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[07:27] -->|   YOU (YE) have joined #wiki-hurricanes [07:27] =-=    Topic for #wiki-hurricanes is “Welcome to WPTC | FAC: Carrie 72, 1991 AHS | PR: Debra 78 | FLC: 1600's, Arizona | GTC: 1987 AHS | 7 GANs | look at, update, watch WP:WPTC/NOTICE | Submit stuff @ WP:TFL/S | http://tinyurl.com/anonxd - edit of the week” [07:27] =-=    Topic for #wiki-hurricanes was set by YE!~chatzilla@ip70-189-176-107.lv.lv.cox.net on Thursday, August 11, 2011 11:44:51 AM    [07:32] ===     atomic7732, hurricanehink, and hurricanespin are offline. [07:48] -->|   JasonRees (~chatzilla@cpc3-stev3-0-0-cust140.9-2.cable.virginmedia.com) has joined #wiki-hurricanes [07:49] |<--   juliancolton has left freenode (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) [07:57] Cyclonebiskit  epic discussion for TD 7 [07:58] Cyclonebiskit  http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/text/refresh/MIATCDAT2+shtml/141444.shtml [08:01] -->|   juliancolton (~chatzilla@wikimedia/Juliancolton) has joined #wiki-hurricanes [08:01] =-=    Mode #wiki-hurricanes +v juliancolton by ChanServ [08:17] -->|   Hurricanehink (~chatzilla@c-68-39-173-238.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) has joined #wiki-hurricanes [08:18] YE     Hink! [08:18] =-=    Mode #wiki-hurricanes +v Hurricanehink by ChanServ [08:18] Hurricanehink  YE! [08:19] YE     heh [08:19] Hurricanehink  is playing Sudoku [08:19] YE     is reading Bowser's talk page [08:20] Hurricanehink  Ugh, what a loser (him) [08:20] YE     He does not seem so bad to me    [08:21] Hurricanehink   He's just a troll [08:22] ===    hurricanehink is online. [08:25] |<--   juliancolton has left freenode (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) [08:26] -->|   Celierra (~Celierra@pool-173-77-222-219.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) has joined #wiki-hurricanes [08:26] =-=    Mode #wiki-hurricanes +v Celierra by ChanServ [08:26] -->|   AySz88 (~AySz88@pool-173-77-222-219.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) has joined #wiki-hurricanes [08:26] =-=    Mode #wiki-hurricanes +v AySz88 by ChanServ [08:26] YE     Pick me a fun storm to do    [08:27] Hurricanehink   Lidia 93 [08:28] YE     ehh [08:28] YE     that does not seem fun [08:30] Hurricanehink  Did you finish the last storm I suggested? [08:30] Hurricanehink  Oh, Paul [08:30] Hurricanehink  Is that done? [08:31] YE     yes [08:31] Hurricanehink  k    [08:31] YE      I just need to GAN it    [08:32] Hurricanehink   What about..... Adrian 99> [08:32] Hurricanehink  Ehh, nm    [08:32] Hurricanehink   Christina 96! [08:33] Hurricanehink  Specifically finishing the impact [08:33] Hurricanehink  Or better yet, Calvin 93 [08:33] YE     1993 PHS does not interest me for some reason [08:34] YE     I was looking at something less important [08:34] -->|   juliancolton (~chatzilla@ool-4579f605.dyn.optonline.net) has joined #wiki-hurricanes [08:34] |<--   juliancolton has left freenode (Changing host) [08:34] -->|   juliancolton (~chatzilla@wikimedia/Juliancolton) has joined #wiki-hurricanes [08:34] =-=    Mode #wiki-hurricanes +v juliancolton by ChanServ [08:34] Hurricanehink  Hiya J    [08:34] Hurricanehink   C    [08:34] YE      JC! [08:34] Hurricanehink  Adrian 05 [08:35] Hurricanehink  Specifically the impact [08:35] YE     that might work [08:36] Cyclonebiskit  Hink- fwiw, the NHC has been adding "Low" phases now [08:36] Cyclonebiskit  I'll cut out the Invest part to the tracks now [08:37] YE     http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurricane_Adrian_%282005%29 eh, ok article in itself [08:37] JasonRees      CB if you are updating the AHS trakc map [08:37] Hurricanehink  Yea, but the low portion they have in the TCR isn't the same as the invest portion [08:38] Hurricanehink  YE, it'd be better with a better impact [08:38] Cyclonebiskit  I know [08:38] JasonRees      can you remove the sentence the map does not include TS Franklin and TD 7 [08:38] JasonRees      on the timeline [08:38] Cyclonebiskit  ? [08:38] Cyclonebiskit  why? [08:38] Cyclonebiskit [08:38] |<--   juliancolton has left freenode (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) [08:38] Cyclonebiskit  Hink- the entire track for Emily has "LO" [08:39] Cyclonebiskit  ftp://ftp.nhc.noaa.gov/atcf/btk/bal052011.dat [08:39] Hurricanehink [08:39] JasonRees      CB are you feeling stupid [08:39] Cyclonebiskit  JR- just leave it    [08:39] Cyclonebiskit [08:39] JasonRees      why do you think it should be removed [08:39] Hurricanehink  IDK, I'd prefer if it was just the portion where it was a tropical cyclone and then the in between points [08:40] Cyclonebiskit  they've started adding the precursor low to the track though :F [08:40] Cyclonebiskit  usually denoted by LO    [08:40] Cyclonebiskit   but idk what to do with Emily [08:40] Hurricanehink  But I'd wait for the TCR to see how much they include [08:40] Cyclonebiskit  this is just the preliminary map [08:41] Hurricanehink  It feels really cluttered tho [08:41] Cyclonebiskit  It'll be adjusted when the TCR says to shorten or lengthen it    [08:41] Cyclonebiskit   what feels cluttered? [08:41] Hurricanehink  The map [08:41] Hurricanehink  It looks rather cluttered with all of the points [08:42] Hurricanehink  Including the invests and whatnot [08:42] Hurricanehink  If you wanna keep it for simplicity that's fine though, since you are the mapmaker [08:43] Cyclonebiskit  the season map, yes? [08:44] Hurricanehink  Yea [08:44] Hurricanehink  I don't mind it too much for the individual track maps, I suppose [08:45] Hurricanehink  And BTW, the NHC only included about 12 to 24 hours of the precursor low [08:45] Cyclonebiskit  uploading season map w/o invest portions [08:45] Hurricanehink  (in 2010 TCRs) [08:45] Hurricanehink  Horrah! [08:45] Cyclonebiskit  I cut out all of Emily's precursor [08:46] Hurricanehink  I think Claudette 03 has the longest precursor included in the TCR [08:46] Hurricanehink  Almost two days [08:46] Cyclonebiskit  http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e5/2011_Atlantic_hurricane_season_summary_map.png [08:47] Hurricanehink  So much better! [08:47] -->|   juliancolton (~chatzilla@wikimedia/Juliancolton) has joined #wiki-hurricanes [08:47] =-=    Mode #wiki-hurricanes +v juliancolton by ChanServ [08:47] Hurricanehink  Well done CB    [08:47] Cyclonebiskit   Emily's track is still strange to me    [08:47] Hurricanehink   And JC, your chatzilla is doing the same thing that... another user had happen [08:47] Hurricanehink  -->| juliancolton (~chatzilla@ool-4579f605.dyn.optonline.net) has joined #wiki-hurricanes [08:47] Hurricanehink  |<-- juliancolton has left freenode (Changing host) [08:47] Hurricanehink  -->| juliancolton (~chatzilla@wikimedia/Juliancolton) has joined #wiki-hurricanes [08:48] YE     Tito [08:49] YE     JC is probably not here right now [08:50] JasonRees      Tito aint here at the mo either [08:50] JasonRees      though the CPAC is a basin [08:50] JasonRees      and hink is here [08:50] YE     JR:Don't start [08:51] YE     Can we talk about all the recent epic storms in the ATL and EPAC instead? [08:51] JasonRees      There havent been any [08:51] Cyclonebiskit  epic storms in the ATL? [08:51] Cyclonebiskit  what? [08:51] Cyclonebiskit [08:52] YE     recent as in past several years [08:52] Hurricanehink  Why would you wanna talk about that? [08:53] YE     why not? [08:53] |<--   juliancolton has left freenode (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) [08:53] Cyclonebiskit  nothing else to talk about :F [08:53] Hurricanehink  Let's talk about girls [08:53] Hurricanehink  AKA, Gert [08:53] Cyclonebiskit [08:53] Hurricanehink  Will she or won't she? [08:53] YE     lol [08:53] Cyclonebiskit  weak TS    [08:54] YE      an epic fail [08:54] Hurricanehink  I think the convection is sufficiently organized now for it to be upgraded [08:54] Hurricanehink  I am sorta surprised neither 93L nor 94L formed [08:54] YE     T-numbers suggest otherwise [08:54] Hurricanehink  *92 [08:55] Hurricanehink  YE, the next T-numbers aren't out yet [08:55] JasonRees      Recon out [08:55] YE     I know [08:55] YE     (to Hink) [08:55] Cyclonebiskit  2011AUG14 144500 2.5 1005.7 35.0 2.3 2.1 2.1 NO LIMIT ON OFF -59.26 -42.94 UNIFRM N/A N/A 28.18 63.18 FCST GOES13 35.3 [08:56] Hurricanehink  Wuzzat? [08:56] Cyclonebiskit  T2.5 [08:56] JasonRees      from Sab? [08:56] Cyclonebiskit  CIMSS [08:57] Cyclonebiskit  final of 2.3 [08:57] Cyclonebiskit  this rain needs to stop.... [08:57] YE     that's 33 kt right [08:57] Cyclonebiskit  something like that [08:59] Hurricanehink  CB, you should write another article! [09:00] YE     Do an article you never finished [09:00] Cyclonebiskit  :F [09:00] Cyclonebiskit  that's a rather long list [09:00] YE     just pick one [09:01] Cyclonebiskit  meh [09:02] Hurricanehink  Get one of your failed FAC's up to scraps [09:02] YE     like Monica or Grace [09:02] Cyclonebiskit [09:02] Cyclonebiskit  FAC isn't moving [09:03] YE     does not matter [09:03] JasonRees      Write Rewa [09:03] Hurricanehink  Just improve them so they could pass when you're ready [09:03] Cyclonebiskit [09:04] -->|   atomic7732 (~chatzilla@174-22-208-126.phnx.qwest.net) has joined #wiki-hurricanes [09:04] =-=    Mode #wiki-hurricanes +v atomic7732 by ChanServ [09:06] YE     So anyway, should we allow 3 FAC's at a time [09:06] Hurricanehink  I'd rather not [09:06] Hurricanehink  I mean, I guess by this point it wouldn't be terrible [09:06] Hurricanehink  Since Carrie is close to passing and 1991 should be too [09:07] ===    atomic7732 is online. [09:07] YE     I don't think there is anything wrong with having 3 at a time [09:09] YE     Have we ever had 3 at a time before in project history? [09:09] Hurricanehink  Yea [09:09] Hurricanehink  We got complaints about flooding [09:09] YE     Why would they complain about it    [09:10] YE      and who complained? [09:11] Hurricanehink  They complained that we were straining FAC reviewers [09:11] Hurricanehink  Various FA reviewers [09:11] YE     like Tony? [09:11] Hurricanehink  I forget [09:12] YE     Tony is the type of person that would complain like a baby [09:13] JasonRees      YE you mean like yourself [09:13] YE     anyhow, why don't we get the praise we use to get in 2006 and 2007 [09:13] YE     JR:I am not an FA reviewer [09:14] JasonRees      people move on things die out [09:14] -->|   juliancolton (~chatzilla@wikimedia/Juliancolton) has joined #wiki-hurricanes [09:14] =-=    Mode #wiki-hurricanes +v juliancolton by ChanServ [09:14] Cyclonebiskit  heh, JR, I think you're in the top 1000 editors by # of contributions now [09:14] Hurricanehink  We didn't get that much praise [09:14] YE     they provably got use to hurricane articles [09:15] Hurricanehink [09:15] Cyclonebiskit  you're there too hink [09:15] Hurricanehink  I knew that CB    [09:15] Hurricanehink   Thanks [09:15] Cyclonebiskit  somewhere in the top 850-900 now probs [09:16] YE     Is it just me or was everything working almost perfectly before I joined? [09:16] Cyclonebiskit  nothing ever works perfectly [09:16] Cyclonebiskit [09:17] Hurricanehink  It's a constant evolution [09:17] YE     I said /almost/ [09:17] Hurricanehink  YE, go work on a season article [09:17] YE     I am addressing Jimena's GA review comments [09:17] Hurricanehink  kl    [09:17] JasonRees       CB im just outside [09:17] juliancolton   TD 7 looks good [09:17] JasonRees      1014 Jason Rees 34,270 AP, Rv, Ro    [09:18] Hurricanehink   JC's back! [09:18] Hurricanehink  Yea, I'm thinking Gert by 5 [09:18] Cyclonebiskit  you've gone up by......500 edits since that count [09:18] YE     I am thinking Gert by 11 PT    [09:19] YE      (AM) [09:20] juliancolton   http://www.americanwx.com/bb/uploads/monthly_08_2011/post-32-0-07898300-1313337021.gif [09:21] -->|   Darvince (4367b9fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.67.103.185.253) has joined #wiki-hurricanes [09:21] juliancolton   http://mag.ncep.noaa.gov/GemPakTier/MagGemPakImages/gfs/20110814/06/gfs_atlantic_384_850_temp_mslp_precip.gif [09:21] juliancolton   850 mb 0C line almost to the US    [09:21] Cyclonebiskit   WINTER AHOY [09:21] juliancolton   well, in some ways, [09:21] |<--   Tetracomm has left freenode (Quit: Leaving) [09:22] juliancolton   but in others [09:22] Cyclonebiskit  rain in drought areas [09:22] JasonRees      CB ok you win [09:22] YE     it rained yesterday here [09:22] juliancolton [09:22] juliancolton   52 oz coke + 24 oz coffee = mrah [09:23] juliancolton   not good on my stomach [09:23] Cyclonebiskit [09:23] Cyclonebiskit  you stoopid? [09:23] YE     ...    [09:23] Cyclonebiskit   why would you drink that much?? [09:23] JasonRees      Out of curiosity, when was the last time that happenned? They normally include it all into the TC track, since that whole 9XL file is moved over to the new designation within ATCF; the invest data isn't destroyed all of the sudden. In years prior to 1988, there is a real possibility of the predecessor low not being included within the TC track, which could be rectified when the Atlantic...   [09:23] JasonRees       ...hurricane reanalaysis reaches those years. Carmen of 1974 is a significant example of this occurrence. The L designation is relatively new within HURDAT. Either way, it's all info from NHC, so there are no problems from that standpoint. Thegreatdr (talk) 5:16 pm, Today (UTC+1) [09:24] Cyclonebiskit  http://mag.ncep.noaa.gov/GemPakTier/MagGemPakImages/gfs/20110814/06/gfs_atlantic_276_850_temp_mslp_precip.gif O____O look at Mexico [09:25] JasonRees      juliancolton - youre a wimp [09:25] JasonRees      i cna drink a lot more than that in a day ad not have an effect on my stumoach [09:25] juliancolton   not within an hour though [09:26] JasonRees      No within 1/2 hour [09:26] Cyclonebiskit [09:27] juliancolton [09:27] juliancolton   2.53 oz a minute [09:27] juliancolton   I guess you can do that [09:29] JasonRees [09:29] Cyclonebiskit  lulz [09:31] juliancolton   CB, your roomie just misled me into thinking that girl texted me    [09:31] atomic7732      hasn't that edit of the week been up there for longer than a week? [09:31] YE     yes [09:32] <--|   Darvince has left #wiki-hurricanes [09:32] YE     let's pick a new one [09:32] Cyclonebiskit [09:32] Cyclonebiskit  owned [09:32] Cyclonebiskit  again [09:33] juliancolton   she ended up texting me at like midnight [09:33] Cyclonebiskit  heh [09:33] =-=    YE has changed the topic to “Welcome to WPTC | FAC: Carrie 72, 1991 AHS | PR: Debra 78 | FLC: 1600's, Arizona | GTC: 1987 AHS | 7 GANs | look at, update, watch WP:WPTC/NOTICE | Submit stuff @ WP:TFL/S | http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Bowser423&curid=32428417&diff=444812891&oldid=444809684 - edit of the week” [09:34] Cyclonebiskit  omai, someone's angry [09:35] -->|   Mrcusmax (~chatzilla@wikipedia/Marcusmax) has joined #wiki-hurricanes [09:35] =-=    Mode #wiki-hurricanes +v Mrcusmax by ChanServ [09:35] Cyclonebiskit  whispers to JC, he's an angry elf [09:36] juliancolton [09:36] juliancolton   SAD PANDA [09:36] Cyclonebiskit  Y U MAEK PANDA SAD [09:37] YE     good, I pick a new edit of the week [09:38] YE     *picked [09:38] Mrcusmax       CB...you forgot to sign your comment [09:38] atomic7732     YE - bit.ly    [09:38] Mrcusmax        http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:2011_Atlantic_hurricane_season&diff=444822572&oldid=444821153 [09:38] atomic7732     * http://bit.ly    [09:38] Cyclonebiskit   whoops [09:40] Mrcusmax       How did TD 7 form from a t-wave? I thought it was from a trough split...   [09:40] Cyclonebiskit   where does it say wave? [09:41] Cyclonebiskit  oh    [09:41] Cyclonebiskit   article [09:41] Cyclonebiskit  heh [09:41] Hurricanehink  It's unclear where its origins came from I thought [09:41] Hurricanehink  Someone said partially from Emily [09:41] juliancolton   it's remnant vorticity from Emily [09:41] juliancolton   enhanced by a trough [09:42] YE     it was the wave Atomic first mentioned that everyone thought was not going to form [09:42] YE     What did Mitch say about it, anyone remember? [09:42] Cyclonebiskit  AOI not wave [09:42] atomic7732     what [09:43] atomic7732     I mentioned Franklin's precursor AOI [09:43] Mrcusmax       I know it did not come from Africa... [09:43] Mrcusmax [09:44] atomic7732     i didn't really mention or believe TD 7 was going to form [09:45] atomic7732     from that one AOI [09:45] JasonRees      However, models indicate a La Niña has in fact re-formed, as shown by the active start to the season.[citation needed] [09:46] JasonRees      Thats nto true [09:46] JasonRees      afaik [09:46] juliancolton   that's so made up    [09:46] Mrcusmax        How lead looks like shit [09:46] juliancolton   there's no direct, exclusive correlation between ENSO and number of storms [09:46] Mrcusmax       *Whole [09:47] YE     I hate La Nina [09:47] YE     NV is so dry then [09:47] JasonRees      YE shut up    [09:47] YE      why? [09:47] JasonRees      youre talking bull [09:47] juliancolton   Singing in the Shower [09:47] juliancolton   64,997 people like this. [09:47] juliancolton   Peeing in the Shower [09:47] juliancolton   13,486 people like this. [09:48] juliancolton   Beer in the Shower [09:48] juliancolton   11,069 people like this. [09:48] YE     haha [09:48] juliancolton   lulz @ what ppl on facebook do for fun [09:48] JasonRees      JC yea - though i was on about the La nina reforming [09:48] juliancolton   it's neutral atm [09:48] juliancolton   although it will reform by winter [09:49] JasonRees      Which will lead to another fun spac season [09:49] JasonRees      Across the entire Atlantic Basin for the whole season – June 1 to November 30 – NOAA’s updated seasonal outlook projects, with a 70 percent probability, a total of: 14 to 19 named storms (top winds of 39 mph or higher), including: 7 to 10 hurricanes (top winds of 74 mph or higher), of which: 3 to 5 could be major hurricanes (Category 3, 4 or 5; winds of at least 111 mph) [09:50] juliancolton   14 to 19 is like [09:50] juliancolton   no kidding [09:52] Cyclonebiskit  ncluding: 7 to 10 hurricanes [09:52] =-=    Hurricanehink has changed the topic to “Welcome to WPTC | FAC: Carrie 72, 1991 AHS | PR: Debra 78 | FLC: 1600's, Arizona | GTC: 1987 AHS | 7 GANs | look at, update, watch WP:WPTC/NOTICE | Submit stuff @ WP:TFL/S” [09:52] Cyclonebiskit  including: 7 to 10 hurricanes* [09:52] Cyclonebiskit  that means every storm after Gert has to be a 'cane for the low-end of their forecast to work [09:53] juliancolton   hahaha [09:53] Hurricanehink  Which is doable. 2010 had 11 hurricanes after this point [09:53] juliancolton   Hink, go complain on WT:FAC on behalf of everyone who has an FAC up right now [09:54] Hurricanehink  I'm good thanks [09:54] Hurricanehink  I'm retiring for the day [09:54] juliancolton   10 days with no promotions or archives [09:54] juliancolton [09:54] Hurricanehink  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Verifiability#Policy_question_with_regards_to_hurricane - I'm just happy that people on here sided with me    [09:55] juliancolton    meh [09:55] YE     Speaking of retiring, i might do so in about a year [09:55] juliancolton [09:55] juliancolton   no you won't    [09:56] YE      heh [09:56] Cyclonebiskit [09:57] YE     but ill likely get an FA first before I leave [09:57] juliancolton   YE, can you go fix Karl [09:57] juliancolton   I have half a mind to revert most of your stuff tbh [09:57] juliancolton   err, Darby [09:58] juliancolton   why did I say Karl?! [09:58] YE     idk [09:59] Hurricanehink  Speaking of Karl JC, can I remove that HURDAT info yet? [09:59] Hurricanehink  You're the only one right now who supports keeping it    [10:00] Hurricanehink   The project had a discussion and agreed not to use HURDAT like that, and YE is eternally vascillating [10:00] YE     I am neutral to leaning support on HURDAT [10:00] juliancolton   only if you merge the article and make a nice section in the season article for it    [10:00] atomic7732      502 Bad Gateway [10:01] juliancolton   so we don't have to deal with it later [10:01] atomic7732     Gahhh! Why can't I get the good gateway? [10:01] Hurricanehink  Why do I have to merge it? [10:01] Hurricanehink  You're just trying to get me to merge something before December [10:01] YE     Hink:you love merging [10:01] juliancolton   because it's a piddly article if you remove all the interesting tidbits [10:02] Hurricanehink  I haven't merged a storm article for months [10:02] juliancolton   and I don't want two para's of MH and two lines of impact sitting around as one of my GAs [10:02] Hurricanehink  Ditto with me and Ivan [10:02] juliancolton   is Ivan based on hurdat? [10:02] YE     JC:unblock hink from merging storm articles [10:03] Hurricanehink  Ivan 80 had a large HURDAT section which I removed [10:03] Hurricanehink  You just didn't notice it since it wasn't one of your articles [10:03] juliancolton   you sure? [10:04] juliancolton   (cur | prev) 20:09, 29 May 2011 Hurricanehink (talk | contribs | block) (5,902 bytes) (reword record part) (undo) [10:04] juliancolton   (cur | prev) 13:52, 19 April 2011 JustAGal (talk | contribs | block) (6,303 bytes) (disambig) (undo) [10:04] juliancolton   oh, that's because it wasn't really a "reword"... [10:05] Hurricanehink  Yea [10:05] Hurricanehink  Although, Karl 80 had more HURDAT stuff than Ivan did [10:06] Hurricanehink  I already removed the HURDAT fluff from Kristy 06 as well [10:06] |<--   Celierra has left freenode (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) [10:06] Hurricanehink  So feel free to merge that [10:06] juliancolton   I think I may try to find another place to start writing articles [10:06] |<--   AySz88 has left freenode (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) [10:06] juliancolton   since we can't do anything remotely interesting or unique on wikipedia [10:06] YE     that HURDAT stuff for Krsity if fluff [10:06] Hurricanehink  JC, you could always start doing newsletters and whatnot [10:06] juliancolton   it's so discouraging when everything except for stuff that you can find in a billion books and papers is forbidden [10:07] juliancolton   it's like, what's the point if you can just google it and find it yourself? [10:07] Hurricanehink  But Wikipedia is the summation of the published knowledge on a certain subject [10:07] Hurricanehink  For Katrina, it'd take forever to find all sorts of random information [10:07] Hurricanehink  A google search would be useless [10:07] YE     it is organized, unlike Google [10:08] juliancolton   99% of Katrina-caliber articles are nowhere as good as the Katrina page [10:08] Hurricanehink  Which is why that's where our efforts really should be    [10:08] juliancolton    our Hugo, Gilbert, Andrew articles are far inferior to many NHC summaries and journals [10:08] Hurricanehink  Or even marginal retired storms [10:08] Hurricanehink  What you did for Eloise is far better than any google search [10:08] Hurricanehink  Ditto CB and Fifi, Monica, Waka, Beta, etc [10:09] Hurricanehink  That is where Wikipedia shines. People don't look at the nothing storms in the first place [10:09] Hurricanehink  We're basically creating an article so we can pat ourselves on the back [10:09] Hurricanehink  "Hey look, here's another article I wrote on a storm no one will ever read or care about by looking for it" [10:09] Mrcusmax       lol [10:10] Hurricanehink  Do you disagree JC? [10:10] YE     a.ka. Erick 07 [10:10] juliancolton   Hurricane_Karl_(1980) has been viewed 356 times in 201010. [10:11] Hurricanehink  Exactly YE    [10:11] juliancolton    most of my random-ish articles aren't that random (save Erick). Karl is a supplement article to the 1991 Perfect Storm meteorological chronology, since they're the only two storms that ever really developed that way [10:11] Hurricanehink  Well, you didn't write Karl to begn with [10:11] Hurricanehink  *begin [10:11] Hurricanehink  That was 12G [10:11] juliancolton   I rewrote it from the ground up though...    [10:11] Mrcusmax        Maybe we should work on articles like Andrew as a group....    [10:12] YE      When was the last time I did an article on a non-notable storm? [10:12] juliancolton   356 is 145 more than Keith 88 got last month [10:12] YE     Anything below 100 a month is useless IMO [10:12] Hurricanehink  JC, I'm sorry, I only meant that you also wanted to improve an existing mediocre article, that was it    [10:13] Hurricanehink   And yea, Keith was pretty pointless of me to do    [10:13] YE      Mrcusmax:We tried that for Camile in 2009 [10:13] YE     but it did not work out [10:13] Hurricanehink  I'll bet Karl 80 gets a lot of links from perfect Storm [10:13] juliancolton   I did it because I was studying the Perfect Storm at the time IIRC... [10:13] Hurricanehink  Same reason that Gabrielle 89 got a lot of random views while Ike was active [10:13] Hurricanehink  JC, neat! [10:13] juliancolton   ... [10:14] Hurricanehink  No, that's cool, I had no idea [10:14] Hurricanehink  BTW, any chance you wanna help finish your work on the Perfect Storm? [10:14] Hurricanehink  That would be something that would be very helpful to the project, to Wikipedia in general [10:14] juliancolton   is there really anything we can do that isn't boilerplate rehash of TCR/NHC advisories, followed by three paragraphs of Google News articles? [10:14] juliancolton   or, for retired storms, twelve paragraphs of Google News articles? [10:15] Hurricanehink  The bigger storms have journal articles and a wide variety of other Google hits [10:15] juliancolton   it's all the same though [10:15] juliancolton   this beach was eroded [10:16] juliancolton   this pier was destroyed [10:16] juliancolton   this neighborhood was under 6 feet of water [10:16] juliancolton   and flooding was reported as far inland as Nashville/Dallas/Little Rock/Atlanta/Columbus/Rochester/Toronto [10:16] YE     What we are doing is taking info from Google News and summarizing it and making it easier for others to find it    [10:17] Mrcusmax        wep [10:17] Hurricanehink  True YE, along with a wide variety of other sources [10:17] Mrcusmax       *yep [10:17] Cyclonebiskit  daw, 10 more days [10:17] YE     most of my articles are from Google News [10:18] YE     sources (i.e. Madeline 76) [10:18] Cyclonebiskit  9* [10:19] Hurricanehink  JC, yea, you could say the same about some random war [10:19] Hurricanehink  This group was angry, another group was angry, they fought and people were killed until peace was settled [10:19] Mrcusmax       Or any article covering an event on Wikipedia [10:20] Hurricanehink  Something happened, people reacted to it : [10:20] Mrcusmax       ex. The England riots [10:20] Hurricanehink [10:20] Hurricanehink  You're making it sound like hurricanes are much more boring than they really are [10:20] Hurricanehink  They're a destructive force of nature! [10:20] Cyclonebiskit  so are humans [10:20] YE     they are cool to track [10:20] YE     CB:True [10:21] Hurricanehink  Imagine your house getting destroyed by waves from a storm that formed from a unique set of meteorological conditions