiet is really quite remarkable. The Atlantic looks like a winter wasteland right now. This is more than an El Nino, this is a famine. -- SkyFury 05:11, 16 July 2009 (UTC)


 * I think an explanation for this is, in 1995 and onward to 2008, the hurricane seasons have been coming above average, but that active hurricane cycle was said to last for 1 to 2 decades, and I think the active hurricane period that begun in 1995 is coming to a close. If I am right, then starting next year in 2010, and continuing for 20 to 30 years, we will be knocked into another inactive hurricane cycle, just like what happened from the mid 1970's to 1994. If that happens, we will finally get a break from all these storms. And about what you were saying on the inactivity, SkyFury, I have no idea why it's coming so quiet now. So far, we have only seen 12 tropical storm-strength storms in the entire northern hemisphere alone. 2 from the NIO, 6 from the WPac, which is usually onto their 11th-12th TS on average at this time of year, 4 from the EPac, which is okay at this time, and none in the Atlantic. I don't know what's causing it, although it is giving us a break from these storms; our last break was 2006, when the East Pacific was at it's most active point since 1992, but the Atlantic was rather quiet. 76.29.112.198 00:12, 25 July 2009 (UTC)


 * I was of the understanding that the active period was expected to last 2-3 decades. Also remember, 1997 and 2006 were near or below "average" (as NHC defines it. IMO the past 30 years are a better sampling than the last 50). My point was that typically if the Atlantic is quiet, the Pacific is active and vice versa. This year, everywhere is quiet. I can't remember a drought this severe this late in the year except a few instances that have come up in my research. With a late-arriving El Nino expected, the Pacific might see a late surge but in most El Nino years, the Atlantic is active early but sees a below average Aug-Oct. In 2006, the ATL had had three storms by July 18 (one found in post-analysis). In 1997, the ATL saw record activity in July with four storms. August will tell the tale and one basin might eventually go on a hot streak but I have never seen a July this dead. -- SkyFury 22:01, 25 July 2009 (UTC)


 * This year is prob a less active version of 1977 or 1979, Sky, but if this inactivity continues, and the 2009 AHS pulls a 1997 August, we might not see a storm until September, but if the East Pacific sees little storms in August and September, then that basin will have little time left, because the Eastern Pacific dies out like wildfire once October comes in, but this does not always happen. In the Atlantic, November isn't always a stranger to major hurricanes, and recently, November has been acting like August in years like '08, '01, and '99. Oh, and by the way, SkyFury, July only sees a storm once every one to two years, making the lack of July activity this year normal, since the last time no storms formed in July was 2004, 5 years ago. The 2005-2008 streak of July storms lasted four years, making that the most # of consecutive years that storms formed in July on record. August and September are yet to come. If this year pulls a 2004 by now, it could still be a bad year, but it may also just pull a 1914 year as well, and have only one or two storms form. This year still could be average, but looking at the atmospheric conditions in the Atlantic/EPac/WPac, I don't see any storms forming in the next week or two. 76.29.112.198 21:58, 27 July 2009 (UTC)


 * The thing that really strikes me is not so much the lack of named storms but the lack of any activity whatsoever. There haven't even been many suspect areas. It's not like a bunch of invests keep getting nipped in the bud by shear, a la 2007. There's almost been nothing to get nipped. And I'm talking about worldwide, not just the Atlantic. Even the Eastern Pacific has gone quiet now after that little hot streak. I have never seen the West Pacific this quiet. That place is essenially a giant cauldron of boiling hot water and not much to run into. They've had two storms this month, two! And one of those was hardly deserving of a name. It's almost August! The lack of storms in the Atlantic at this point is not entirely surprising. A little unexpected but not unprescidented. The Pacific however, especially WPAC, is downright unbelievable. I've seen Januaries more active than this July has been over there. The word 'desolate' comes to mind when I look at the world's oceans right now. The Atlantic looks like winter; almost no precipitation at all. There are a few cyclonic swirls in EPAC that I guess put it a notch or two above dead. The West Pacific has a swath of heavy showers around the ITCZ but nothing cyclonic. And the Indian Ocean looks almost as dead as the Atlantic. I will say, however, that if you were gonna go to the Caribbean, you couldn't have picked a better month. You get winter weather with hurricane season rates. That's a once-in-a-long-damn-time deal right there! -- SkyFury 07:45, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
 * I know, SkyFury. This inactivity makes the Caribbean a perfect place to be by now. 1977 and 1979 were also quiet, but some of the storms in those years were notable. In 1977, A cat 5 hit Mexico from the gulf coast, doing heavy damage, in the AHS. In the East Pac, Hurricane heather caused record rainfall in Arizona, and in the West Pac, Typhoon Babe became the last typhoon named after the island it struck in Japan. 1979 was another quiet year, but had thousands of deaths and billions in damage in the AHS, and the strongest tropical cyclone that ever existed formed in the Pacific. In 2009, we have hardly had any storms form ths year so far, and if they did form, they haven't made themselves useful in any way. The basins are still quiet now, but the NIO doesn't get going again until November. The 3 main basins may keep up this inactivity through the rest of this year hopefully, although it's confusing to see no storms active in all 3 basins, especially at this time of year. 76.29.112.198 23:21, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Central Pacific just got a depression (a gift from EPAC) that may become a storm in the next day or two. I agree with your point wholeheartedly. 2004 didn't start until the last day of July and you see how well that went. Some bad storms have come in inactive years. Andrew is one (name one more notable storm in 1992...ST1 doesn't count). And for a season that saw just seven storms and no major hurricanes, there certainly was a lot of dying going on in 1994. So we'll see. Like I said before, August will tell the tale. -- SkyFury 19:18, 30 July 2009 (UTC)


 * And August does tell the tale... for now. I haven't checked in for some time, and in one weekend, Ana, Bill, and Claudette arise. August is closing up with just 3 named storms in the AHS. None of the 3 are significant storms, IMO. Ana and Claudette were minor with little effects. Bill is still out there, but it is forecast to miss the U.S. to the east and Bermuda to the west, but the large, powerful storm could still deal out huge waves to the east coast of the U.S, and if it slows down, it could give Bermuda a direct hit as a 115 mph category 3 hurricane. Still, I think the AHS will only have 6-8 storms this year. The WPac is very quiet; they are almost equal in activity to the Eastern Pacific, with only 10 named storms in the entire season so far! Typhoon Morakot, however, became Taiwan's worst typhoon in history, doing 3.1 billion in damage to Taiwan (USD), and killing 500, and possibly over 10,000, people. Only the Eastern Pacific is being unaffected by this record low inactivity. They're on to their 9th storm so far, and usually see 16 a year. Sky, this is one very harsh disease outbreak in the tropics this year. 76.29.112.198 03:03, 21 August 2009 (UTC)

August
August is here and storms aren't.12.144.5.2 04:38, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

AoI: West of Senegal
This one's a long way off, but a week from now it'll be heading for the Caribbean. Both the CMC and GFS develop it, and the long-term GFS sends it into the Gulf (very warm waters) before dissapating. Could be one to watch if it can hold together and reach TS status. 2007Astro&#39;sHurricane 00:20, 6 August 2009 (UTC)


 * And as quickly as it comes, it's gone. Today marks the 21st anniversary of the beginning of the 1988 season. Not one season has started later since. However, if you ignore the subtropical storm in April, 1992 didn't start until August 17...and had a grand total of six named storms that year. Just goes to show you that all it takes is one to change the face of a season. 1987 didn't start until August 9. I have to say that I don't see a storm forming by Sunday. 1992 aside, that would make the 2009 season the latest start in 25 years! 1984 didn't get going until August 19 with Subtropical Storm One. Arthur didn't form until August 29. The only modern-era season to start later than that was the Dead Year of Dead Years: 1977 when Anita formed on August 30. 1977 was very nearly the first September start since 1920. It should be noted that many seasons that didn't start until mid-August went on to be fairly active years. 1984 ended up with 13, 1950 started on August 12 and also had 13 including a record 8 major hurricanes (the one record 2005 failed to break). 1949 is another example. -- SkyFury 18:47, 7 August 2009 (UTC)


 * This afternoon's TWO is quiet as ever.I've compiled the Dates of first Atlantic tropical cyclones for every year since the deadliest-ever 1780 season for comparison,right now this is the slowest start since 1992 if subtropicals count and 1987 if they don't,but as the NOAA forecast says,late starts don't mean no major hurricanes.And looking over the long history makes clear that there are no patterns to count on,at all!--L.E./12.144.5.2 22:13, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

99L.INVEST
Just off the coast of Africa, but it looks better than anything else so far. NHC's giving it a medium chance for development. Ana? Is that you? We've been waiting. --Patteroast 16:56, 9 August 2009 (UTC)


 * It appears as though the 2009 Atlantic Hurricane Season is finally about to begin. However, seeing as Ana is unlikely to form today, this will be the Atlantic's latest start since 1984 (discounting 1992). And that's assuming this thing develops. It looks good and conditions are apparently favorable. The models aren't unanimous and the ones that do make it a tropical storm weaken it in about 96-108 hours. We'll see. I would say fingers crossed, but I'm very wary of storms that form out there. Cape Verde storms always make me nervous, especially this time of year. -- SkyFury 20:40, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

Tropical Depression Two
NHC says we've got TD2, forecast to become Ana! --Patteroast 12:22, 11 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Hey! There it is! At last, life! Looks like we're gonna have to be patient though, but it's got plenty of time. It doesn't look like much right now but we'll see if it can get any deep convection organized. -- SkyFury 15:53, 11 August 2009 (UTC)


 * EXPECTED TO BECOME A TROPICAL STORM ON WEDNESDAY according to Advisory #4.--L.E./12.144.5.2 03:43, 12 August 2009 (UTC)


 * But Advisory #6 sounds less confident.--L.E./12.144.5.2 16:32, 12 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Advisory #8,"STRUGGLING TO SURVIVE".(Forecast has it peak at 45 Kt).--L.E./12.144.5.2 03:06, 13 August 2009 (UTC)


 * This is unbelieveable. This season just cannot get going. We're already at the latest start since 1984. If we don't get Ana sometime within the next seven days, it will be the latest start in at least 32 years! I'm actually stunned, at this point. Earlier this afternoon, the depression had built up vigorous convection and was on the verge of ending the drought. But in just seven hours, all that convection completely evaporated. I just can't believe it. -- SkyFury 03:37, 13 August 2009 (UTC)


 * 25 years,not 32.In 1984 Arthur got storm status on the 29th.(1967 and 1977 are tied with the 30th...before that there's 1941...before that 1914...and before that there weren't any storms recorded in 1845,but I wouldn't be surprised if some were missed).See Dates of first Atlantic tropical cyclones.--L.E./12.144.5.2 04:04, 13 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Advisory #11 says it's a remnant low.--L.E./12.144.5.2 22:03, 13 August 2009 (UTC)


 * NHC's giving it a medium chance to redevelop. --Patteroast 15:30, 14 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Whoa, high chance now! Looks like TD 2's trying to revive itself. All of a sudden, the Atlantic has gotten interesting. -- SkyFury 00:37, 15 August 2009 (UTC)

Tropical Storm Ana
Hello Ana! Looks like TD2 resumed advisories last night, and has been upgraded! --Patteroast 12:40, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Um... I know its accuracy hasn't been that awesome in the past, but it's kind of worrisome when the first CMC run I look at after the storm gets named has it heading into the gulf and explosively strengthening. Hurricane season has really begun! --Patteroast 12:51, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Ana! Sweetheart, there you are! I've been looking everywhere for you, where the heck have you been! If Ana can just make it through, this patch of dry air and ugly shear environment, she might be able to cause some trouble. -- SkyFury 16:44, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Well, let's hope the current track forecast from NHC is off (as 5-days tracks often are). Because right now, "Mid-late August Tropical depression forms, dissipates, reforms, then head straight toward southern Florida to cross in the Gulf" sounds way too much like a bad remake of a movie I don't want to ever see again.--Guillaume Hébert-Jodoin 17:57, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Well, whether it hits Hispaniola - World-Famous Storm Killer or not, I don't much like the idea of Ana making it to the Gulf of Mexico in one-piece. -- SkyFury 02:22, 16 August 2009 (UTC)

Tropical Depression Ana
Recon flight couldn't find an storm-force winds, and Ana has been downgraded. Forecast only shows a slight strengthening before crashing against Hispaniola... but there's a good chance the next advisory could be the last, unless something changes. --Patteroast 20:50, 16 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Advisory 23 says it's dissipated with no more circulation.--L.E./12.144.5.2 21:33, 17 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Dissipated inland Yucatan. 70.68.3.192 05:02, 22 August 2009 (UTC)

AoI: South of Cape Verde
Latest wave off Africa, NHC's got this at medium chance of development. Surprised it's not already an invest. --Patteroast 02:05, 13 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Well,so far this season,storm prediction's been a bad INVESTment.--L.E./12.144.5.2 03:05, 13 August 2009 (UTC)


 * In the next couple of days, it's gonna hit a wall of about 20-30 kt shear that is just bulldozing through the Atlantic right now. It's already knocked off TD 2 and this disturbance might be next. -- SkyFury 03:44, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

90L.INVEST
Been invest'd, NHC's got it at a high chance of development... maybe this'll be Ana instead? Maybe this and TD2 will both go poof? Who knows. --Patteroast 19:02, 13 August 2009 (UTC)


 * The models really like this one. Only AVNI fails to make it a hurricane and five different models, including SHIPS, take it to at least 90 knots in a week. -- SkyFury 00:39, 15 August 2009 (UTC)


 * HWRF has this as a category 4 hurricane heading into the Bahamas. Sounds like we're going to be seeing Hurricane Bill sooner, rather than later. --Patteroast 12:53, 15 August 2009 (UTC)


 * As for right now, NRL's having a little hiccup and 90L's disappeared... but when you view all the storms for the year, it shows up at 03L.THREE. So...--Patteroast 13:05, 15 August 2009 (UTC)

Tropical Depression Three
And there it is. Forecast to become Bill shortly, a hurricane soon, and will be heading towards major hurricane status at the end of the forecast period. --Patteroast 14:53, 15 August 2009 (UTC)


 * This is the scary one, IMO. The long term environment for TD 3 looks a bit better than it does for Ana. It's storms like TD 3 that tend to make me nervous. I don't like where it's pointed. -- SkyFury 16:52, 15 August 2009 (UTC)

Tropical Storm Bill
Advisory #2 was all it took to get named,and the forecast is steady strengthening up to 90Kt in five days.--L.E./12.144.5.2 21:24, 15 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Advisory #3's accompanying 120-hour forecast is 95KT.--L.E./12.144.5.2 02:57, 16 August 2009 (UTC)


 * As Ana struggles,Bill builds...60 mph winds now,forecast 90KT in 48 hours and 105KT in 96 hours,on track for the Georgia coast.--L.E./12.144.5.2 16:14, 16 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Bill is a very happy tropical storm. It looks scary good right now. I could easily see it approaching hurricane strength by nightfall. L.E., I have a condo on the Georgia coast, please don't say that. The models are starting to show more of a northward curve toward the end of the period as they get a better handle on a forecast break in the subtropical ridge. The official forecast is actually on the southern edge of the guidance envelope. That said, I hope I'm not the only person scared by NHC saying its forecast after 48 hrs could be conservative...a forecast that brings it to 105 knots by the end of the period. HWRF and GFS make Bill a 120 knot Category 4, something I want pointed at open water thank you very much. -- SkyFury 19:05, 16 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Might as well try my hand at a prediction: no East Coast landfall, but it gives Bermuda a Category 4 thrashing a la Fabian. It, however, stops short of Cat. 5 (150 mph) Jake52 20:01, 16 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Forecast now up to 95KT at 48 hours and 105KT at 72 through 120.If it dodges Georgia,fine,just don't bring it up here...we've just had almost the only rain-free weekend of the summer!--L.E./12.144.5.2


 * Well at 105 knots, rain is the least of your problems. -- SkyFury 02:38, 17 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Bill is larger than Ike, moving WSW, and starting to develop an eye. 2007Astro&#39;sHurricane 05:10, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

Hurricane Bill
Hey guys, long time no talk. We now have a hurricane just 3 days after Ana (if I'm not mistaken). Storm&#39;s Eye 09:15, 17 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Ana got TS status only about 48 hours before Bill got hurricane status,I thought?...NHC now forecasts 100KT winds in 36 hours,peaking at 110KT for 72 and 96.--L.E./12.144.5.2 16:59, 17 August 2009 (UTC)


 * The models are going nuts with Bill. HWRF makes Bill a high-end category 4, and GFDL pushes him up to a category 5. Fingers crossed for staying in the water between the US East Coast and Bermuda... --Patteroast 19:34, 17 August 2009 (UTC)


 * The 11PM forecast shows 100KT as reached in 24 hours,with the 110KT peak now straddling 48 and 72 hours before it begins to weaken.--L.E./12.144.5.2 03:06, 18 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Now at 105mph...with the 110KT peak now from 36 to 72 hours but the 120-hour intensity forecast down to 95KT.--L.E/12.144.5.2 15:12, 18 August 2009 (UTC)


 * NHC seems determined to keep Wild Bill below Category 4 strength. I'm not sure that's right. I could easily see a 115 kt peak at this point. Now it may depend a lot on changes to the hurricane's inner core, such as ERCs, but I think the environment is conducive enough to support a low-end Category 4 hurricane. Also, I know an eventual turn away from the coast seems likely right now, but I think New England should really watch this thing and make sure it doesn't try to pull a 1938 because this far in advance it's difficult to say what those troughs are going to do. -- SkyFury 15:37, 18 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Discussion 14 now goes for the 115KT peak from 24 to 48 hours,then 110,then weakening further.--L.E./12.144.5.2 20:59, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

Major Hurricane Bill
Recon found Bill to be a category 3! --Patteroast 00:36, 19 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Bill is now almost a Category 4! I just looked at the satellite and said there is no way this isn't a major hurricane. Then I saw the update. Wow, is Bill an impressive storm! Adjusting the previous forecast of a 20 knot increase in winds for the new intensity, you come up with a peak of 130 knots! It will be a very interesting next twelve hours. -- SkyFury 00:57, 19 August 2009 (UTC)


 * So far the new forecast peaks at 125 knots at 24 and 36 hours.--L.E./12.144.5.2 02:48, 19 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Bumped up to category 4 with the latest advisory. --Patteroast 10:28, 19 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Did not intensify between 5 AM and 11 AM advisories,but expected to do so.--L.E./12.144.5.2 15:18, 19 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Winds have been 135mph all day,with intensification still forecast but the 125-knot peak still 24 hours away.Pressure has dropped below 28 InHg (now 945 mbar).--L.E./12.144.5.2 02:59, 20 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Downgraded back to 3. Which is just as well, what with a forecast track that puts it over or close to two Canadian provincial capital/provincial chief city while still at hurricane strength (Halifax and St John NF)--Guillaume Hébert-Jodoin 15:48, 20 August 2009 (UTC)

Hurricane Bill again
Got downgraded to 2 sometime yesterday. Forecasts haven't changed much except in terms of intensity. Probably a good thing, since it still looks set to make a pass at both Halifax and St John.--Guillaume Hébert-Jodoin 14:40, 22 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Could somebody please tell me why there isn't a hurricane warning out for Nova Scotia? The thing's parked right offshore. They're probably getting gusts to hurricane force along parts of that coastline. -- SkyFury 18:30, 23 August 2009 (UTC)


 * It may be downgraded to TS any time now,even before becoming an ETS.--L.E/12.144.5.2 23:03, 23 August 2009 (UTC)

AoI: Florida Keys
It first, I didn't give this one much thought, but it has lingered for several days and hasn't just not gone away; it's gotten more concentrated and organized. It would not surprise me at all to see it bumped up to medium risk tomorrow. -- SkyFury 02:17, 16 August 2009 (UTC)

91L.Invest

 * High chance. 70.68.3.192 05:53, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Am I really that good? It's now officially invest'd according to NHC's floater page. Watch out! I think this thing has Claudette potential and it's right on our doorstep. Here we are gazing nervously out at some ominous clouds in the distance and then this b/tch pops up on our back porch. -- SkyFury 06:55, 16 August 2009 (UTC)

Tropical Depression 4
...67.172.17.70 10:19, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Sorry, was logged out when I typed this message. T.D. Four per NHC. Jake52 10:21, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Forecast to become Claudette, too. Things sure got really interesting (in the Chinese sense thereof) all of a sudden.--65.94.3.251 14:22, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
 * And that one was *me*--Guillaume Hébert-Jodoin 14:23, 16 August 2009 (UTC)

Tropical Storm Claudette
1215PM Update Statement from the NHC says it's Claudette!--L.E./12.144.5.2 16:38, 16 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Did I nail this one on the head or what! I bet Panama City's gonna have a wonderful evening tonight. What is up with the Atlantic now? After spending the past two and a half months in a coma, the place has gone nuts. I mean, we've gotten three named storms in the past 36 hours. That's ridiculous. -- SkyFury 17:20, 16 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Am I seeing a banding eye forming on radar? My GRLevelX radar program clearly depicts what looks like a banding eye forming. -- SkyFury 20:06, 16 August 2009 (UTC)


 * We have landfall. Claudette just came ashore in the Destin-Miramar Beach area at about 12:05 am CDT according to my observation of the radar. I expect the official announcement will come momentarily. -- SkyFury 05:09, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

Tropical Depression Claudette
The NHC has handed over coverage.--L.E./12.144.5.2 01:35, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Just wanna know...this is out of topic...is the first 90L is somewhat similar to Claudette? Or it was just another thing?????? Storm&#39;s Eye 07:07, 19 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Its off Carolina coast now. 70.68.3.192 16:26, 19 August 2009 (UTC)

92L.INVEST
NRL's got this listed, near the Lesser Antilles right now. Some of the models show it developing as it nears the US East Coast. --Patteroast 13:50, 24 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Now this one is interesting. I like its satellite presentation, especially given that it's under 30 knots of shear but none of the major models do anything with it. NHC says the shear could let up and if that happens I gotta believe that its going to do something. CIMSS' shear tendancy product is not current so I can't speak to that assessment. It's just one of those wait and see kind of things. -- SkyFury 03:00, 25 August 2009 (UTC)


 * CMC's doing its thing, predicing it'll go nuts and bash into the Outer Banks and Delmarva. --Patteroast 04:50, 25 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Yeah, I saw that. Makes it like this monstrous major hurricane that rakes up the east coast, beats the crap out of NYC too. Gotta love CMC. But I really like this thing, if not as much as CMC does. It has maintained a great satellite presentation despite some lingering strong shear. The southeast US should keep an eye on this one. -- SkyFury 15:37, 25 August 2009 (UTC)


 * TWO says a Hurricane Hunter will check it out.--L.E./12.144.5.2 16:09, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

Tropical Storm Danny
Per NHC. Plotted to follow Bill and go after Cape Cod, Canada and Maine, for now. --Guillaume Hébert-Jodoin 15:53, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Sorry I wasn't here earlier, but my god, the AHS is really heatin up now. It looks like Danny will be the first New England hurricane since 1991's Bob, and the basin has gone nuts in the past week, after 2 months being dormant. 76.29.112.198 22:19, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Danny is a weird storm. When it formed, it was quasi-tropical and has a very poor structure to it. I think that shear has been slower to let up than NHC anticipated. However, several major models still think Danny will become a hurricane, with HWRF bringing it up to 75 knots. It is unsettling how the track forecast keeps shifting west. However, if it shifts far enough west, it'll run into North Carolina before it has a chance to strengthen much. That said, I think I'll stay out of that game of Russian roulette (no, nothing to worry about, it'll hit NC and go away...then the chamber lands on the path to New England and you wind up shooting yourself in the head) and say westward expansion is a bad thing. -- SkyFury 23:00, 27 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Yikes, Danny is a really unhealthy looking storm. It hasn't looked fully tropical in quite a while. Starting to doubt it'll even survive till North Carolina. --Patteroast 01:52, 29 August 2009 (UTC)
 * And... it didn't! Extratropical, absorbed by a front. --Patteroast 14:32, 29 August 2009 (UTC)

Tropical Depression Danny
RAPIDLY BECOMING ABSORBED BY EXTRATROPICAL LOW,says the final advisory.--L.E./12.144.5.2 18:02, 29 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Wow... big rain- and gust-maker.... think so... reminding him, just kinda weird... having thunderstorm activity mostly on the east side rather than the whole system. Storm&#39;s Eye 00:30, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

93L.INVEST
Blob just off the Nicaragua/Costa Rica border. NHC's got it at a low chance, and since it's just off the coast I doubt it'll do much as for development... at least in the Atlantic. --Patteroast 04:34, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Aaaand it crossed over into the Pacific, where NHC has it at a low chance of development. --Patteroast 11:15, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Now it's 94E TD13E Jimena. --Patteroast 14:31, 29 August 2009 (UTC)

94L.INVEST
This disturbance has gotten distressing in a hurry. Popped up as a low risk area last night and is now up to medium risk as it has continued to organize. All major models bring it to hurricane strength in not more than 108 hours except for the GFDL. SHIPS brings it to 95 knots by the end of the forecast period. Right now is when disturbances out there scare me the most. There is not much standing in the way of this thing right now. I'm having bad visions of Hurricane Erika (please not "Erika") obliterating something. -- SkyFury 23:16, 27 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Question Sky...
 * does that adage of yours apply to carry-over storms as well? I ask because in just the off-chance that this storm only becomes a depression in September.Jake52 07:09, 28 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Not sure I understand your question. My adage is Beware the First Storm of September. And in the sense of carry-over storms, depressions that form in the last days of August but become storms in September fall under this adage as well. The last week of August/first week of September have historically produced the worst storms. Ike, Ivan, Hugo, Felix, Floyd...all were the first storms of September in their respective years. The list of storms that have formed in that two week period is a veritible Murderer's Row. We'll see. All the major models bring it to 90 knots by the end of the forecast period with the notable exceptions of NOGAPS and HWRF. However, only NOGAPS fails to develop the system. -- SkyFury 15:53, 28 August 2009 (UTC)
 * That's what I was asking (I remember from when Ike was active, and I think you said the same for Felix). If it turns out this way (and it may), I'm not looking forward to Erika, but hopefully it does what a prior Erika did. We shall see, however. Jake52 06:12, 29 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Back down to low risk in this afternoon's TWO.--L.E./12.144.5.2 18:04, 29 August 2009 (UTC)