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51st ESCAP/WMO Typhoon Committee (Rumbia and Mangkhut retired by JMA, Ompong, Rosita, and Usman retired by PAGASA)

Hi, it's been a while since I edited here. While the Typhoon Committee won't take place until a month later, this document has stated not only the potential replacements of the 3 retirees of 2017, but it also stated that Mangkhut has been requested for retirement. That's only one requested so far, and there probably will be more names requested as we approach the meeting.  ~ Roy25   Talk | Contributions   19:14, January 26, 2019 (UTC) 

The 51st session of the ESCAP/WMO typhoon committee takes place from February 26 to March 1, and the Atlantic/EPac 41st RA IV Hurricane Committee takes place roughly 3 weeks later from March 18 to 22 in Curacao. Anyhow, the replacement names the JMA suggested for Hato, Kai-Tak, and Tembin (the retired names from 2017) are Kujaku, Koinu, and Otome (for Tembin), Yamaneko, Tokei, and Sankaku (for Hato) and Yun-Yeung, Lu-Feng, and Tai-Gik for Kai-Tak, which were suggested by Hong Kong. If you saw the post I mentioned from Dr. Masters in my updated retirement predictions, Jebi's damage in Japan may have been as high as 13 billion dollars, and if that's confirmed, then it would be Japan's second-costliest typhoon after Mireille of 1991. So Jebi might very well get chopped, as could Yutu. Since Mangkhut was requested to be retired, I've upped him to 100%. Ryan1000 02:10, February 4, 2019 (UTC)
Go ahead and add Rumbia to the list because China composed the request last week.--HurricaneAlpha96 (talk) 15:14, February 26, 2019 (UTC)

How about the Philippines? What names will get axed? Jskylinegtr (talk) 11:31, February 6, 2019 (UTC)

Ompong, Rosita, Usman and possibly Josie will be the PAGASA names to get axed. Jskylinegtr (talk) 02:21, February 8, 2019 (UTC)

It’s official: Ompong, Rosita, and Usman are no more. In tonreplace them are Obet, Rosal, and Umberto. And for Urduja and Vinta last year it’s now Uwan and Verbena.--HurricaneAlpha96 (talk) 04:28, February 24, 2019 (UTC)

Oh and Mangkhut and Rumbia were retired officially by the WMO.--HurricaneAlpha96 (talk) 15:12, February 27, 2019 (UTC)

Any word on Yutu or Jebi potentially getting retired? Or is it just Rumbia and Mangkhut? Ryan1000 00:16, February 28, 2019 (UTC)
Nope, there was only documentation for the requests of Rumbia and Mangkhut hence only those two names got retired at the meeting. All retired names are announced at the same time. Jebi I get not being retired because the Japanese public doesn’t use names but rather numbers so they don’t remember the storm as having the name Jebi. Yutu on the other hand I don’t get at all. Maybe China and the Philippines thought Rumbia and Mangkhut were worse respectively? Of course this isn’t the first time a PAGASA name was retired but. It its international counterpart. See Fengshen 2008 and Megi 2010 among others. But what about Guam? Yutu’s impact there and not being retired because of it is what stuns me. --HurricaneAlpha96 (talk) 15:50, February 28, 2019 (UTC)

I know Japan typically uses numbers for typhoons but they have requested storms for retirement before on the international lists such as 2005's Typhoon Nabi, which was far less destructive than Jebi (or Songda '04) was. As for Yutu, maybe it wasn't retired due to the storm hitting the lesser-populated islands of Saipan and Tinian instead of Guam directly, and it wasn't as destructive as previous typhoons that (almost) directly hit Guam like Pongsona of 2002 or Paka of 1997, or even Pamela of 1976 or Karen of 1962 if you want to go that far back. Also, Yutu wasn't anywhere near as severe for Luzon as Mangkhut was. Ryan1000 03:37, March 2, 2019 (UTC)

Not to say Japan couldn’t have requested it but it’s possible the US or South Korea requested it instead?--HurricaneAlpha96 (talk) 23:41, March 3, 2019 (UTC)

Well-deserved. Though I'm kinda shocked that Yutu did not get the boot, I understand the reasons. Jebi, meanwhile, was destructive, but if Talas 2011 did not get retired despite the severity of the damages and the high death toll, then the non-removal of Jebi from the lists is (somehow) acceptable. I got what I expected from the PAGASA names though; Josie and Karding, despite causing disruptions in the Philippines, were not as severe as their predecessors; even one of those -- Maring/Trami 2013 -- did not get axed. Anonymous 2.0 (talk) 12:36, March 2, 2019 (UTC)

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